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Will UW-Madison Become Independent?

First Posted: 02/17/11 08:28 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:35 PM ET

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MILWAUKEE (AP) -- University of Wisconsin leaders have asked Gov. Scott Walker not to spin off the flagship UW-Madison campus from the rest of the system, saying the rumored move would create unnecessary competition that would hurt all the Wisconsin colleges.

Three UW leaders wrote to Walker on Tuesday saying it had come to their attention that Walker might propose removing the Madison university from the larger system as part of his budget proposal next week.

"We want to express strong concerns about this significant restructuring, especially without broad consultation and careful deliberation," the letter said.

The letter was signed by two Board of Regents executives, President Charles Pruitt and Vice President Mike Spector, and UW System President Kevin Reilly. A copy was obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press. UW spokesman David Giroux said system officials learned the proposal was in the works by "gathering enough intelligence" to understand that a separation was being considered.

Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie told AP he could not confirm any budget proposals.

"Lots of the details of the UW System including funding and flexibility will be released in the governor's budget, which will be introduced (next) Tuesday," he said.

UW-Madison Chancellor Biddy Martin declined to say whether she thought a spin-off was a good idea, but said it never was her school's goal to be pulled out of the system.

If removed, UW-Madison likely would be run by a separate board whose members could be handpicked by Walker, which could give the Republican governor more control over how the university is run.

Walker has been aggressive in his first six weeks in office. Thousands of people have come to the Capitol this week to protest a bill that would strip most public employees of their collective bargaining rights. He signed a bill earlier this month that gives Wisconsin companies a nominal tax break for every new job they add. He signed two other tax cut bills in January, one that wipes out corporate and personal income taxes for companies that relocate to Wisconsin and another that eliminated state income taxes on contributions to health savings accounts.

The idea of modifying the UW System isn't new.

UW schools have spent years trying to persuade the Legislature to grant them more autonomy and flexibility in spending decisions. Officials complain that state funds are earmarked for such specific purposes they're handcuffed when it comes to budgeting. They also say they're constrained by regulations written to apply to all state agencies, even though universities have unique needs that include attracting professors, acquiring research equipment and funding the construction of academic buildings.

Previous requests didn't go far in the Legislature, in part because lawmakers wanted to maintain oversight of an institution that currently receives $1.1 billion in taxpayer funding.

With Wisconsin now controlled by a Republican governor, Senate and Assembly, the idea of running the state's largest university more like a profit center could take off. It also could be a first step toward turning the school into a political pawn should subsequent administrations see things differently.

Martin had packaged UW-Madison's own requests for flexibility into a program called the New Badger Partnership. She said any gains in autonomy by her university could bode well for the other schools.

"If Madison were to be given something different I would expect that we would be a test case," she said, "and that our ability to deal with greater flexibility would help gain flexibility for all the campuses in the system."

System officials, however, worry that separating UW-Madison from the rest of the pack would increase academic competition within the state instead of allowing the Wisconsin schools to compete as a team against top universities in other states.

"We want to put all the UW campuses on a level playing field, competing for students, for grant money, for professors and researchers," Giroux said. "We want to compete with California, Minnesota and New York, but as a group."

The University of Wisconsin system has 13 four-year universities and 13 two-year universities, along with a stateside UW Extension program. About 23 percent of the system's nearly 182,000 students are at UW-Madison.

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MILWAUKEE (AP) -- University of Wisconsin leaders have asked Gov. Scott Walker not to spin off the flagship UW-Madison campus from the rest of the system, saying the rumored move would create unnecess...
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- University of Wisconsin leaders have asked Gov. Scott Walker not to spin off the flagship UW-Madison campus from the rest of the system, saying the rumored move would create unnecess...
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linksteroh
Believing in yourself is an endless desitination.
06:26 PM on 02/19/2011
What Walker wants to do may end up destroying this state, I can't imagine why he was elected he doesn't even have a college degree!
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Rynchostylus
07:19 PM on 02/17/2011
UW-Mad has so many lucrative patents, they'd probably do just fine if turned independent.
01:51 PM on 02/17/2011
If removed, UW-Madison likely would be run by a separate board whose members could be handpicked by Walker, which could give the Republican governor more control over how the university is run.

Power Grab!
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
12:52 PM on 02/17/2011
In and of itself it saves no money, creates no jobs, and does not improve education.

So its not big deal if your goals were to create jobs.

He uses the same business promotion that the south has used for 50 years to seduce jobs from the north, but pls note after 50 years of no unions,low wages, low taxes and tax incentives they remain the poorest states.. with the Blue states subsidizing them for the past 50 years. Of course as industry in the blue states is outsourced or even moved to the south... the ability of the Blue states to fund the red states with welfare is fast disappearing. Their excess dollars over what they pay in, is our federal debt And we cant afford to keep the 2 largest red welfare prorgams at such levels ...the defense industry and paying farmers not to grow at a time when we nnolonger even feed ourselves..

