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Obama Veto Threat Of GOP Spending Bill Ratchets Up Talk Of Government Shutdown

First Posted: 02/15/11 07:56 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

Obama Veto

With Reporting By Zach Carter And Elise Foley

WASHINGTON -- Just hours after President Barack Obama insisted, in a rare news conference, that "there should be no reason at all for a government shut down" over budgetary debates, his office issued a veto threat to a Republican spending bill that ratcheted up talk of forthcoming government paralysis.

In a statement of administration policy released Tuesday night, the Office of Management and Budget formally announced the president's threat to veto a continuing resolution bill introduced by House Republicans to keep the government funded past March 4. The line in the sand hardly sent shock waves through Congress. Obama's opposition to the measure seemed almost pre-ordained, owing to the bill's sharp spending cuts on issues that Democrats hold dear: the Peace Corps, Pell Grants, and labor programs among others.

What the OMB statement did do, however, was up the stakes in what is setting up to be a contentious, high-stakes period before the government runs out of money in a matter of weeks. One top Republican aide, echoing the sentiment of colleagues on the Hill, called the veto threat "pure brinksmanship."

In terms of political theater, however, Monday's OMB statement was far from the first or the last act. For weeks, Republicans and Democrats have engaged in a fantastical effort to pre-cast blame for possibly shutting down of government operations. The back-and-forth cumulated with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA.) insisting that talk of stopping government operations was not the GOP's "intentions" and Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho), head of the Appropriations subcommittee on Interior and the Environment, proclaiming that "leadership does not want a government shutdown."

As of Tuesday, however, those statements weren't declarative enough to satisfy Democrats. House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer said on Tuesday that if the government were to run out of funds it would be the GOP's fault. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), one of the loudest prognosticators of a coming shut down, followed with bravado.

"I don't think a single Democrat is even entertaining the notion of trying to cause a shut down," the New York Democrat told the Huffington Post. "There are many Republicans who have already said they want a shut down and their leadership, even when asked repeatedly has not taken it off the table. So we are trying to get them to take it off the table."

What role the administration's veto threat will play in this, predominantly, congressional drama remains to be determined. Democratic officials stressed that the OMB statement was a mundane if not uneventful maneuver. The bill that House Republicans had constructed, which would slash spending $60 billion from current spending levels, will almost assuredly change before making it to the president's desk, with a Democratic controlled Senate having earlier sign off. Even then, the president and his staff had been deliberately vague about what, exactly, was the source of their objections in the CR.

"Basically, we think this bill will change and we didn't think it was necessary to include specifics for what would specifically trigger a veto," said a Democratic source familiar with the administration's thinking.

Underscoring that point, as the administration formally released the president's veto threat, lawmakers started the lengthy process of considering more than 400 amendments to the CR. In a rare show of unified action, the Congressional Progressive Caucus took to the floor to ostensibly filibuster the bill by using an obscure House rule known as "striking the last word," which allows members to speak, one after another, for up to five minutes about a single amendment. Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) read from a recent New York Time's oped by Paul Krugman titled "Eat the Future." Others turned their attention to a proposal by Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) to cut $18 million from the defense budget, which Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.) called "a start."

"You might take it forward and say, 'Let's end the war in Afghanistan where we're spending $120 billion,'" added the California Democrat.

Republicans were left with few other options other than showing their disdain for the theatrics and plotting next step forwards. Cantor's top spokesman, Brad Dayspring, accused the White House and congressional Democrats of having a "visceral reaction," to GOP efforts to "save taxpayers' money."

On more of a tactical level, talk turned to how to handle a potential shutdown, and whether the Republican Party would be able to maneuver through that scenario better than the last time: the funding showdowns during the Billl Clinton's first term in office.

"That was handled badly," said Terry Holt, a longtime GOP hand and a former top aide to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). "I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But we are talking about a very different set of players this time around and I think a very different attitude towards government spending and the budget deficit. There is a lot more that is different about what is happening today than is similar to what happened back in the early 90s."

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With Reporting By Zach Carter And Elise Foley WASHINGTON -- Just hours after President Barack Obama insisted, in a rare news conference, that "there should be no reason at all for a government shut d...
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PharmaCan 12:31 AM on 02/16/2011
WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

The democrat party really needs to start taking control of the message that is coming out of Washington. For too long the republicans have had control of that message, and they have morphed reality to take all the blame for their policy failures and shift it to the democrats.

