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Bernie Madoff: Banks "Had To Know" Of Fraud

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First Posted: 02/15/11 11:15 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

More than two years have passed since Bernard Madoff was arrested for a massive Ponzi scheme which spanned 16 years and consumed roughly $20 billion in lost cash and nearly $65 billion in paper wealth, and the search for who was complicit is still heating up.

Now, in his first interview for publication since his arrest in December 2008, Madoff asserts that some of the financial institutions he dealt with most frequently "had to know." From the New York Times interview, conducted as part of research for a forthcoming book on the Madoff scandal, "The Wizard of Lies: Bernie Madoff and the Death of Trust":

He spoke with great intensity and fluency about his dealings with various banks and hedge funds, pointing to their "willful blindness" and their failure to examine discrepancies between his regulatory filings and other information available to them.

"They had to know," Mr. Madoff said. "But the attitude was sort of, 'If you're doing something wrong, we don't want to know.' "

(It's well worth reading the entire NYT piece here.)

Previously, Madoff claimed that he essentially worked alone. He still maintains that his family was innocent. The only people formally charged in connection with the scheme are Madoff's former auditor and seven members of his staff.

Madoff did not name names or specific institutions, but Irving Picard, the court-appointed trustee charged with recovering assets for Madoff's swindled victims is focusing in on JPMorgan, which served for decades as Madoff's primary banker.

On February 3, Picard accused JP Morgan of having significant doubts about Madoff but silently acquiescing in his fraud. JP Morgan shot back, demanding a jury trial. Reuters reports:

The second-largest U.S. bank said court-appointed trustee Irving Picard is exceeding his power by suing in bankruptcy court, where a judge rather than a jury would decide the case.

"The trustee's massive damages action against JPMorgan bears no resemblance to a typical lawsuit commenced by a bankruptcy trustee," JPMorgan's lawyers said in a court filing late Tuesday.

"In substance," the bank said, "the trustee is trying to pursue an enormous back-door class action."

JP Morgan is in the midst of preparing for an aggressive expansion in consumer and private banking over the next five years. All financial entities facing civil lawsuits by Madoff victims deny any complicity in the fraud.

In a column last week, Frank Rich pondered whether Picard might be the great recession's Ferdinand Pecora -- who in 1933 lead a "no-holds-barred dispensation of blame to tycoons who looted the Wall Street casino and then let ordinary Americans pay the consequences." Rich writes:

The prime mover in connecting Madoff's low-tech, relatively low-yield scam to the big Wall Street picture is Irving H. Picard, the bankruptcy trustee pursuing loss claims for Madoff's victims. Most Americans haven't heard of Picard. But each day that he accelerates his pursuit of Madoff's collaborators, he steps further into the vacuum of leadership left by others, including the Obama administration's Department of Justice.

Rich's conclusion is grim. "Determined as Picard, our accidental Pecora, may be, the fact remains that the time couldn't be riper for the next Madoff, whether in a strip mall or in the elite gambling dens of Wall Street, to get in the game."

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More than two years have passed since Bernard Madoff was arrested for a massive Ponzi scheme which spanned 16 years and consumed roughly $20 billion in lost cash and nearly $65 billion in paper wealth...
More than two years have passed since Bernard Madoff was arrested for a massive Ponzi scheme which spanned 16 years and consumed roughly $20 billion in lost cash and nearly $65 billion in paper wealth...
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09:59 AM on 02/18/2011
What about the SEC, the regulatory AUTHORITY?! Markopolos had been banging on their doors since 2000 trying to alert them of Madoff's scheme and they did nothing!
04:16 AM on 02/18/2011
The article says Madoof said some of the financial institutions he dealt with most frequently "had to know." True. He could have said too that most of his employees he dealt with most frequently "had to know." It also was probably true that some of the early heavy investors knew of the Ponzi scheme. And no one but Madoof is in jail. The guy ran a Ponzi scheme for at least 20 years. He at one time was the chief officer of NASDAQ. Incredible. Just incredible.
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SeenItBefore
Ya want to super size that?
11:09 PM on 02/17/2011
As a final comment, a friend, an ex trader at Lehmann Brothers, told me he and everyone else in the business knew about Madoff and his scheme. He said they all played and like musical chairs, hoped they wouldn't be the guy without a seat when the music stopped.
08:55 PM on 02/17/2011
JP Morgan wants a jury trial? Really?

Oh please give me a shot at deciding how much they're gonna pay.
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MerrieWay
03:23 AM on 02/20/2011
You're on! Thank you for volunteering! Hope you are good at math.
04:47 PM on 02/17/2011
When I plugged Madoff's comments into my Madoff-to-street translator, this is all that came up:

"It's hot in this grease."
04:22 PM on 02/17/2011
I sure wish this guy would get beat up in prision again.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
04:45 AM on 02/18/2011
I understand he is very friendly with the inmates...he gives them stock tips and advice on their tax return....you see Bernie is the "good ol boy" which is why in private life everybody gave him so much rope..like you I would like to see him hang with that same rope...F&F
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stpetejohnny
02:02 PM on 02/17/2011
We already made a major blunder by bailing out Investment Banks and certain large banks.
I use to think if we were no longer a Republic at least we were still Capitalist....I guess not....
I am sure people at banks like JPMorganChase knew about his actions....
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Jordan Ward
01:49 PM on 02/17/2011
He wants us to believe the financial institutions knew and his own inner circle of family and friends didn't!
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Balzac
12:49 PM on 02/17/2011
Interesting argument. Maybe he should be released for a day to have a debate with Jamie Dimon. (kidding... sort of...)
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10:55 AM on 02/17/2011
Not only did they know, it wasn't their biggest scam. That would be the Foreclosure Industry.
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masquedbunny
09:43 AM on 02/17/2011
He seems to be under the mistaken impression that their being willfully blind to his crimes somehow makes him less guilty--when, in fact, they're all guilty, and they should all be in jail for life. And that's being kind.
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freethinkergirl
Help, there's an elephant in our bedrooms...
01:18 PM on 02/17/2011
F&F
 
Maybe it's time to do what Iceland is doing....
 
Voters there have rejected any further bank bailouts, and the new government in Iceland has arrested prominent bankers and put them on trial for fraud and corruption.
 
 Ireland’s voters seem to be heading down this path as well, there have been demonstrations in the UK, France, Greece and elsewhere in Europe by workers unwilling to accept austerity programs imposed on them by governments that have directed billions of dollars of bailouts to the banks.
 
 
http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/egyptians-revolt-rubins-folly-and-labor-arbitrage
09:32 AM on 02/17/2011
SEC heads knew but chose to ignore their underlings.
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RubalKhali
Philosophy is the stray camel of the faithful
08:41 AM on 02/17/2011
Mr. Rich says that this was relatively low-yield scam of only 85 billion, perhaps he could point to a high yield scam.
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
08:37 AM on 02/17/2011
My Take: Bankers are an easy target these days so Madoff's latest pyramid scheme is to implicate the bankers. It's got crowd-appeal, it's got zip, it's the in thing! That Madoff, he sure is a sly one!