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Birther Bills Pop Up In Numerous States Ahead Of 2012

Obama Citizenship Bills

ERRIN HAINES   03/ 1/11 06:58 PM ET   AP

ATLANTA — Georgia is the latest state to propose legislation that questions whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S., joining 10 other states who have measures that want more proof before his name is put on the 2012 ballot.

Even though Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama's citizenship, his birth certificate has been made public and courts have rebuffed challenges, the so-called "birther" issue hasn't gone away.

Georgia Rep. Mark Hatfield, a Republican, said he still doesn't know if Obama is eligible to serve as president, and 92 of his GOP colleagues and one Democrat support the bill introduced Monday.

"Most people feel it's an issue to a significant enough portion of our population that it needs to be addressed by the state," Hatfield said. "It is, in a sense, a response to ... the sitting president and his inability or unwillingness to release his original birth certificate."

So-called "birthers" have contended since 2008 that Obama is ineligible to be president. They argue he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They have also not been satisfied with the "Certification of Live Birth" Obama has released, which is a digital document.

Hatfield's bill would require a certified copy of Obama's original birth certificate be provided.

University of Georgia political scientist Charles Bullock said the issue was likely more about politics.

"It could be that this individual really does doubt that Barack Obama was born in this country, despite evidence to the contrary," he said. "There are also people who think we have never sent astronauts to the moon. Or, the legislator may not have any real qualms, but figures this may play very well with his constituency in the district back home."

A handful of states, including Georgia, have proposed similar bills since Obama was elected, but five more states joined them during the current legislative session.

"This attention to the citizenship of presidential candidates is a fairly new issue that I'm seeing more of this year," said Jennie Bowser of the National Conference of State Legislatures.

In Georgia, state Rep. Calvin Smyre, an Obama supporter and former president of the National Black Caucus of State Legislators, was exasperated.

"I thought we had gotten that behind us as a nation. I think that's a step in the wrong direction," Smyre said.

Top Republican leaders, including former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and House Majority leader Eric Cantor, have also said Obama's citizenship is not an issue.

A Georgia House committee was expected to take up the proposal this week, and there's already enough support to pass that body. The Senate's approval is less clear.

"It is unfortunate that some people continue to fight the Civil War," said Senate Minority Leader Brown. "We should learn from history that this kind of behavior is bad for business. It's bad for the image of the state and at the end of the day, it doesn't accomplish anything."

The 10 other states with pending bills include: Arizona, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Connecticut, Indiana, Nebraska, Tennessee and Maine. The measure has failed this year in Montana.

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01:13 PM on 04/21/2011
Interesting... All you lefties went after John McCain in 2008 over his Eligibility. You have even filed lawsuits questioning the issue of where he was born. That does not make you right... it makes you Hypocrites, and birthers as well. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, Only a Natural Born Citizen is eligible for the office of the President.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 10, Congress has the power to punish Offenses against the Law of Nations.
Law of Nations, Book I, Chapter 19, Paragraph 212, Natural Born Citizens, are citizens born in the country, of Parents who are citizens.
U.S. Supreme Court not only once, but four times ruled that a Natural Born Citizen is a citizen, born on U.S. soil, of Parents who are both U.S. Citizens.
Barack Hussein Obama's Father was a British subject at the time of Barack's birth, therefore Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the office of the President. How do you say LOSER!
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Seven Teenatheart
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02:48 PM on 04/06/2011
Mr. Obama has complied with all legal requests. The State of Hawaii has certified that his birth certificate is valid.
The problem: Some people prefer a conspiracy theory and will NEVER be appeased.

Give it a rest already - the birther movement is a childish, petty, embarrassing non-issue!
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MissVirginiaVoter
Turn your radio down!
10:57 PM on 03/23/2011
I find all this comical........Birthers = cocaroaches...
10:11 PM on 03/24/2011
Mmmm...are they like chocolate ladybugs?

It is ridiculous. Birthers are just heavily influenced by right wing propaganda. The extent to which people will believe untruths that support their ideology constantly amazes me.

I'm sure you and they know that the birth cert. has been provided:

http://www­.factcheck­.org/elect­ions-2008/­born_in_th­e_usa.html

And just to head off the birther comment: "That BC that he produced is given by the state of Hawaii to a child that lives in Hawaii. It does not certify that the child was physically born in that state. That is the law in Hawaii.

Only the long form BC is the true one and that is the one that Obama will not release."

The response is in the above article:
"The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificat­e, but their short form has enough informatio­n to be acceptable to the State Department­."

