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Barack Obama's Egypt Response Slammed In Israel

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AMY TEIBEL   02/ 3/11 08:35 AM ET   AP

JERUSALEM — President Barack Obama's response to the crisis in Egypt is drawing fierce criticism in Israel, where many view the U.S. leader as a political naif whose pressure on a stalwart ally to hand over power is liable to backfire.

Critics – including senior Israeli officials who have shied from saying so publicly – maintain Obama is repeating the same mistakes of predecessors whose calls for human rights and democracy in the Middle East have often backfired by bringing anti-West regimes to power.

Israeli officials, while refraining from open criticism of Obama, have made no secret of their view that shunning Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and pushing for swift elections in Egypt could bring unintended results.

"I don't think the Americans understand yet the disaster they have pushed the Middle East into," said lawmaker Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who until recently was a Cabinet minister and who is a longtime friend of Mubarak.

"If there are elections like the Americans want, I wouldn't be surprised if the Muslim Brotherhood didn't win a majority, it would win half of the seats in parliament," he told Army Radio. "It will be a new Middle East, extremist radical Islam."

Three decades ago, President Jimmy Carter urged another staunch American ally – the shah of Iran – to loosen his grip on power, only to see his autocratic regime replaced by the Islamic Republic. More recently, U.S.-supported elections have strengthened such groups as Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in the Palestinian territories and anti-American radicals in Iran.

"Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as 'the president who lost Iran,'" the analyst Aluf Benn wrote in the daily Haaretz this week. "Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who 'lost' Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America's alliances in the Middle East crumbled," Benn wrote.

Israel has tremendous respect for Mubarak, who carefully honored his country's peace agreement with Israel after taking power nearly 30 years ago.

While relations were often cool, Mubarak maintained a stable situation that has allowed Israel to greatly reduce its military spending and troop presence along the border with Egypt.

He also worked with Israel to contain the Gaza Strip's Hamas government and served as a bridge to the broader Arab world. Israeli leaders have said it is essential that whoever emerges as Egypt's next leader continue to honor the peace agreement.

For more than a week, Egyptians fed up with deepening poverty, corruption and 30 years of Mubarak's autocratic rule have massed across the country to demand his ouster. The backlash has forced Mubarak to announce he won't run in September elections, but that has not appeased protesters, who want him out now.

In the course of the turmoil, the Obama administration has repeatedly recalibrated its posture, initially expressing confidence in Egypt's government, later threatening to withhold U.S. aid, and lastly, pressing Mubarak to loosen his grip on power immediately.

"We want to see free, fair and credible elections," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Wednesday. "The sooner that can happen, the better."

Critics say the U.S. is once again confusing the mechanics of democracy with democracy itself.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed similar sentiments this week when he warned that "if extremist forces are allowed to exploit democratic processes to come to power to advance anti-democratic goals – as has happened in Iran and elsewhere – the outcome will be bad for peace and bad for democracy."

So far, no unified opposition leadership or clear program for change has emerged in Egypt from the anti-government protests, which have been led by secular activists. Historically the leading opposition in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that favors rule by Islamic law and has been repressed by Mubarak throughout his tenure.

Many young people see the former director of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, as Egypt's democratic hope, but critics say he is out of touch with Egypt's problems because he has spent so many years outside of the country.

The calls for democracy inside Egypt have put the U.S. in an awkward position of having to balance its defense for human rights with its longtime ties to an authoritarian regime that has been a crucial Arab ally.

In Israel, critics say the U.S. has suffered a credibility loss by shaking off Mubarak when his regime started crumbling. They say Israel will have to think twice about relying on the U.S. as it is being asked to make what could be risky territorial concessions to the Palestinians as part of a future peace agreement.

"The Israeli concept is that the U.S. rushed to stab Mubarak in the back," said Eytan Gilboa, an expert on the U.S. at Bar-Ilan University.

"As Israel sees it, they could have pressured Mubarak, but not in such an overt way, because the consequence could be a loss of faith in the U.S. by all pro-Western Arab states in the Middle East, and also a loss of faith in Israel," he said.