Regards
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morefromLA
A fighting liberal and proud of it
06:44 PM on 02/17/2011
Thank you. Well said. Fanned and faved.
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mickeyspumoni
Recall Walker!
12:17 AM on 02/18/2011
He promised 250,000 jobs in 4 years. So far everything he's done has cost jobs. I hope the voter apathy of 2010 never repeats itself. PEOPLE - GET OUT AND VOTE!
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JoeLib
Snarky is a lifestyle choice
10:22 AM on 02/18/2011
Voter apathy was part of the issue, but Walker never ran on any of the issues he's pushing through the statehouse now. Nobody heard Scotty talk about union busting and removing the flagship campus from the UW system. Voter ignorance of who Scott Walker is and how he likes to "govern" played a huge part in his victory.

According to exit polls, approximately 34% of union households voted for Walker and the WI GOP.

I wonder if they'll make that mistake again.

People in Milwaukee County are not surprised by these developments. Walker ran the county into the ground as Executive, and how he's continuing his record of ill-considered, expensive job-crushing decisions as Governor.

Walker isn't so much of a Tea Bagger as he is a total D - Bagger.
11:43 AM on 02/17/2011
As the mom of a Madison Sophomore, I can't help but wonder what's going to happen to our tuition payments the next 2 years. Yikes!
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wilandon
11:58 AM on 02/17/2011
We probably won't be able to make them. I just cannot believe this "person".
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mratcheson
02:49 AM on 02/18/2011
Good luck from a neighbor in Illinois. It's really tough.

(And please vote your heart and your mind in 2012!)
11:42 AM on 02/17/2011
What's sad is there is not one mention of the governor trying to break all public unions in WI. Hey HuffPo, I thought you were a progressive website???
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SirenForSanity
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02:28 PM on 02/17/2011
See the main page.
11:14 AM on 02/17/2011
UW Madison was the only college that rejected me back when I was applying. I was a life-long Wisconsin resident, first in my class, straight A's, lots of extracurriculars. Never did figure it out. Went to Yale instead.
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joadar
11:13 AM on 02/17/2011
Good idea. Let's take the most successful school with the best reputation and take it out of the system. *note sarcasm*
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Bill Bushing
Liberal but open to ideas that make sense (leaves
02:41 PM on 02/17/2011
Of course... makes "perfect sense... NOT" But could it be because of its liberal reputation. NO, not a chance! Ha.
11:01 AM on 02/17/2011
The next step is to muzzle professors that they don't like. There is a growing right wing attack on academia because they teach facts, science, and reason instead of ideology.
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wilandon
11:59 AM on 02/17/2011
Our Governor, Scott Walker, didn't go to college. Stellar person to have in charge, huh?
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mickeyspumoni
Recall Walker!
12:13 AM on 02/18/2011
He went to Marquette university, where he was a C student, and dropped out after two years. Now he's going to drive the state of Wisconsin right into the crapper. It was his density!
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mratcheson
02:51 AM on 02/18/2011
It's worrisome. UW Madison has always been one of the beacons.
10:47 AM on 02/17/2011
My siblings who are UW grads express their lack of loyalty because fewer Wisconsin residents are admitted into the school with higher standards. They don't see their smart kids getting into the school while less qualified out of state kids are getting in so there is less support from the state residents. This is just a natural outcome of decisions the school made. Support is a two way street.
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joadar
11:10 AM on 02/17/2011
Yes, because parents are unbiased observers as far as which students are more qualified to got to UW.
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teeniechino
11:12 AM on 02/17/2011
That's happening at a number of state universities. $$.
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indigoiris715
Mad as a wet hen!
10:46 AM on 02/17/2011
Idea: remove the flagship PhD/Doctoral granting university from the system...
Exactly how is this good?
Really, is this at all about the budget?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
12:33 PM on 02/18/2011
Very bad idea. UW Madison is one of the top research universities in the world. Nobel prizes come from that research.
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serg99
10:06 AM on 02/17/2011
i want to go to that school but is they make it for profit then forget it im not going to waste money there public institutions have better research and funding then private and for profit
im from Texas and you guys just hired a clone of our terrible Governor wtf is wrong with yall im busting my ass to get the hell out of here to places with better workers protections and higher standards of living and education and you want to import all the worst ideas of the south yeah look how good thats gone for us
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indothinker
lighten up, francis
05:41 PM on 02/18/2011
grammar
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Chad Bormann
09:33 AM on 02/17/2011
as if uw madison isn't already a "political pawn."
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09:52 AM on 02/17/2011
...meaning what?
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Pete Leyden
09:20 AM on 02/17/2011
...excellent idea. Support it 100%
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09:28 AM on 02/17/2011
Why? Do you live in Wisconsin?
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Pete Leyden
09:28 AM on 02/17/2011
Yes.
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OlskoolDem
09:34 AM on 02/17/2011
terrible Idea you must be a Republican.
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Pete Leyden
09:35 AM on 02/17/2011
nope
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teeniechino
11:13 AM on 02/17/2011
Can't you tell? He thinks he's a tea partier.