If its acceptable to the State department it should be acceptable to birthers.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
11:49 PM on 03/06/2011
What Birthers don't seem to understand is, if Obama wanted to, he could just say "I don't have it." There is no requiremen­t that he produce a birth certificat­e.
06:38 PM on 03/06/2011
Was George washington a natural born citizen?
There are to many idoits in this world.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
11:51 PM on 03/06/2011
You, apparently. The U.S. Constitution says, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
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KrazyJay
10:24 PM on 03/04/2011
Some people think it's idiocy - this "flirting" with Obama's illegitimacy ... but, it's serious consumer politics, folks. If they can get a good percentage of the populace to believe that Obama is the problem in America, no one will pay attention to the further raping of our middle class and infrastructure.
07:03 PM on 03/04/2011
Re: The Birthers

This fool must have been sleeping through his English class way back in elementary school.

It isn't "Where's your papers" .....................but "Where are your papers." or "Where're your papers?"

Clearly we're not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer with these folks.

Second, don't these goofballs wonder why Mc Cain, during the campaign or the Republicans on the floor of Congress, haven't made an issue of "Obama's papers" if they believe that the president isn't constitutionally qualified to be president?

Oh sweet Jesus! I think these folks are just plain dimwitted!!!

Well, it could be that they may also be ignorant or in denial..... but most likely..........they're just plain garden variety stupid.
03:19 PM on 04/29/2011
Great post. I will tell you why McCain didn't make it an issue during the campaign because Obama wasn't president yet. This is simply a sore loser situation here, Obama won so they have to figure out a way to say he is not eligible to be president. If I am not mistaken he would have to have shown proof to the nominations committee to even run in the first place.

Regardless of whether or not I would support Obama, I am disgusted at the behavior that is going on in this country with stupid stuff like this instead of considering the issues we are facing.
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TwinX
Avast Ye, Birthers!
09:32 AM on 03/04/2011
Ooops! Here's the article re the Georgia Bill.

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/birther-bill-wont-pass-860210.html

TP Lady, you really should read this.
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TwinX
Avast Ye, Birthers!
09:30 AM on 03/04/2011
Great article re the Georgia Bill which applies equally to some others.

Cartoons sometimes hit the nail on the head.

http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2011/03/03/34-cartoon-mike-luckovich-on-birthers/

And another:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/verbalobe/5493269492/
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TeaLady005
05:44 PM on 03/03/2011
**Attn HP,,we have a moderator who is practicing censorship as this post does not violate any of your guidelines" *****
-------May I explain to my friends on the left, that it really does NOT matter if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii or not!?
 
---"Natural Born Citizen" = born on the soil to parents of the soil. Plural,,both parents are U.S. citizens.
---"Native Born Citizen" = at least one parent is a U.S. citizen.
---"Naturalized Citizen" = one who seeks and is granted U.S. citizenship after moving here.
 
---Now which category applies to Barack Obama?  The other main problem is Obama admitted in his book he was BORN with "dual citizenship". Therefore it is NOT possible to be BORN with 50% British citizenship, and also be BORN as a 100% "natural born citizen".
 
This is why so many lawsuits are still winding their way thru the lower courts, and is why so many states are moving foreward with bills requiring ALL candidates prove they meet the Constitutional requirement of being a "natural born citizen". --The Supreme Court will be forced to rule upon this very soon.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
06:48 PM on 03/03/2011
Sorry - you are mistaken.

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
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TeaLady005
07:54 PM on 03/03/2011
Thank you for at least citing reference to support your position! We could debate Wong Kim Ark, Bingham, Kerchner, Vattel,,or a host of other cases. But for simplicity lets use Bingham who was one of the framers of the 14th Amendment--
“[I] find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . . ”
Source – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866 (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
 
