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Harry Reid: Time To Ban Brothels In Nevada

Brothel Ban Nevada

SANDRA CHEREB   02/22/11 05:27 PM ET   AP

CARSON CITY, Nev. — U.S. Sen. Harry Reid took aim at the world's oldest profession Tuesday, telling state lawmakers the time has come to have an adult conversation about Nevada's legal sex trade if the state hopes to succeed in the 21st century.

The Democratic Senate majority leader made the comments before a joint session of the Legislature as brothel owners and lobbyists – and working girls from the rural establishments – looked on from the gallery.

In his autobiography, Reid, a Mormon, wrote about growing up in the mining hamlet of Searchlight, Nev., and learning to swim in the pool at a bordello. His mother took in laundry from the 13 brothels around town.

But when the nation thinks about Nevada, Reid said, "it should think about the world's newest ideas and newest careers – not about its oldest profession."

He received a smattering of applause when he first suggested Nevada outlaw bordellos. By the time he finished with the topic, his remarks were met with silence from the representatives of a state whose identity is woven tightly with gambling, alcohol, quick marriages and prostitution.

Reid, who won re-election to a fifth term in November, focused his speech on job creation efforts in a state facing record joblessness, bankruptcies and foreclosures in the wake of the Great Recession.

"We've recovered in the past and we'll recover in the future," he said. "We've met crisis before and we've prevailed. Winning is what we do. Winning is what we have to do."

Reid drew applause when he said he would work to reform education and pledged to do "everything I can to help ease the burden on state and local school districts." He also spoke against the state's term limit, which he called "destructive," and urged lawmakers to have voters consider a repeal.

Reid also touted renewable energy, saying "the future of our economy depends on it and so does the future of our environment and our national security." He also gave a nod to tourism, saying it "will always be Nevada's biggest industry, but it can't be our only one."

But when it comes to attracting businesses, Reid said, "parents don't want their children to look out of a school bus and see a brothel. Or live in a state with the wrong kind of red lights."

"So let's have an adult conversation about an adult subject," he said.

Brooke Taylor, a prostitute at Bunny Ranch east of Carson City, called Reid's speech "offensive" and said Reid should be proud of the way the state's brothels regulate the sex industry.

"We're the first ones to do it right," Taylor said.

The infamous Mustang Ranch east of Reno was licensed as Nevada's first legal brothel in the early 1970s. Brothels now operate in outlying areas around the state, paying local jurisdictions assorted fees that can be a significant portion of their budgets. They are outlawed in five counties, however, including those encompassing Las Vegas and Reno.

Speaking with reporters afterward, Reid was asked why he was bringing up brothels now. He grew impatient with reporters' incessant questions about prostitution – a small fraction of his speech – and at one point suggested, "It seems to me you guys should get a new life."

Former state archivist Guy Rocha said this was the first time he has heard a U.S. senator ask the Legislature to act on the issue.

"I don't see how brothels are undermining the economy," Rocha said.

Two years ago, brothel owners supported a bill to impose a $5 tax on sex acts, but the measure died in committee.

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Associated Press writer Michelle Rindels in Carson City contributed to this report.

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CARSON CITY, Nev. — U.S. Sen. Harry Reid took aim at the world's oldest profession Tuesday, telling state lawmakers the time has come to have an adult conversation about Nevada's legal sex trade...
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03:24 PM on 04/05/2011
It is about time prostitution is banned nationwide, they dont enforce any of the insignificant laws "pandering" that these brothel pimps use to keep the women there. The owners should be prosecuted aside from put out of business. The majority of women the are victims of rape, mental illness, drug abuse they get used by the brothels until they cant function. Mental health officials have looked the other way for too long.
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Bloodhound41
06:23 PM on 02/24/2011
Reid should spend more time worrying about his own a-- and less about who else is sellingg theirs. It's amazing how fast a politician becomes opposed to term limits as he approaches his.
06:11 PM on 02/24/2011
Harry you should try it you might find what you can seem to muster in the senate..
02:02 PM on 02/24/2011
Mr reid, lol, really.
Ok then, close down all the girls and the gambling.
After all, we would not want any child or new business to see a "GAMBLING" house of il-repute, would we.
03:25 PM on 04/05/2011
that would be a great Idea
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Paul Houston
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06:15 AM on 02/24/2011
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Reid a Federal Senator and aren't all his lot complaining about the Federal Government interfering with State Government affairs?
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French Toast
MAPLE SYRUP
02:04 PM on 02/24/2011
A sitting Federal Senator is still allowed to voice his personal opinion. It's in the constitution under freedom of speech.
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MAPLE SYRUP
06:03 AM on 02/24/2011
I highly recommending the wikipedia on prostitution in Nevada. It's a good primer on why it really is a good idea to ban the brothels. Essentially pimps are still involved in the process and child trafficking still happens quite a bit. The vast majority claim to be abused and intimidated while working there and 80% say they want to leave. Which is a lot harder when you know the way that pimps are still involved in the process.