Raphael Israeli, a professor emeritus of Middle Eastern Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, echoed a widely felt perception that before the unrest erupted, the Obama administration paid only lip service to the lack of human rights in Mubarak's authoritarian regime.

"If Obama were genuinely concerned with what is going on in Egypt, he should have made the same demands two years ago (when he addressed the Muslim world in Cairo) and eight years and 20 years ago. Mubarak didn't come to power yesterday."

"As long as there are no problems, the oppression works," Israeli said. "If the oppression doesn't work, suddenly it becomes urgent. That's unacceptable."

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09:52 PM on 02/26/2011
they only pretend to be devious and racist
FreeAmerican7
It's hard to soar like an Eagle around Turkeys!
01:59 PM on 02/26/2011
President Jimmy Carter will NOT go down in American HISTORY as the president who lost Iran unless such HISTORY is written by Israel and/or its UNDERLINGS in the US especially in the US NEWS MEDIA.
Iran was lost ALREADY the same day the US INSTALLED the Shah of Iran. It just took many decades and it happened when President Jimmy Carter was in office
by coincidence
just like KATRINA Happened when President Bush Jr was in office.
Both Presidents couldn't do a thing to STOP either the Revolution nor KATRINA!

The biggest LIE in the article concerns the State Department:

""We want to see free, fair and credible elections," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Wednesday. "The sooner that can happen, the better."

Is there a PRIZE for LIES? The above LIE will win by leaps and bounds...
USA USA we are #1 in LIES and WMDs!

Last but NOT least; I urge my friends of reading the article again
like the song (Oh Please; Baby one more time)
except this time IMAGINE all the Israelis to be the
MASTERS talking down to the SLAVES
or if you prefer ... you may IMAGINE
an ABUSIVE person (Spouse; Police; parent; BOSS ; etc...)
talking down to someone you admire/like...or to you!
11:44 AM on 02/07/2011
That the Israeli's are critical of Obama for supporting a democratic movement in Egypt really puts the lie to Israel supposedly being an outpost of democratic values in the region. The sooner we ditch Israel and stop supporting its theft and colonisation of the Palestinian's lands the sooner we will be able to extradite ourself from this stupid "War on Terror".

We are wasting too much of our resources playing sherif in the Middle East for Israel's sake. If we continue doing this for much longer I believe that future historians will look back on this period and say that this was the time we lost global leadership and became a second-tier power behind China.

We need to wise up fellow Americans. Boycotting Israel and all of its products is a good start:

http://www.bigcampaign.org/
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Bill Sampson
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03:00 PM on 02/07/2011
Excellent points! F&F
10:22 AM on 02/06/2011
To quote Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge, the Obama administration has been ONE BIG CLUSTER #%/*.
12:06 PM on 02/06/2011
Fanned.
03:13 PM on 02/07/2011
Yeah, the cluster began with the republican party games. If they acted like adults and behaved the way we elected them to behave instead of filibustering everything maybe the progress we have made in this country would be more noticeable. Quit watching fox news.
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11:16 PM on 02/05/2011
The USA has always been schizophrenic with its foreign policy, touting 'democracy', but engendering dictatorships as the latter is a more stable ally. Any Democracy is only an ally for as long as an administration holds power, hypothetically.

But we are in a new world, a shrinking world, which a much faster and global transfer of information. The hypocrisy of saying one thing while doing another, there's no hiding it any longer. And given that reality, The USA's best shot at lasting foreign policy allies - is to support Democracy even at the cost of a possible hostile administration being elected. Because the dictator the USA imposes on another nation becomes a reason to hate America. The elected leader that is unpopular, it's the responsibility of the voting populace that that person was elected, and it's the voting power of the populous than can unelect them! Notice the USA isn't in that equation!

Real Democracy is how the USA can turn around global anti-American sentiment.

The concerns of Israel are legitimate, if Arab countries become democratic, Israel's making victims of the Palestinian people, is no longer something Leaders of Arab countries have the option of dismissing because a peace treaty exists.
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Bill Sampson
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11:35 PM on 02/05/2011
Well put. Fave!
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
11:46 PM on 02/05/2011
Agreed Michael, very well put. Noam Chomsky has recently said much the same thing:
 
http://www.alternet.org/story/149786/chomsky%3A_why_the_mideast_turmoil_is_a_direct_threat_to_the_american_empire
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Aikaterina
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01:07 PM on 02/05/2011
The US lost credibility in the Middle East when we began meddling, influencing and waging wars, or sponsoring false-flag operations for the benefit of corporate (oil) and primarily, Israeli interests.

