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Taxes (As A Percentage Of Economy) Drop To Lowest Level In 60 Years

STEPHEN OHLEMACHER   02/ 7/11 03:39 PM ET   AP

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Senate Budget Committee Chairman Sen. Kent Conrad,

WASHINGTON — Taxes too high?

Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.

Income tax payments this year will be nearly 13 percent lower than they were in 2008, the last full year of the Bush presidency. Corporate taxes will be lower by a third, according to projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

The poor economy is largely to blame, with corporate profits down and unemployment up. But so is a tax code that grows each year with new deductions, credits and exemptions. The result is that families making as much as $50,000 can avoid paying federal income taxes, if they have at least two dependent children. Low-income families can actually make a profit from the income tax, and the wealthy can significantly cut their payments.

"The current state of the tax code is simply indefensible," says Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate Budget Committee. "It is hemorrhaging revenue."

In the next few years, many can expect to pay more in taxes. Some increases were enacted as part of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. And many states have raised taxes because – unlike the federal government – they have to balance their budgets each year. State tax receipts are projected to increase in all but seven states this year, according to the National Council of State Legislatures.

But in the third year of Obama's presidency, federal taxes are at historic lows. Tax receipts dropped sharply in 2009 as the economy sank into recession. They have since stabilized and are expected to grow by 3 percent this year. But federal tax revenues won't rebound to pre-recession levels until next year, according to CBO projections.

In the current budget year, federal tax receipts will be equal to 14.8 percent of the Gross Domestic Product, or GDP, the lowest level since Harry Truman was president. In Bush's last year in office, tax receipts were 17.5 percent of GDP, just below their 40-year average.

The lack of revenue, combined with big increases in spending, means the federal government will have to borrow 40 cents for every dollar it spends this year. The annual federal budget deficit is projected to reach a record $1.5 trillion.

Lawmakers from both political parties vow to tackle the nation's financial problems. Republicans in Congress promise big spending cuts, and Obama says he wants to reshape corporate taxes, closing loopholes to pay for lower overall rates. Few in Washington, however, are calling for big tax increases, at least in the short term.

"America's tax system is clearly broken," Donald Marron, a former economic adviser to Bush, told the Senate Budget Committee at a recent hearing. "It fails at its most basic task, which, lest we forget, is raising enough money to pay for the federal government."

At the request of The Associated Press, The Tax Institute at H&R Block compared 2008 and 2010 tax bills for families at various income levels, showing how their taxes have changed since Obama took office. Taxpayers are filing their 2010 tax returns this spring, while 2008 was the last full year that Bush was president. The scenarios assume that each family had the same income, filing status and number of dependent children in both years.

Income tax rates remain unchanged. But many taxpayers are seeing their bills drop under Obama because of more generous tax credits for college students, working families, homebuyers and the working poor. Many of the changes were enacted as part of the big economic stimulus package passed in 2009.

Congress also extended Bush-era tax cuts through 2012. Lawmakers let Obama's Making Work Pay tax credit expire at the end of 2010, but they replaced it with a one-year cut in Social Security payroll taxes that is already showing up in workers' paychecks.

Some scenarios:

_ A married couple with two young children and a combined income of $25,000 will pay no federal income taxes for 2010. Instead, they'll get a payment of $7,085 – up from $6,700 in 2008. The larger payment comes mainly from a more generous Earned Income Tax Credit, which provides subsidies to the working poor. They will also get a $1,000-per-child tax credit. The example illustrates how complicated tax returns can be, even for low-income families, said Kathy Pickering, executive director of The Tax Institute at H&R Block.

_ A married couple with two children, including one in college, and a combined income of $50,000 would pay no federal income taxes, instead getting a payment of $734 from the government this year. However, they did better in 2008 when they netted a $1,234 payment from the government. That's because Obama's Making Work Pay credit was worth less to them than the Bush-era economic stimulus payment they received in 2008.

_ A single person making $50,000 while paying interest on a student loan would have a 2010 tax bill of $5,325 – a $63 decrease from 2008. The difference is due to an inflation-based increase in the standard deduction and personal exemption.

_ A married couple with two children, including one in college, with some modest investments and a combined income of $200,000 will see their federal income tax bill drop by $780, to $28,496. Their tax bill is lower than in 2008 largely because itemized deductions are no longer limited for high-income families.