With every piece of legislation that the republican congress proposes, democrats should be  Read More...
08:26 AM on 02/20/2011
On the other hand, cutbacks in the federal budget will put more strain on charities, churches, philantrophists, foundations, and endowments to pick up the slack caused by government funding cutbacks. Arts and other organizations will increasingly turn to the private sector to seek more funding, and private sector hospitals, doctors, and medical clinics will increasingly be pressured to provide more uncompensated charity care. Those who seek medical care or hospitalization, but have either no (or minimal coverage) health insurance will file for bankruptcy to get out of paying these bills, and the hospitals/doctors will take tax write-offs for these unpaid bills, again costing the government. Corporations making donations to charities, foundations, philantrophy, and endowments will take tax write-offs for them as well, again costing the government. Budget cutting, no matter how deep, can be a double-edged sword. One end is doing the budget cutting, while the other end is cutting the government's throat by way of tax write-offs by hospitals, doctors, medical clinics, and corporations and individuals making charitable donations. And churches, charities and philantrophy will be expected to pick up the slack caused by the losses or cutbacks in government funding. But I do admit that budget cutting is necessary to reduce the deficit.
09:29 PM on 02/19/2011
I do have a feeling that if a government shutdown does occur, it will probably last no more than two weeks maximum, because congressmen and senators will receive many, many angry calls and letters from their constituents about matters ranging from not receiving their Social Security retirement and disability checks, their VA disability checks, their tax refunds, to doctors and private-sector hospitals receiving delays in Medicare and Medicaid payments, to federal employees either being furloughed, or if they continue to work in "essential" positions (such as homeland/airport security, law enforcement, or at VA or military hospitals), that their paychecks would be delayed, or if they buy supplies or gasoline on government credit cards, that the cards would be declined if they attempt to use them. The complaints would get louder and harder the longer a shutdown occurs, especially if it is over a month. Congressmen and senators, judging from the sheer number of complaints, would be under tremendous pressure to approve a budget, or else all hell would break loose. Come election day, the voters would likely vote them down if their concerns aren't met, ignored, or brushed off.
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
12:50 PM on 02/19/2011
Obama's not going to veto. He's going to sell us out again... and again and again. He's a puppet of the oligarchy and the national security state.
01:08 PM on 02/19/2011
He ain't no Mitt Romney.
12:24 PM on 02/18/2011
To the GOP/Tea Party Republicans I say... BRING IT ON!!

Remember what happened in 1994 when Gingrich thought he was doing the work of the people? I for one hope to hell these corporate thugs go thsi route... talk about handing the government back to the adults in the room for at least the next 12 years!
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
12:51 PM on 02/19/2011
I don't think Boehner is all that smart to figure that out.
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09:31 PM on 02/17/2011
I say let it shut down, they can't do anymore damage then...
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
12:52 PM on 02/19/2011
...then the national security state has done to our honor.
07:29 AM on 02/17/2011
The goal here is to make sure that Obama fails and the way to achieve that failure is to shutdown the Government. Republicans don't care... they control 90% of the media and they can tell the American people anything they want and the American people believes the Republicans more than they believe the President or the Democrats anyway. This is a no win for the President and the Democrats. Either the President caves as usual, or they will shutdown the Government - and then tell the American People, it's Obama's fault that workers are not paid, that Seniors did not receive then SS or retirement checks, etc... This is the game being played by the Republicans and it's a shame - Selah...
01:10 PM on 02/19/2011
Looks like its a game being played by both aides.
05:29 AM on 02/17/2011
Did the real Obama stand up so he can threaten to shut down the Government? Why is the real Obama being beaten by a ghost candidate? When it comes to straight talk, side by side with Chris Christie, will Obama opt out and avoid a second mediocre term? Slam dunk and lol.
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
12:55 PM on 02/19/2011
Obama will wow everybody with his disingenuous oratory and they'll flock to him like new converts running to the fried chicken at a church picnic.
03:14 AM on 02/17/2011
What the GOP seems to forget is that the present generation of Americans has been investing their hard earned payroll taxes other than income taxes into social security and medicare benefits many for almost a lifetime. Many of these Americans are independent contractors and small business partnerships that pay more in social security and medicare taxes than the wealthy pay on their capital gains that are not subject to those taxes.
Before even suggesting that social security and medicare should be cut, the GOP and the Tea Party should focus on cutting government welfare for the rich and corporate elite in the form of tax breaks and subsidies that total more than a half-trillion dollars a year. The resulting savings should be used to make social security and medicare solvent and to correct the grave injustice of taxing income average families need for a basic decent standard of living.
Want to fight crime? Where is the GOP proposal to impose severe criminal penalties on those who defraud taxpayer funded programs?
Want to create meaningful jobs? Where is the GOP proposal to employ auditors to expose all of this waste and fraud on an ongoing basis?
Want smaller government, then where is the GOP proposal to free American families who already bear the regressive brunt of sales tax, property tax, and social security and medicare taxes who make less than $100,000 per year from income tax so they can afford to make social security and medicare solvent?
12:52 AM on 02/17/2011
i think he should do some vetoing .
it will help to counter the republican filibusters from 99.99% of his legislation since 2009.
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msgirlintn
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12:47 AM on 02/17/2011
Thank you President Obama for letting the tea bagger Repubs in the House know that they don't run this country and you aren't playing to their base like they are.
 