Our Israeli allies think every American has memory loss, but with our support (overt & indirect):
Israel financed the Muslim Brotherhood, to counter the PLO (from 1967 through 2001).
1967, the attack on the USS Liberty, to thwart warnings of impending strikes against Syria, and to blame Egypt, which would have dragged us into war there.
In 1970, Kissinger & the UK urged King Hussein (Jordan) to allow IDF to take out the hijackers of planes, during "Black September" raids that killed thousands of Palestinian refugees there.
Israel freed Sheikh Yassim, and allowed him to form Hamas & Hezbollah to counter the PLO.
From 1980-1988, Israel (the UK & US) were lavishing aid on Iraq, ostensibly to counter Iran during their 8-year war, yet between '84 & '89, Israel was supplying weapons to Iran (Ben-Mernashe), as was the US (Iran-Contra).
In 1981, the Mossad carried out a series of bombing campaigns in Europe, blamed on A.Q. Khan.
In '91, Hussein asked for and got a green light from US Ambassador Gillespie) to invade Kuwait, then we went to war shortly afterward.
Even during the Iraq war (2005), both the US & Israel were supplying weapons to the Iraqi insurgents, as a justification to keep the war raging.

Makes one wonder about 9/11.
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Bill Sampson
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01:25 PM on 02/05/2011
No need to wonder really! F&F
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jgarbuz
02:59 PM on 02/05/2011
The only reason the US is in the ME is to keep the routes open for cheap oil. It has never been for any other reason. Truman was a decent guy who was the only one to temporarily give a humanitarian cause, like letting Jews have their country back, stand in the way of cheap oil. The Whole State department was against recognizing the Jewish state because of oil fears. However, once the USSR in 1946 had come out for a Jewish state, the US had little choice but to go along, or else lose the Jewish vote in America.  It has NEVER been about love for Jews, or anything of the sort. Once Israel got on its feet, defeated the Arabs a couple of times, even when the Soviets backed them, only then did the US get cozy with Israel. Despite all that has been said, it has never been about sentimentality but only because Israel is a fact, and cannot be ignored.
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Bill Sampson
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11:56 PM on 02/05/2011
Gump, you need some serious help. Please read so of the information we provided you and open your mind to the truth! Your delusional reality is based on farfetched and unrealistic fantasies and is making you a hateful soul (Sole more likely). This is not going to serve you or your ilk in the long run. Remember that things always changes. You can be on top one day, and the next you are at the bottom! Your behavior now will not save you when you fall! Look at the history of your people and learn from it. Most Goyem are decent and forgiving. You might not be welcomed anywhere, but your offspring might!

To quote a famous French poet, Leave us leave us ..... go there ... go there!
05:18 AM on 02/07/2011
Actually, the Brits, the baron de Rothschild, T.E. lawrence, and an Arab prince discussed giving part of Palestine to European Jews in 1912. Lawrence gave the prince false translations. Rothschild agreed to forgive the Brits a chunk of WWI debt. The Yanks and Brits wanted a European colony to keep the M.E. unsettled, It worked TOO well.

Heads up! The ONLY state that owes European Jews anything is Germany/Austria.

Another heads up! Foreign. based on "love of the Jews," or love of the Catholics, or love of any other religion. Period. Foreign aid is also not about sentimentality.

Israel isn't owed anything. She has had more aid and protection than any other state, and all we hear is "we want more."

Enough, already! Get a grip! Stop whinging! You are NOT owed anything.
12:40 PM on 02/05/2011
"Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as 'the president who lost Iran,'" the analyst Aluf Benn wrote in the daily Haaretz this week.
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Since when was Iran "ours" to lose? Oh, and Carter is not remembered this way by any reputable historian.

