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Obama Budget Proposal Gets In Line Behind Last Year's


First Posted: 02/14/11 06:19 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- When President Obama's 2012 budget arrived on Capitol Hill on Monday, it had to contend for space on the desktop with a document that's still floating around: the 2011 budget.

Obama last signed a budget into law in spring of 2009, just months after taking office, making it tough for a 2012 budget to gain traction while Congress is still divided over last year's. Since the fiscal year 2010 package expired, the two chambers have been unable to agree on a new spending plan. Instead, Congress has passed a series of what are known as CRs -- continuing resolutions -- which authorize enough money to keep the government running at its current levels for anywhere from a few days to a few months.

The current CR expires in just a few weeks. If nothing takes its place, the government shuts down. That makes Obama's budget released today little more than a symbolic distraction. "They'll be damn lucky just to get a CR right now for the rest of this year. The far right is going to have to make real compromises to get anything through the Senate and signed into law, and they aren't showing any signs of being willing to work with their own leadership, much less across the aisle," said a former House Democratic staffer on the Appropriations Committee, who has seen his share of spending bills dissolve into CRs.

But forget the rank-and-file: Even GOP leadership is slamming Obama's budget, packed full of cuts to popular social programs, as insufficiently frugal.

"The White House still isn't listening to the American people -- they've said, loud and clear, that they want us to end the Washington spending spree," a House GOP leadership aide told HuffPost. "The President's budget just locks it in place. If they don't get serious, it's tough to see how we make progress to get our economy moving and creating jobs again."

If the budget is useless as a practical matter, it does have political import, signaling to the country what the Democratic Party's priorities are (or are not).

Republicans are particularly troubled that the budget doesn't propose to cut Social Security, with the leadership aide saying that Obama "totally punted on entitlement reform. Is the new White House plan just to agree with Sen. Reid's 'remain calm, all is well' strategy until the system collapses?"

If the president's budget doesn't get implemented, the government will end up running on a CR for roughly three straight years, a policy outcome few find optimal. But the closer politicians get to the 2012 elections, the less interest there is in governing.

"I find it hard to believe that they're actually going to be able to come up with a budget resolution that will pass both the House and Senate," said federal budget-watcher Stan Collender, a partner in the Washington, D.C. office of Qorvis Communications.

The House Republican leadership might conceivably be willing to find some common ground with the White House, but they've got the Tea Party to contend with, he said.

"Unlike Gingrich in '95 and '96," Collender said, referring to then-House majority leader Newt Gingrich, "these guys don't have the permission to compromise." The Tea Party "defines compromise as collaborating with the enemy.

"So I think there's going to be a shutdown," he said.

The current continuing resolution extends through March 4 at midnight. If there isn't new funding legislation passed by both houses and signed by the president before then, the government won't be able to spend money, and its nonessential parts will closed for business.

All that leaves Obama's fiscal 2012 budget proposal looking relevant "only in the macro sense," Collender said. The five-year freeze on domestic discretionary spending, for instance, certainly establishes a ceiling for funding.

But beyond that, he said, "this is a year when the individual proposals just won't be important."

If Obama's budget proposal dies a quiet death, it'll have few mourners. It has so far been savaged by liberals for slashing social programs and conservatives for raising taxes and not cutting enough.

"Despite his promises to make the U.S. a more attractive place to business in and do business from, President Obama is proposing $129 billion in tax increases on American firms doing business abroad. Not only will these tax hikes make U.S. businesses less competitive, but they would threaten jobs back home as well," complained Scott Hodge, president of the conservative Tax Foundation.

John Irons, research and policy director for the liberal-leaning Economic Policy Institute, had the opposite reaction. "The president's top economic priority should be job creation, but the proposed budget does too little and turns too quickly toward deficit reduction," he said. "The economic context -- unemployment at or above 9 percent for 21 months, unemployment that is expected to remain elevated for years -- demands a stronger response."

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WASHINGTON -- When President Obama's 2012 budget arrived on Capitol Hill on Monday, it had to contend for space on the desktop with a document that's still floating around: the 2011 budget. Obama las...
WASHINGTON -- When President Obama's 2012 budget arrived on Capitol Hill on Monday, it had to contend for space on the desktop with a document that's still floating around: the 2011 budget. Obama las...
 