_A rich couple with two kids in college, larger investments and a combined income of $1 million will see their taxes drop by $6,740, to $277,699 in 2010. Their tax bill is lower than in 2008 because they were able to defer a larger portion of their income to retirement accounts, and because itemized deductions are no longer limited for high-income families.

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10:11 AM on 02/09/2011
Here is an excerpt from an interesting article from Inc.com

"there is precious little evidence to suggest that our low taxes have done much for entrepreneurs—or even for the economy as a whole. "It's actually quite hard to say how tax policy affects the economy," says Joel Slemrod, a University of Michigan professor who served on the Council of Economic Advisers under Ronald Reagan. Slemrod says there is no statistical evidence to prove that low taxes result in economic prosperity. Some of the most prosperous countries—for instance, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, and, yes, Norway—also have some of the highest taxes. Norway, which in 2009 had the world's highest per-capita income, avoided the brunt of the financial crisis: From 2006 to 2009, its economy grew nearly 3 percent. The American economy grew less than one-tenth of a percent during the same period. Meanwhile, countries with some of the lowest taxes in Europe, like Ireland, Iceland, and Estonia, have suffered profoundly. The first two nearly went bankrupt; Estonia, the darling of antitax groups like the Cato Institute, currently has an unemployment rate of 16 percent. Its economy shrank 14 percent in 2009.

Read the whole article here - http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201/in-norway-start-ups-say-ja-to-socialism.html
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democrats for life
republicans need not apply
11:46 PM on 02/08/2011
i think all republicans should pay a 65 percent flat tax to the goverment, as they are the party that caused this mess
09:34 PM on 02/08/2011
Borrowing Money against our Children & Grandchildrens Future is TREASON Against Democracy !
ScaredAcademic
The GOP: Peddling Hate Since '68
11:05 PM on 02/08/2011
Riddle me this, if they're unborn, where's the GOP to protect them?
08:57 PM on 02/08/2011
The total tax revenue is down because most taxes are a percentage of something (income, sales, property value) and many of those are down. As economic activity increases the tax revenue will increase with it...without any increase in rates. The problem with increasing the rates is that politicians rarely give up the higher rates when things improve...they just spend the additional dollars.
ScaredAcademic
The GOP: Peddling Hate Since '68
10:49 PM on 02/08/2011
We apparently observe very different governments and politicians. The ones that I have observed since the early 1980s have constantly lowered taxes and created loopholes at alarming rates without any offsetting changes in spending. Methinks, under the current fiscal circumstances, that we need an increase in rates and should make some effort to guarantee that the debt-to-GDP returns to sustainable levels. Those excess future revenues are one way of doing that.
12:22 PM on 02/09/2011
Taking CA as an example:

1983-84 - Budget $26.8 billion (Population 26 million) $1,000/person

2006-07 - Budget $131.4 billion (Population 36 million) $3,600/person

The budget has increased 5 fold, the people paying in haven't quite doubled. Inflation has an effect but it is swamped by the increased per capita spending.

Yes, there have been many loopholes and offsets but the net effect has still been an increase far above inflation and population.
06:27 PM on 02/08/2011
So if unemployment is down and the economy is getting better then isn't that proof that lower taxes are BETTER for our economy?
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Knute
07:30 PM on 02/08/2011
Just because the rooster crows and then the Sun rises it doesn't mean the rooster crowing CAUSED the Sun to rise.
09:16 PM on 02/08/2011
And rising co2 levels don't necessarily mean they are causing a rise in surface temperatures. Congratulations you are now a global warming denier.
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Moshe
Shalom to all
06:24 PM on 02/08/2011
Coercing people using threats of pain and fear?

Who do they think they are, the government?
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Charles Hamel
"we gather knowledge faster than we gather wisdom"
04:37 PM on 02/08/2011
So, why is there a party, named after a tax revolt, still upset and belligerent about taxes when their first non-white president actually lowered their tax rate?

Seems like there was plenty to get upset about before Obama took office.
04:45 PM on 02/08/2011
Actually, our taxes went up.

Except according to HP and Mediamatters.
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Charles Hamel
"we gather knowledge faster than we gather wisdom"
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Knute
07:34 PM on 02/08/2011
LOL.