A lot of you are being way too naive.
09:25 AM on 02/24/2011
The first sentence of the wikipedia article you linked below states "This article may be unbalanced towards certain viewpoints." and it is painfully obvious that it is biased from the viewpoint of an outsider looking in. I do believe that the current brothel system could be improved to increase benefits to the women working there. Irregardless it is better than working illegally on the streets. Has anyone actually talked to or asked one of the brothel ladies what they would prefer or what they would do should the brothels be banned? I agree that the Nevada style regulation does not have the sex workers best interest at heart and could be vastly improved upon. Until that happens, I still personally know many a lady who has willingly traveled to apply for legal brothel employment. How each individual feels about prostitution is besides the point. For those who do choose to engage in commercial sex, safe working conditions are necessary which the brothels provide.

Also the article stated that child prostitution and trafficking is occurring in Las Vegas where prostitution is illegal anyway. How much child trafficking is actually in Storey County or the other counties where it is legal? One person I saw 'says' that it is occurring yet I can find no record of arrest or any other proof that it has happened.
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MAPLE SYRUP
11:02 AM on 02/24/2011
"Has anyone actually talked to or asked one of the brothel ladies what they would prefer or what they would do should the brothels be banned? "

Yes. 80% of them want to leave prostitution because of the indignities they suffer, which are up to and including rape. Because the pimps are still involved. Thus your "safe working conditions" theory is already a non-issue. There aren't any. Not that there couldn't be. There just aren't.

Also irregardless is not a word. You can't apply a negative to regardless. Regardless is the word you're looking for.

I will remain against these brothels until such a time when I choose to open an entire chain.
03:28 PM on 04/05/2011
13000 prostitutes on the streets of Nevada, it does not curb prostitution in any way WAKE UP. It promotes it using women that have been raped and abused.
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deepintheheartoftejas
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11:42 AM on 02/24/2011
And it's a better idea to drive the sex trade underground, where no regulation at all will occur? Making prostitution illegal isn't going to eliminate the trade. It flourishes in every other state.

But maybe really harsh laws criminal laws will discourage it. That's what has made the War on Drugs such a roaring success.
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12:49 PM on 02/24/2011
The brothels in Nevada operate as more of an oddity than anything else.

The US Government owned the Mustang Ranch for a while-that ware pretty interesting.
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MAPLE SYRUP
01:57 PM on 02/24/2011
It is poorly regulated, unenforced, and basically all you're doing is legitimizing criminals (I'm referring to the pimps, actually) and adding a middleman. I never proclaimed harsh laws or a war on anything. Strawman argument *yawn*

Keeping prostitution legal hasn't stopped the criminality. Banning it doesn't stop the criminality. So if it doesn't matter, I'll err on the side of order rather than anarchy. If people want their jollies, they should develop social skills.
05:40 AM on 02/24/2011
Senator, would it be better for you to be thinking on how to create more jobs, instead of destroying them? (Not that brothels are the only places where jobs could be created.)
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04:38 AM on 02/24/2011
Mr. Reid you should be focusing on jobs instead of trying to shut down brothels. Your lack luster performance over the past two years is in my opinion resulted in people voting for these Rushoublicons because you never grew a spine.
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JessWonderin
03:42 AM on 02/24/2011
Nevada has the only reasonable solution. It works and provides a service, taxes, jobs and a safe legal business solution. No one is forced to go or work there. Liberarian teapublicans should applaud the government staying out of the bedroom and independent small businesses ...
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06:06 AM on 02/24/2011
Actually a lot of them are being forced, and quite a few are underaged girls being trafficked. Pimps are still involved and actually invited as a means of being handlers to keep the girls in line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada#Views_on_the_Nevada_brothel_industry
03:29 AM on 02/24/2011
Another who cares political issue? Taking prostitution off the streets, out of the hands of pimps and the control of criminal elements of society. What a bad move at a bad time.
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jonmag
It aint that serious people :)
12:49 AM on 02/24/2011
I am a democrat......but I dont support this one harry heheheheh :)
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
12:32 AM on 02/24/2011
Prostitutes don't shoot people. People shoot people.
12:01 AM on 02/24/2011
Isn't that a State problem rather then a Federal problem? Why would Senator Reid get involved with this? The questions is outside of his purview, isn't it? Just wondering that's all.
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
12:47 AM on 02/24/2011
He's trying to keep republicans out of Nevada.
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12:51 PM on 02/24/2011
They can go with Drug Blimpblob on his "fishing trips" to the D.R.
06:19 PM on 02/24/2011
Ah that makes real sense.
03:37 AM on 02/24/2011
yes, his home state, no, political capital somewhere.
This is and should be a state issue desided by the voters. Which ever way the voters go is correct for that area. Commerce issues should always be answered at the state level until interstate traffic comes into play. All the moral judgements are for the community to answer for themselves.
11:21 PM on 02/23/2011
So Reid included a measure that would result in JOB REDUCTION in a speech about how to stimulate JOB CREATION? Well, that's "thinking", but not with his brain.