 
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dgoose50
Proud Socialist
12:19 PM on 02/15/2011
I believe that we are in for 10 more years of stagnation and inflation due to the shipwreck of the Bush Administration. Obama talks a good game but really nothing has changed and POTUS just wants the keep the country fom self imploding.The right wing just wants to turn the country into another Mexico with NO middle class.No one has any clue about how to get the country moving.Meanwhile the FED keeps pumping out money to the wealthy who can not be trusted to invest in this country.Americans are powerless to change anything because we really have no say in our government.What follows? I don't know.
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rambisfan
01:15 PM on 02/15/2011
sub primes
11:12 AM on 02/15/2011
The 'cuts' in Obama's budget are not cuts but simply freezes on current spending. However, they are using the spending levels in the American Recovery Act as the benchmark level. Wasn't that supposed to be a one time deal?
His budget asserts GDP growth and a reduction in unemployment that the CBO and OMB think is a fairy tale, assumes $380 billion from 'bi-partisan transportation revenue sources' meaning a new gas tax. Each year this stingy budget will increase the deficit by $1.7 trillion until in 2021, the national debt will equal 77% of all GDP. He asks for 5,500 new IRS agents and altogether triples the size of the federal government in five years. That's some budget cut.
DOA in Congress.
02:15 PM on 02/15/2011
Sorry, but your facts are wrong. The deficit now is projected to be $1.6 trillion. That is well over 9% of GDP. Obama's budget is projected to cut the annual deficit to about 7% of GDP in 2012 and to about 3% of GDP by the middle of the decade. Three percent of GDP is considered to be a sustainable deficit level by most economists. This budget assumes 2.7% annual growth in GDP in the next two years (more conservative than previous forecasts) and unemployment remaining around 9%. Today's New York Times has a good chart of the projected deficits and amounts of debt.

I have no idea what basis you have for the statement that the budget "triples" the size of government in five years. Is this measured by personnel or something else? As the U.S. winds down Iraq and Afganistan (hopefully), government military personnel should decrease, if that is how you are measuring "size of government."
07:09 PM on 02/15/2011
No, my facts aren't wrong. My deficit numbers are right from OMB and CBO both agencies provided executive summaries. The graphs supplied show the deficit increasing at about a 45 degree angle up and up and up. Obama's budget is rampant spending supposedly covered by made up projections (not 2.7%, 3.8% as opposed to the 3.4% by the agencies) and assertions ($300 billion in new transportation revenue that is unexplained) that have no basis in reality. There certainly is no shortage of analysyes of the budget. Try Real Clear Politics for a mixed bag. Don't get swallowed up in the ranting about freezing old people in their homes and killing education.
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Nomccain
10:39 AM on 02/15/2011
If the Republicans had ever been serious about cutting the deficit significantly, then they'd have never pushed for more tax breaks for the top 2% of the most wealthy Americans. These tax breaks under Bush/Cheney did absolutely nothing to create new jobs and contributed to the deficit as well. So, for Republicans, it made sense to do it again and Obama caved in to the "hostage situation" regarding a continuation of unemployment benefits. BTW, I'd love to know how increasing taxes on those who located outside the U.S. hurts American jobs at home. It might create more jobs for the "paper pushers" of thos corporations and the CEO's but does nothing to create manufacturing jobs for American workers. More Republican lies.
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
10:34 AM on 02/15/2011
Somewhere in there, it became ATM.gov.
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Realbluesky
09:52 AM on 02/15/2011
There will be no government shutdown. Obama has made it clear how he feels about negotiations; if the people of America are being held hostage by the republicans, then obama will give them (the repubs) anything they want, because "if there's a chance the hostage could get hurt", he won't stand up. I voted for a man I trusted would be a leader. Obie fails on so many counts it is just amazing. How could anyone who holds the title of President of the United States behave so weakly, so milquetoasty, so dishonorably? I was hoping for a man who would stand up for the values of progressives rather than an appeaser of the repubs.
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DrMandible
No one on the corner has a swagger like us.
10:00 AM on 02/15/2011
A single senator could still cause a government shut down though.
11:28 AM on 02/15/2011
Be that as it may, the republicans have basically castrated him and turned him into a lame duck president. As if cutting money from social programs will save nearly enough money to continue funding 2 wars.
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Lost Rights
2008 Dem Convention Denver, Expect this in 2012
09:08 AM on 02/15/2011
Obama is such a wuss at negotiation. The GOP makes him give an opening offer trying to appease them. Wisely they reject his offer and say they want more.
Now he is stuck. He can only give them more, they win. He seems to have no sense of his own worth.

If Obama would make his offers completely contrary to what the GOP wanted, they would have the hill to climb.
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Oska Wright
08:50 AM on 02/15/2011
What a hard thankless job. President of the United States, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. One thing people should come to grips with is that the rich in this country has and always forever receive hugh tax benefits. It didn't start with this President and it surely want end with this President.