---Take special note "of PARENTS not owing allegiance.." --The framers in 1866 defined a "natural born citizen"  as one who was born on the soil,,to parents (plural) who are both U.S. citizens. ---Do we agree the Supreme Court will be forced to rule upon this Constitutional crisis very soon?  And you did not address the problem of being born with DUAL citizenship as the British Neutrality Act of 1948 clearly states Barack Obama was born with 50% British  citizenship, as his father was a British subject citizen.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
10:12 PM on 03/05/2011
That's one theory.
07:55 PM on 03/03/2011
Your theory is cute. How do you explain this not applying to the Presidents before Martin Van Buren? He was the 1st President born after the existence of the U.S. And as far as parents is concerned, it look like James Buchanan is the 1st President whose parents were born after 1776. ZYOu guys have a long road home with this one. Keep it up. I enjoy it :)
02:44 AM on 04/22/2011
That's what the Adoption ( grandfather ) Claus was for. The founding fathers knew none of them would meet the requirement of Natural Born, so in Article II, Section1, Claus 5, it reads, No citizen except a Natural Born citizen, OR A CITIZEN of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible for the office of the President. When the Constitution was adopted by the original thirteen colonies no one meet the requirement of Natural born, that is why they add the requirement of anyone seeking the office of the president must have attained the age of 35 years and been 14 years a resident within United states. Because they knew it would be at least 35 years before anyone would qualify as Natural Born after the adoption of the Constitution. By the way, if your theory is right, that only one parent is all that is required to be a natural born citizen, then our founding fathers would of never put the Adoption ( grandfather ) Claus in the Constitution. Think on that one....
03:12 PM on 03/03/2011
There is no credible reason and no evidence to make one believe that Obama was born in Kenya, other than xenophobia or racism. Some keep prattling on about long form birth certificates. I cannot produce a "long form birth certificate" for my own children because I misplaced the originals I was given at the time of their birth. I applied for and received replacement legal documents for their proof of citizenship. It does not have all the information of the original, but it is a certified legal document that would be recognized in any court in the land. (Millions of Americans, including Obama, are in the same situation.) People refuse to believe because it is contrary to their worldview that a black man with a Kenyan father is not worthy to hold the country's highest office.
02:56 AM on 04/22/2011
Well there is no evidence he was born in Hawaii either....Oh thats right there's th newspaper article that went out eight days after he was born, and could have been called in by his Grandparents after they got the call from their daughter in Kenya. and the certificate of live birth is fake. Has his fathers race listed as African, when in 1961 in the United Staes the correct term used was Negro. Must of copied the information off of his Kenyan Birth Certificate. The only ones that seem to have a problem with the truth are the ones accusing others as haters or racist,, when they are the ones who invoke hate toward others by slander......have a nice day
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dannywanny
02:12 PM on 03/03/2011
Birthers don't seem to be able to understand that the Congress, the courts and both political parties have accepted the proof that the president is a native-born American. No one in Congress has initiated an investigation. Every lawsuit has been dismissed. If all branches of the US government, both political parties and the vast majority of voters are satisfied, then where does that leave birthers? Sitting in their parents basement wearing aluminum head gear.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
12:45 PM on 03/03/2011
Birthers crack me up! These whiny republicans are crying about "big government" when they are the ones who grew the government, sobbing about "spending" when they are the ones who borrowed and spent us into oblivion, screaming for a "balanced budget" while they are the ones cutting taxes and revenues - then they want to waste more time effort and money trying to show the proof of Obama's citizenship, settled years ago, is not real. What's next, should we re-invade Iraq and search for those WMD's that we couldn't find for the past 8 years? Nut cases - one and all!
02:11 PM on 03/03/2011
Very true 68Namvet, they are delusional and hypocritical.
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snickers413
Moderate Liberal
04:59 PM on 03/03/2011
Wish I could triple fan you 68NamVet! Everything you write is true and right to the point. And as sad as the truth is at times ,you also make me laugh at how stupid the GOP really is, or I should say the people who believe them. Dont stop telling it like it is.
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97034Leftofcenter
10:20 AM on 03/03/2011
Birthers are so 19 century!! They, the tea baggers, and the right wingnuts cannot adjust to cultural change, and therefore will spend the rest of their lives wishing for the "old days". I am related to some of these people, and they are emotionally and intellectually "stuck". Change is difficult for any group, but doubly so when you are still in the pre civil rights mind set. The world has passed them by, and they are terrified, hence they lash out they only way they know how-suspicion, and hatred.
10:11 AM on 03/03/2011
And now even Huckabee, who I considered to be sane, has joined the movement...As much as his spokesmen try to step it back, he said what he said to pander to the birthers.
02:15 PM on 03/03/2011
I thought so too, but anyone capable of pandering to the insane will not be a good future president. (I agree)
04:20 PM on 03/03/2011
I do not agree with everything that Obama has done while in office, but I have great admiration and respect for him as a man! I believe he is sincere when he speaks of loving this country, his family and that he thinks about the problems of average people every day. He has been blocked at every juncture. Not much he can do when faced with so much opposition. The opposition has no case. They were against him from the beginning, with their goal to be his failure, even if it means taking the country down with them...
03:18 PM on 03/03/2011
I was disappointed in Huckabee too. That seemed to be intentional pandering to racists. Now a poll comes out showing that Huckabee is the most popular potential Republican presidential candidate in the south:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/03/02/109658/poll-southern-republicans-prefer.html

Huckabee can backtrack on the lie now, but it has already done what he intended.
04:13 PM on 03/03/2011
You are absolutely correct, he accomplished what he intended. Now he has 'credibility' with the birthers. Indeed, something all GOP candidates strive for-just look at (yawn) Pawlenty!