If only we could "lose" Israel we would not lose how may billions of US taxpayer's dollars?
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Bill Sampson
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01:25 PM on 02/05/2011
True! F&F
01:38 PM on 02/06/2011
Bill, have you checked out this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg or www.veteranstoday.com?

Pretty powerful stuff.
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jgarbuz
02:42 PM on 02/05/2011
If you lose Israel, you lose America. America without Israel is only a Muslim state waiting to happen.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
03:29 PM on 02/05/2011
As Penn (of Penn and Teller fame) would say "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!?" I would be interesting in how you could come to the conclusion that the US will become a Muslim state.
 
You do realize the our Constitution specifically prohibits the establishment of ANY religion, and provides for the FREE exercie thereof?
 
We are (and have been since the adoption of the Constitution and Bill of Rights) a SECULAR nation -- not a Christian one, not a Muslim one, not one which has ANY official religion.
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10:12 AM on 02/06/2011
LOL , your comedy routine is great. Thank you.
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rougebaisers
08:12 AM on 02/05/2011
The US does not exist to battle the entire world for Israel, so they can displace Palestinians. You chose to move back into the neighbourhood, deal with it. One can only wonder what the region would be like were there no Israel supported by the USA?
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Kramerica-Industries
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09:04 AM on 02/05/2011
Probably the most bloody war war stricken part of the world.
As it seems the numbers of Muslims killing other Muslims in that region far exceed the numbers of Muslims killed in wars with Israel. Without Israel they would be more focused on Shias killing Sunni targeting Chrtistians and other minorities.
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Bill Sampson
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11:56 AM on 02/05/2011
It is nice to see how lack of education and deliberate campaign of misinformation and propaganda combine to produce the utter ignorance in your post.

For one to understand how far off from reality you are, one has to simply look at the History of Islam before Colonialism and Zionism. Islam produced one of Humanities most advanced Civilization. Jews Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace and harmony in the Middle East and elsewhere. In Palestine, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc.... Muslims, Jews, Christians, for 1400 years, where neighbors and got along just fine until the creators of Zionism divided their region and instigated hatred to divide them along whatever lines needed to conquer and subjugate them!
12:04 PM on 02/05/2011
Your comment wreaks of ignorance.
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jgarbuz
10:14 AM on 02/05/2011
Israel has not asked the US to "battle the world" and it is the Muslims who blame the US and Britain for Israel's existence But this is nonsense. Israel existed thousands of years before the US ever existed. One might as well wonder what the world would have been life if the US never existed! Israel is a fact, as permanent as the United States. Israel exists because it has as a much right as the US, or Egypt or Jordan or IRaq or Iran to exist.
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Theatrixnyc
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11:56 AM on 02/05/2011
New day, same fictions?
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Bill Sampson
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12:06 PM on 02/05/2011
Benjamin H. Freedman on your false claims:

"But they are pagan Khazars who were converted just the same as the Irish were converted. It is as ridiculous to call them "people of the Holy Land," as it would be to call the 54 million Chinese Moslems "Arabs." Mohammed only died in 620 A.D., and since then 54 million Chinese have accepted Islam as their religious belief. Now imagine, in China, 2,000 miles away from Arabia, from Mecca and Mohammed's birthplace. Imagine if the 54 million Chinese decided to call themselves "Arabs." You would say they were lunatics. Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith a belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia. The same as the Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped them in the ocean and imported to the Holy Land a new crop of inhabitants. They hadn't become a different people. They were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as a religious faith.

... Could there be a bigger lie than that? Because they control the newspapers, the magazines, the radio, the television, the book publishing business, and because they have the ministers in the pulpit and the politicians on the soapboxes talking the same language, it is not too surprising that you believe that lie. You'd believe black is white if you heard it often enough...."
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04:13 AM on 02/05/2011
It never ceases to amaze me how the oppressor always worries about the oppressed being free. If the Israelis had taken advantages of the many opportunities they were offered to make peace with the Palestinians, they would not have to worry now. The Israelis have given the "finger" to our representatives each time we send them over there to encourage a peace deal between them and the Palestinians, and instead they (the Israelis) were obsessed in grabbing more and more of the Palestinians' land. Now feeling a certain unease with the waves of uprising that are surging on the many shores of the ME, they have activated their propaganda machines to full speed and tried to put the blame on the American leaders.
Not too long ago, President Clinton during an interview/speech was warning the Israelis that it was in their best interest to sign a peace treaty with the Palestinians because as he put it was a matter of time before things change whether it be the improvement of in the Palestinian's "rocket throwing system" or the wave of uprising that we are witnessing now (paraphrasing here).