Obama put in place the 2nd installment of TARP to help failing businesses etc etc. The debt that President Bush and his administration put on us was massive and we're starting to see the effects of it.

We don't balance the budget then what do you say about the Prez then? He defaults on making tough decision then what do you say about the Prez then. He can't win and won't win and that the nature of the job. I don't agree with a lot in his budget. It affects quite a few in my family but Bush broke American's back and Obama now has the thankless job of cleaning up and he's the most hated Prez?? Please......

All Presidential hopeful Dem and Repub. All Senate and House Dem are secretly saying thank you Mr. President for taking all the heat and doning the things I wouldn't or don't have the courage to do. All of them know hard decisions has to be made and I can't seem to find any Dem trying to back the President. Well McCain probably will be a better choice or Palin, Romey, Huckberry, Newt Paul. Whatever.
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Lost Rights
2008 Dem Convention Denver, Expect this in 2012
09:10 AM on 02/15/2011
The problem is he gives in without even trying to stand up for anything, except tax cut extensions which primarily benefit the richest.
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dollbaby
Spice...."The Toughest Fighter."
09:19 AM on 02/15/2011
I don't think he gave in......did you read the GOP budget?
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dollbaby
Spice...."The Toughest Fighter."
09:20 AM on 02/15/2011
fanned and faved. thank you for a great and realtiy based post
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Oska Wright
11:05 AM on 02/15/2011
Thanks dbaby>
08:37 AM on 02/15/2011
1. Remove the earnings cap on social security.
2. Increase the social security benefit age to 68.
3. Drop the corporate income tax rate to 15% to draw foreign investment dollars.
4. Cancel the Afghanistan war immediately.
5. Give foreign countries the option - support us (trade, etc.) or lose all foreign aid.
6. Institute a 25% excise tax on Chinese-made goods.
7. Term-limit all Congresscritters and tell them to do their jobs now!
10:05 AM on 02/15/2011
Absolutely agree! How did this wuss ever get into office?? He is living by the "dreams of his father" who was a Kenyan tribesman-no wonder he is bringing us down further than we already were. He is a total changeling. A really mixed up personality.
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batmancw
Turn fear against those who prey on the fearful
10:21 AM on 02/15/2011
Your proposals are too smart to ever be adopted by those in DC
05:22 AM on 02/15/2011
I've had enough of this president, whom I was so foolish to support early on.
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Oska Wright
08:55 AM on 02/15/2011
That's surely you right but tell me what other person you believe would have done better? We are seeing the affects of what the good and highlife turn out to be. Under Bush we were living better but a hugh lie. We were spending like crazy without any cares now we see the results of that. Obama may not be the Prez for you and that's cool but who would have done better?
10:17 AM on 02/15/2011
Though I voted for Obama in the primary campaign, I now believe that Hillary Clinton would have made the better president, Oska. During the primary, she showed remarkable grit and determination. The more the odds stacked against her, the greater the effort she made to fight for her cause. Contrast that with Obama who, during his first two years in office, proved he was quick to compromise his values and, in some cases, even surrender them.

Some say Obama had no choice, that he was forced to cave to obstructionist tactics. They argue that the president was hamstrung by lock-step Republican solidarity in the Senate. I disagree. I think Obama could have used the power of his office--the bully pulpit--to appeal directly to the people, as Harry Truman did in 1948 when he railed against the “do-nothing” Congress. Time and again, he forewent the opportunity to argue that the assertions of Republicans regarding proposed legislation like health care and climate change were disingenuous. He had the facts. He had the moral argument. He had the requisite oratorical skill. He simply lacked the spine.
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SeenItBefore
Ya want to super size that?
08:56 AM on 02/15/2011
Sadly, I too, came to this same conclusion after he kept Summers and hired Geithner.

We were had and the gittin' had just gets better.

I think he's a dempublicrat.
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dashcat
My micro-bio is empty
02:54 AM on 02/15/2011
This president has brought me nothing but despair.
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Oska Wright
08:58 AM on 02/15/2011
Not really what he brought us is the reality of what Prez Bush has done to this country and the mess he created. Now he has to do the best job possible to clean it up and its' hard. You may not like him and may not vote for him next cycle and I can understand that but who would you vote for. We can't just sit on the sideline and complain and poke our lips outs.
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dashcat
My micro-bio is empty
02:42 PM on 02/15/2011
That is exactly what we can do. I can't vote for Obama again. He is in the process of dismantaling SS. He's is cutting programs for poor people. He refuses to get us out of Afghanistan. He is more Republican than Dem. I don't vote for Republicans. I won't cast a ballot for President if my only choices are Republicans.

