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Texas Dems To Fleeing Wisconsin Lawmakers: 'Call Your Spouses For Conjugal Visits'


First Posted: 02/18/11 10:43 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:35 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- As a group of Wisconsin Democrats camp outside their state in hopes of stalling an anti-public union bill, veterans of such high-stake showdowns see numerous challenges ahead. The media coverage will be suffocating; the urge to cut a deal will be compelling; the lack of sex will be, well, unsettling. Seriously.

"If you are going to be out more than two weeks call your spouse for conjugal visits," explained Texas Democrat Leticia Van de Putte, who, back in 2003, was one of 11 state senators who fled to New Mexico in order to stall Republican redistricting plans. "After two weeks -- and most of my colleagues are men -- I said get their wives here and quick because you are under intense stress."

She's not joking. Among the many trying elements that come with a "quorum break," the disruption to a lawmaker's personal life ranks highest. In interviews with The Huffington Post, several legislators and a top staffer who went through the Texas saga called it, easily, the most exhausting of their careers.

"It is a nightmare," said Harold Cook, the man who staffed Senate Democrats when they fled to Albuquerque on their quorum break. "First off you are going to a place you are not familiar with, and you will be around people you don't know, and you will be going to try and get out your message to your constituents through a reporter you may never have met. You are going to be short on staff because they are going to be back in the capital ... It was just about the toughest thing I did professionally and I think a lot of the senators would say it was the toughest thing they did in their legislative careers."

Whether the situation in Wisconsin will be as trying as that which took place in Texas is, at this juncture, entirely unknowable. Back in 2003, lawmakers actually staged two quorum breaks in an effort to stop the mid-decade redistricting proposal pushed by Gov. Rick Perry and then-Majority Leader Tom Delay. The first involved 53 House Democrats who left for Oklahoma in order to (successfully) prevent the chamber from considering the plan in regular session.

Perry then pushed the plan in a special session. And in the summer of 2003, he found a parliamentary loophole that would get the legislation passed without the necessary two-thirds vote in the state Senate. Eleven Democratic senators subsequently left for Albuquerque, where they stayed, with the blessing of Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson, for 46 days.

"We knew it was going to pass, we couldn't stay out forever. But we had to postpone it in time to try and get it to a federal court," said Van de Putte.

Wisconsin Democrats appear to be pining for a different outcome, one in which public pressure will force Republican lawmakers and Gov. Scott Walker to reconsider a bill that would strip many public union's of their collective bargaining rights.

It's an incredibly difficult task. For starters, as Cook notes, the opposition has a "home team advantage." Whereas the Wisconsin Democrats are hiding out in Illinois, Republicans will be mingling with the capital press corps, pitching to anyone in ear shot how irresponsible a quorum break is.

"The argument that people will make that it is disrespectful of the process," said Rep. Pete Gallego, who in 2003 fled for Oklahoma while a member of the Texas House of Representatives. "Truthfully it is very much a part of the process because a quorum is part of the rules and when you are arguing one side or another you are arguing it under the rules ... when you are in the minority you use every tool at your disposal and that's what those guys are doing. So more power to them."

The longer the quorum lasts the more tiring it will be. The protesters demonstrating at the capitol building in Madison won't stay there forever. And as all legislation, not just the collective bargaining bill, grinds to a halt, public attitudes will shift.

"The worst-case scenario for those breaking the quorum is what if the opposition decides to wait them out," said Cook. "If you don't have an exit strategy from that then you may have problems."

Then there is the abrupt change in lifestyle. The jaunt to Albuquerque back in 2003 was jarring for many lawmakers. One senator had just had a heart attack, requiring medical records to be transferred and a cardiologist located. Another senator's mother was elderly and it was unclear whether she'd make it through the standoff. Another senator had a baby on the way while another was in financial trouble (legislators in Texas are citizen legislators).

Indeed, looking back on the standoff nearly eight years later, lawmakers say it was the human element, not the political one, that proved most difficult.

"Now I know why prisoners get buff," said Van de Putte. "We were all in the fitness center. And we were there so long that we actually integrated in Albuquerque culture we went to the baseball games, a lot of us were Catholic and we went to the church. We even went to the dances and bingo. We found restaurants and made friends."