Put your fingers in your ears and sing Mary Had a Little Lamb real loud. Then you won't have to hear ANY facts that are contrary to your beliefs.
05:20 PM on 02/08/2011
This article indicates that the government as a whole took in a smaller percentage of GDP. It's like saying I will cut your salary but the good news is you will pay a bit less in taxes. Not enough to make up thet difference in your salary but less then last year.
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Knute
07:36 PM on 02/08/2011
The article said most, BUT NOT ALL of the decrease in taxes is due to the contraction of the economy caused by the Bush Recession.
03:57 PM on 02/08/2011
What a metric! It’s the fiscal equivalent of saying that obesity is down in Sudan.
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Phaedrusnyc
The unexamined life is not worth living...
04:25 PM on 02/08/2011
We're totally in agreement. There is as little evidence of a major "high tax problem" in the US as there is evidence of an obesity problem in the Sudan. So why does the GOP keep lying about it?
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dawgspiel
Never, never, never give up.
04:37 PM on 02/08/2011
They're caught in a box. All they know is cut taxes, cut spending. Government bad, private industry good.

There are mountains of evidence to prove otherwise. But what do you do when you've hitched your horse to that particular wagon? You have to climb up in the seat and ride it, even when it's heading you off a political, fiscal and economic cliff.
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Charles Hamel
"we gather knowledge faster than we gather wisdom"
04:39 PM on 02/08/2011
Are they lying? Or do they simply not care enough to find out why?
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jstrate
03:44 PM on 02/08/2011
Tax reform is overdue. If the tax code is reformed, predictably, members of Congress will again work with lobbyists to gum it up. I suppose they like to take credit for this or that deduction or credit. Some of these may even be good public policy. More often, I suppose, members of Congress like to show their wealthy campaign contributors that they are not just being shaken down but actually getting something for their money.
ScaredAcademic
The GOP: Peddling Hate Since '68
11:01 PM on 02/08/2011
If one were to tax lobbying, one could at least mitigate this. Never thought about precisely how to do it, but there is bound to be a way.
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03:35 PM on 02/08/2011
“Hmmm so according to GOP and Reaganomic­s we should be swimming in private sector jobs!”
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CharlesCT
03:59 PM on 02/08/2011
Yesssssss. I am waiting. I hope the lines won't be too long.
04:03 PM on 02/08/2011
Except that the ratio is the way it is, because Obama has done such a fine job on the economy.
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dawgspiel
Never, never, never give up.
04:35 PM on 02/08/2011
Corporate profits are at an all time high.
The Dow is at 12,233.15 at this moment
The S&P Index is at 1,324.57
GDP was up 3.2% in the fourth quarter of 2010, the sixth quarter in a row dating back to the second quarter of 2009. Before that, the U.S. economy was in negative numbers for 5 of the 6 previous quarters dating back to QI 2008.
The economy added jobs for 12 consecutive months in 2010, 1.3 million jobs were added to the economy in the last year.

All of these measures are significantly higher than when Obama took office. The truth is that any president of any stripe cannot do all that much to affect the economy. The federal government is only about 20% of the economy.

But if you want to play that game, everything looks a whole lot better than it did in January of 2009. A whole lot better.
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JasonJM
Life isnt fair, get used to it.
02:57 PM on 02/08/2011
Let me sum it up:
Unemployment at near historic levels...Less people pay taxes...Feds get less money.
Fed continue to spend at historic levels...business gets nervous...we lose more jobs.
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NoiseOfKnowing
It's Supply AND Demand, not Supply OR Demand
03:27 PM on 02/08/2011
Now it's because they're nervous. I guess they gave up on the excuse that Obama was saying mean things about them. Also, since when has increased government spending stopped businesses from hiring.
Let me sum it up: outsourcing is the reason for unemployment being at near historic levels
03:35 PM on 02/08/2011
Read the article. We are spending at historically LOW levels!

lff
04:04 PM on 02/08/2011
Which is silly on the face of it.

By what percentage was national debt increased in the last two years?
02:48 PM on 02/08/2011
Is anyone moderating this thread!! Some people here think the top level it is for their silly personal vendettas. Do we really have to wade through all this c*** to find something worthwhile.

MODERATOR PLEASE DO YOUR JOB!

lff
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JasonJM
Life isnt fair, get used to it.
02:55 PM on 02/08/2011
U need some cheese for that whine?
02:55 PM on 02/08/2011
Run along sparky.
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returnofthejedi
Trolls have no chance!
02:38 PM on 02/08/2011
I have no faith in your d@m college. Or your children! Allah is sufficient for me!
02:46 PM on 02/08/2011
alrighty then