I won't be voting for DiFi again either. I will vote for Nancy.


I think a lot of liberal dems and independents won't vote for obama.
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NJProgressiveIndie
Never Surrender...
02:05 AM on 02/15/2011
"The White House still isn't listening to the American people -- they've said, loud and clear, that they want us to end the Washington spending spree," a House GOP leadership aide told HuffPost."
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And Republicans still aren't listening to the American people--WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!
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SeenItBefore
Ya want to super size that?
08:56 AM on 02/15/2011
Can anyone spell Egypt?
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whirlybird
Time's a-wastin'!
10:10 AM on 02/15/2011
The only people concerned primarily about the deficit are those who most readily believe ANYTHING the Republican leaders say. And they aren't a majority. Yet another lie from the Republicans in power.
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thatlittlevoice
09:39 PM on 02/14/2011
I'm getting sick and tired of the media and the Republican Party making sweeping statements like "Obama isn't listening to the will of the people." Less than HALF of the population voted in the last election and the Republicans did not win the Senate. How convenient of you to claim that you are speaking for what amounts to less than 35% of the American people...some MANDATE! Guess what, Republican Leadership? I am a hard working American and I haven't forgotten that it was YOUR party sucking up to your rich corporate friends that nearly destroyed the economy of this country. If you think that the HUGE budget deficit that you all ran up under George W.'s leadership is something that we're all just going to forget about, you're even more arrogant and ignorant than most of us think you are. You can live in your fantasy world as long as you want, but the fact remains that it took a DEMOCRATIC President to create a SURPLUS and it's going to take our popularly elected DEMOCRATIC President a little longer than two years to clean up the mess you made. Why don't you stop whining and roll up your sleeves to help? As near as I can tell you are all a waste of space in Washington And an expensive, selfish waste of space at that.
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scionfox
WINNING
09:44 PM on 02/14/2011
F&F
12:40 AM on 02/15/2011
That was beautiful. Keep up the good work.
09:29 PM on 02/14/2011
Funny the GOP saying Dems and the white house is not listening to what the American people want. GOP is not listening to what the Defense Dept. wants. Sec. Gates is asking them not to fund an airplane engine that they do not want. $300 mil. It's out of Obama's budget. GOP is still not willing to cut it. AMAZING.
12:43 AM on 02/15/2011
I would like to know more about that project do you have any links?
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la fourchette
There is no reason not to follow your heart
06:10 AM on 02/15/2011
big claim. have you a little link to support it?
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Lost Rights
2008 Dem Convention Denver, Expect this in 2012
09:17 AM on 02/15/2011
Joint Strike Force Fighter is one that comes to my mind! Another is the already rejected super APC, cant remember the name.
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whirlybird
Time's a-wastin'!
10:13 AM on 02/15/2011
I heard it is produced in Boehner's home state. No real info to back this up, but who has time to research every diabolical thing those people do?
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Ale
Unorthodox Progressive
09:13 PM on 02/14/2011
The GOP is indeed correct that Obama is not listening to the people.
The people, when the budget is actually explained to them all pretty much agree.
Increase taxes on the ultra wealthy and cut military spending, end foreign wars that sap our treasury and help the middle class.
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dashcat
My micro-bio is empty
02:49 AM on 02/15/2011
That is exactly what I've been saying. None of my elected officials are listening to me.
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Oska Wright
09:02 AM on 02/15/2011
Dash I agree with you on that. Your own elected official is more at fault and than the President directly. What are they doing?
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stunsitfel
Liberale sind verlorene Schafe
08:57 PM on 02/14/2011
EVERYTHING cut 20%!!! No favorites.
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08:59 PM on 02/14/2011
Riiiiiight!1 Give the rich tax cuts and then penalize everyone else while returning them to their old levels.
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stunsitfel
Liberale sind verlorene Schafe
09:07 PM on 02/14/2011
Everyone bites the bullet.
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Oska Wright
09:03 AM on 02/15/2011
Scoop that's been going on for years and years.
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scionfox
WINNING
09:37 PM on 02/14/2011
They should hire independent auditors and citizens to identify wasteful spending. Independent auditors that have no attachment that can immediately recognize pork and citizens that know that a tissue paper does not cost $1500.00 and an ordinary hammer $5000.00. Yes, it will take a long time, but it will get the job done.
05:33 AM on 02/15/2011
So true. There's a middle-man in health care, education and defense spending that ups the cost more than 100%.