"Think about it," she added. "For the 11 of us, we were uprooted for basically 48 days."

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WASHINGTON -- As a group of Wisconsin Democrats camp outside their state in hopes of stalling an anti-public union bill, veterans of such high-stake showdowns see numerous challenges ahead. The media ...
WASHINGTON -- As a group of Wisconsin Democrats camp outside their state in hopes of stalling an anti-public union bill, veterans of such high-stake showdowns see numerous challenges ahead. The media ...
 
 
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03:47 PM on 02/25/2011
hope they tell their wives to bring viagra. otherwise i doubt these visits will amount to much.
04:57 PM on 02/23/2011
Why worry about conjugal visits? These Democratic senators are already screwing the people of Wisconsin, who voted for the change they're trying to keep from happening.
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sak
05:44 PM on 02/21/2011
Typical Texas drivel. Is sex the only thing on their minds - other than taking guns to class, that is? I cannot believe that anyone would actually say this out loud. What better way to track these guys, right? Is this pathetic woman suggesting that these guys are going to hire ladies of the night? Please. They actually have work to do.
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Chernynkaya
03:55 PM on 02/21/2011
Cute headline. I'm so glad I turn to HP to find out the really important issues in WI.


{snark}
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
12:01 PM on 02/21/2011
Now if it was repubs hanging out across the State line, they'd just need to hit the nearest airport bathroom.
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
03:04 PM on 02/21/2011
Priceless! lol
 
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lemealone
It will take more than condiments to foil my brill
10:04 AM on 02/21/2011
public employee collective bargaining is wrong. Unions just need one weasel in office, usually they have at least a few dems.
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
03:06 PM on 02/21/2011
....and then of course the Koch Brothers have thousands of seriously misinformed individuals who think there is something in all this tea party nonsense for them.
 
You have all been duped.
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ibwilliamsi
Why'd they mod me this time?
03:09 PM on 02/21/2011
I hope you will begin to take your income without the benefit of any union gains that have been made for you. Maybe there's a freeway off ramp somewhere that you can supplement your income on.
07:29 AM on 02/21/2011
This is basically what PM Thatcher had to contend with in 1981-82. Massive strikes, riots and civil disobedience by the public sector. Her popularity (as well as Gov Christie;s initially fell), but she was re-elected in 1983 by a landslide.

People always prefer the strong horse to the weak horse. I expect Gov Walker's approval numbers to fall, maybe even into the 30s, but if he sticks to his guns he'll win big in 2014.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
10:14 AM on 02/21/2011
All it will take to emulate thatcher is to manufacture and win a small war.
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CornellDublier
Historical facts are tuff on Republican­s.”
07:16 AM on 02/21/2011
Stay strong and go long "Wisconsin's Freedom Fighter 14"
07:27 AM on 02/21/2011
hiding out in IL
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CornellDublier
Historical facts are tuff on Republican­s.”
10:30 AM on 02/21/2011
Nope i gave them all a room at my resort in the keys and told them they could stay as long as it took to rid the State of Wisconsin from what the Koch Scurge Enterprises has cast upon the union workers in our great State through their puppet Mortimer Snerd Walker
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07:12 AM on 02/21/2011
someone might want to point out that the little stunt the TX Dems pulled cost them dearly over the next few years. Today the TX GOP has a supermajority in both houses of the TX legislature
09:29 AM on 02/21/2011
Courtesy of the Convicted Felon, 'The Hammer'.
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10:37 PM on 02/20/2011
If these guys are married for more than a few years they are probably used to not having sex!
09:44 PM on 02/20/2011
Spouses? Why? If you want to have s*x the last person you would call is your spouse that is what GF are for.
The best way to stop abortions in the USA is to get married after a few years neither of you wants anything to do with s*x.
08:21 PM on 02/20/2011
I would be one cranky, testosterone drowned man after 2 weeks of celibacy. No thanks.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
10:15 AM on 02/21/2011
Have you considered running for pope?
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Gronkie
Radical Independent
07:52 PM on 02/20/2011
They could always follow the Republican example and either start emailing shirtless pix to advertisers on Craigslist or head to the nearest public restroom and start tap dancing in the stalls.