Most older and uninformed people vote Republican.  Let the tea bagger Republicans explain to the elderly and the disabled why they aren't getting their SS checks and can't use their Medicare.
 
All of the tea baggers want to shut the government down so badly, let them explain to the people in their districts why they aren't getting their income tax refund.
 
The last time the Repubs shut down the government with a Dem in the WH, it didn't work out so well for them.  But then, they are tea bagger Repubs, so they don't learn from their mistakes very well.
07:47 AM on 02/17/2011
Excellent, what a good girl.
11:19 PM on 02/17/2011
LOL, nice to see the Democrat talking points posted.

BTW, it is the Democrats that are pushing to shut the government down, and lie that it is Republicans.
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msgirlintn
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11:24 PM on 02/17/2011
Photofarm,
 
Nobody gives me talking points.  I'm smart enough to listen and make my own observations.
 
Please provide me with one credible link that shows a Democrat threatening to shut down the government.  Just one.  You can't do it because there isn't a Democrat doing it.  Now look up how many tea bagger Repubs that want to do it.  You do know how to do research don't you?
10:49 PM on 02/16/2011
Nothing would make the taxpayers of this country HAPPIER if Gov was to shut down
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msgirlintn
Magnolia's mom!
12:29 AM on 02/17/2011
1donewrong,
 
WRONG!  Let the tea bagger Republicans explain to the elderly and disabled why they didn't get their SS checks and can't use their medicare. 
 
The older voters and the misinformed voters are the base for the tea bagger Repubs.  They wouldn't appreciate not getting their checks or being able to use their Medicare.
 
It didn't work well for the Repubs in the 90's and it won't work well for the tea bagger Repubs in '11.
12:31 AM on 02/17/2011
this is 2011 and the voters by a 705 majority want spending cut and the deficit reduced. As For SS and Medicare al gore placed them in a lock box so have no fear
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John Shuck
They are lying to you about who wrote Shakespeare.
10:37 AM on 02/17/2011
For about five minutes. Hope the oil companies start drilling in your back yard first.
09:19 PM on 02/17/2011
let them I can use the $$
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
10:40 PM on 02/16/2011
in retrospect, we should have let the banks collapse. 2 years down the road, if we were all going to be f*kked anyways, at least we would have gotten satisfaction that the perps that got us there were undone as well.
07:49 AM on 02/17/2011
Very true!
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GuangxiDad
A 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 pound coconut!
09:43 PM on 02/16/2011
I say if Obama vetos because he can't stomach a 1.5% cut in his proposed budget (60billion that the Republicans want to cut.. divided by the President's 3.7trillion budget), then Republicans should let it shut down. The country will blame Obama and Dems in congress.
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
10:47 PM on 02/16/2011
oh i dont think he would mind a 60 billion dollar cut-- lets take it out of defense or tax breaks to companies.
11:31 PM on 02/17/2011
Oh no he wants the deficits to be so large that he can mount his socialist take over just like germany in the 30's
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msgirlintn
Magnolia's mom!
12:43 AM on 02/17/2011
GuangxiDad,
 
It isn't the 60 billion that Obama objects to.  It's where the tea bagger Repubs want to cut it from.
 
Obama and the Dems just spent 2 yrs. trying to keep us out of another Great Depression courtesy of Bush and the Repubs, and he is saying that he isn't going to let the tea bagger Repubs put us back into that Depression state.
 
If the government shuts down, the blame will be on the tea bagger Repubs.  They are on record for being for it.  Let them explain it to the elderly and disabled why they can't get their SS checks or use their Medicare.  Didn't work out so well for the Repubs the last time they tried t.
11:34 PM on 02/17/2011
he added $10 Trillion in new debt, more debt that all the previous president before him combined. And the result hmmm 20% unemployment and a creditor calling the shots in this country.
Remember that Dem's controlled the senate for 6 of the past 10 years and the house for the past 4. The terrible economy is of their doing so why don't they stand up and take credit?/
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09:33 PM on 02/16/2011
might as well shut them down to jostle everybody out of their trance
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
10:48 PM on 02/16/2011
when the ss and medicare payments stop coming, theres gonna be h311 to pay in baggerville.
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msgirlintn
Magnolia's mom!
12:49 AM on 02/17/2011
moose,
 
Amen to that!  Statements like the one you were replying to from the tea bagger Republicans show just how little they know about government.
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
08:18 PM on 02/16/2011
Face it, the US government is on its last legs, Republican Christians want a bloody theocracy,and the rest of us dont.
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GuangxiDad
A 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 pound coconut!
09:44 PM on 02/16/2011
blather
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luvobama
Hospice volunteer...
12:32 AM on 02/17/2011
No.  You are just not smart enough to recognize truth when you see it.
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satanlite
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09:52 PM on 02/16/2011
There's more truth to that than the baggers and conservatives and varoious wingnut breeds will admit.