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WikiLeaks Bank Of America Documents Could Be A Snore, Founder Suggests


First Posted: 02/09/11 03:12 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

LONDON: The bombshell that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has said could "take down a bank or two" may in fact be something of a dud.

Assange has said privately he does not know if his cache of internal Bank of America (BAC.N) data, whose public release he has suggested might be imminent, contains any big news or scandal, according to three people familiar with the WikiLeaks leader's private discussions about the material.

They said that Assange said it consists of e-mails from the hard-drive of a Bank of America executive's computer and that the latest messages are dated sometime in 2006.

The sources said that Assange privately acknowledged the material was not self-explanatory and that he personally was unable to make much sense of it. Assange indicated it would require a substantial amount of effort by financial experts to determine whether any of the material was newsworthy, according to the sources.

Assange's private characterizations of the Bank of America material as being dated and difficult to interpret contrasts with inflammatory public statements he has made -- some as recently as last month -- touting the significance of bank-related materials WikiLeaks has been planning to publish.

A person who works with Assange did not respond to an emailed request for comment.

In an interview in November with Forbes, Assange said WikiLeaks planned early in 2011 to release "either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it" from a cache of material the website had received from an unnamed American bank. Assange said the material would highlight "some flagrant violations, unethical practices" and added that it could "take down a bank or two."

In the Forbes interview, Assange wouldn't identify which U.S. bank the material came from. In an interview last month with U.S. television program "60 Minutes," Assange again declined to identify which bank his cache of data came from, claiming to the CBS newsmagazine: "There'll be a process of elimination if we denied some and admitted others... I think it's great. We have all these banks squirming, thinking maybe it's them."

But in an interview with Computerworld magazine in October, 2009, he said "We are sitting on 5GB from Bank of America, one of the executive's hard drives."

The contrast between the schadenfreude with which he has talked about the bank documentation in public and the caution with which he has described the material in private may provide fresh ammunition to opponents of Assange, who have accused him of hyping revelations and promoting conspiracy theories for personal and political gain. His critics include former WikiLeaks collaborators, who allege Assange has sought to dominate WikiLeaks by fostering a cult of personality.

Assange and WikiLeaks have become international media phenomena because he has delivered on some of his claims -- particularly through WikiLeaks' acquisition and publication of thousands of classified U.S. government reports about diplomatic machinations and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

WikiLeaks critics have also accused Assange of exaggerating the importance of the leaked official documents, and some internal U.S. government assessments of the impact of WikiLeaks' publication of American government secrets have suggested that long-term damage to U.S. interests and foreign policy are likely to be limited.

Some former WikiLeaks collaborators who split away from the website due to what they regarded as Assange's erratic and imperious behavior said that over the last year, he had lost interest in publishing financial secrets which had flowed into the website and was much more enthusiastic about publishing material which would irritate or damage the U.S. government.

Last month, Assange appeared at a London press conference where Rudolf Elmer, former head of a private Swiss bank's operations in the Cayman Islands, handed over what purported to be two discs containing documentation of alleged offshore tax abuses by wealthy business people. The day after the press conference, Elmer pleaded guilty in a Zurich court to violating Swiss laws on bank secrecy, and was released without a custodial sentence.

Hours after the court hearing, Elmer's house was raided by Swiss authorities and he was taken away and detained.

(Editing by Claudia Parsons and Jim Impoco)

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LONDON: The bombshell that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has said could "take down a bank or two" may in fact be something of a dud. Assange has said privately he does not know if his cache ...
LONDON: The bombshell that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has said could "take down a bank or two" may in fact be something of a dud. Assange has said privately he does not know if his cache ...
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
04:55 PM on 03/14/2011
I understand from listening to author Yves Smith on Sam Seder today, Mar 14, that the leaks would show BofA used an abusive policy called "forced placed insurance".

http://majority.fm/

"Forced placed insurance" is where if the mortgage holder's insurance lapses for whatever reason, the bank will replace it with very expensive insurance. Worst case was a $4000 policy being replaced by a $33,000 policy.

In some cases BofA used captive insurance providers, like Balboa (was CountryWide). Then the mortgage was reinsured back to BofA. So BofA is buying an inflated insurance policy from themselves with an additional profit for the insurance provider, as well.