Remember, you can only oppress people for so long, sooner or later, it will come back to haunt you.

Well, maybe it is time for us to return the "finger" to the Israelis.
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jgarbuz
10:19 AM on 02/05/2011
This turns history on its head It is the Arabs who arrogantly refused to accept the Jewish homeland since 1920, and in fact the Arab conqueror Umar, like most conquerors, who did not return the Jewish homeland to Jewish homeland to Jewish rule. By contrast, centuries earlier, Cyrus of Persia did return Judah to Jewish home rule.  The Jewish state has as much right to exist as the Egyptian state, the Iraqi state, the Syrian state, or the American states. But there was never a Palestinian state. It  never existed in all of history, so it those Arabs who call themselves Palestinians who arrogantly refuse to make peace with the historic Jewish state.
12:14 PM on 02/05/2011
q> Jewish homeland since 1920,

Israel did not exist before 1948.
12:17 PM on 02/05/2011
q> The Jewish state has as much right to exist

It doesn't.  Israel is a nation state and it has declared it self a Jewish state (a theocracy). No religion gets to announce it can be a state. Thinking people knowing there are thousands of religions can understand this would cause problems.

Especially when there are people in the world who think like you. 

jgarbuz  (7:39 AM)
 ...Well, If I were in charge,it wouldn't be 1,400 dead
 in Gaza. It would be 1.4 million dead in Gaza.
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Bill Sampson
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12:07 PM on 02/05/2011
Well said! F&F
Dreamaholic
I'm having a micro-meltdown
03:33 AM on 02/05/2011
Peace to you all Goodnight!
Dreamaholic
I'm having a micro-meltdown
03:23 AM on 02/05/2011
skraeling, I just looked it up and here are the facts. Canada ships 707 million barrels of oil. Mexico 400 million barrels, Saudi Arabia 360 million barrels and Venezuala 352 million barrels
Dreamaholic
I'm having a micro-meltdown
03:18 AM on 02/05/2011
OT Has anyone seen "Team America World police"? It's on the comedy channel right now and so funny!
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yadayer
02:33 AM on 02/05/2011
Tired of these Israelis...who the hell do they think they are? Guess the USA should've intervened in favor of the poor Palestinians....
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jgarbuz
02:39 AM on 02/05/2011
Why don't you just take all the poor,oppressed Palestinians into America then, and then Israel will no longer be able to oppress them? America is huge. Plenty of room for them. No room for them in Israel.
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
02:51 AM on 02/05/2011
Actually, we HAVE taken in a good number of Palestinians.
 
But strangely enough, MOST Palestinians want to go to THEIR home -- in Palestine.
 
They have this strange idea that THEY have the SAME right to self-determination (since you like to share Woodrow Wilson's ideas) as the ISRAELIS do.
 
And that right does NOT depend on Israel. Israel may have the POWER (for now) to deny that right, but Israel does NOT have the RIGHT to do so.
10:49 PM on 02/06/2011
Because their country is Palestine.

Israel made the mess. Israel has to clean it up. Canadians don't have to take in Americans. Australians don't have to take in Brits. Spain doesn't have to take in Maxicans.

And, Israel is getting a VERY bad name for genocide.
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02:55 AM on 02/06/2011
yadayer -- Israel is sovereign democracy and a prosperous nation of 7 million citizens; they do not need neither your approval nor care for your opinion.
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06:05 AM on 02/06/2011
then don't INTERFER in US politics and take our Billions $$$$$$$....
or SPY on the US and our technology !
01:24 PM on 02/06/2011
Without US political, military and economic aid, there wouldn't be an Israel today. Perhaps it would be better for Israel and Israeli supporters to show gratitude instead of arrogance. This sense of entitlement will only turn off more people.