Escrow abuse = stealing

Yves Smith says that so far, she does not see any solid evidence of abuse in the emails that were released.

WikiLeaks promises to release more on this.
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
03:42 PM on 03/14/2011
"U.S. government assessments of the impact of WikiLeaks' publication of American government secrets have suggested that long-term damage to U.S. interests and foreign policy are likely to be limited."

Oh, but keep on punishing Bradley Manning anyway.
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
03:39 PM on 03/14/2011
"His critics include former WikiLeaks collaborators, who allege Assange has sought to dominate WikiLeaks by fostering a cult of personality."

His critics that were former WikiLeaks collaborators were fired. Maybe it's sour grapes.
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
03:36 PM on 03/14/2011
"We have all these banks squirming, thinking maybe it's them."

I love it.
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cats530
16 Trillion To Banksters Per GAO Audit
06:48 PM on 02/27/2011
Documents Could Be A Snore? "News Story" could be a BofA PR campaign.
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aceempress
08:05 AM on 02/26/2011
I almost spilled coffee all over my self when I read that Bush canceled an appearance in Denver because Assange was also invited. He "didn't want to share a forum with someone who willfully and repeatedly did great harm to the interests of the US." Apparently outing CIA agents and torturing people is okay.
02:08 PM on 03/02/2011
this is not a bluff, lookup the recent HBGary incident, there is information bofa doesn't want the public to see
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
05:01 PM on 03/14/2011
"Assange was also invited." ???

I find it unbelievable that Bush believed that Julian Assange would appear in Denver.
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Bill Bushing
Liberal but open to ideas that make sense (leaves
10:58 AM on 02/23/2011
You mean I may not have to close my BofA account after all?
04:43 PM on 02/14/2011
I am announcing a lawsuit against Bank of Destroying America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoOJMr7OJ0s&feature=player_embedded

My name is John Wright AND I AM FIGHTING BACK!
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ElBruce
06:38 PM on 02/11/2011
Given that BoA has been outed as having a PR attack strategy, I have no way of knowing that this article isn't a part of that strategy.
02:51 PM on 02/18/2011
Given AOL has bought out HP ....
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stonesoup
04:15 PM on 02/11/2011
How do we know that this story is even true after yesterdays admission by BOA that they have hired companies to launch a diversion, or sleaze campaign against Wikileaks. I wish Huffpost would do more investigating into the stories they print. This is a problem.
Don't trust this story for a second.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
05:04 PM on 03/14/2011
Learn to think for yourself.
02:01 PM on 02/11/2011
Sorry don't buy for a second!!! He has very damageing evidence againist BoA.
Now he's using it as leverage. Good for him.
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llen
12:36 PM on 02/11/2011
How interesting to todays issues could some 2006 emails be, how relevant.......might just be boring disorganized information.
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
05:05 PM on 03/14/2011
Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on crimes like these?
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Dale Ruff
08:35 PM on 02/10/2011
One of the ways to diminish the disinfectant power of revealing secrets, whether govt or corporate, is to declare them "boring." When people think something is boring, they will not be eager to read it (why? it's boring) and they will dismiss the revelations as unimportant. This propaganda tactic is akin to political manipulations which alienate potential activists and voters by creating apathy.
This is done by defusing important information (which would fuel activism) as boring or unimportant or by claiming that all politicians are alike and that therefore there is nothing to be done.

Explosive revelations and issues are minimized and marginalized by calling them boring and/or unimportant. This is a critical tactic of modern propaganda, which benefits by keeping secrets hidden and when exposed, dismissing them as not worth anyone's attention.

The other common tactic is the kind of character assassination being practiced on Assange.
He is a pervert, power-mad, anti-American, etc. Kill the messenger or kill the message.

JFK said it best, as shortly before his assassination, he was considering dismantling the CIA (hmmmm):" Secrecy is inimical to democracy and liberty." Then they killed him, keeping the facts secret. Oh, I forgot, it was lone gunman.
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PiperSniper
09:54 AM on 02/10/2011
It seems that the only 'profound' information surrounding WL is their leader's upcoming court date and that ... yawn ... sorry where was I?