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Westboro Baptist Church Wins Supreme Court Appeal Over Funeral Protests

MARK SHERMAN   03/ 2/11 09:34 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that a grieving father's pain over mocking protests at his Marine son's funeral must yield to First Amendment protections for free speech. All but one justice sided with a fundamentalist church that has stirred outrage with raucous demonstrations contending God is punishing the military for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

The 8-1 decision in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., was the latest in a line of court rulings that, as Chief Justice John Roberts said in his opinion for the court, protects "even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate."

The decision ended a lawsuit by Albert Snyder, who sued church members for the emotional pain they caused by showing up at his son Matthew's funeral. As they have at hundreds of other funerals, the Westboro members held signs with provocative messages, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," `'You're Going to Hell," `'God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

Justice Samuel Alito, the lone dissenter, said Snyder wanted only to "bury his son in peace." Instead, Alito said, the protesters "brutally attacked" Matthew Snyder to attract public attention. "Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case," he said.

The ruling, though, was in line with many earlier court decisions that said the First Amendment exists to protect robust debate on public issues and free expression, no matter how distasteful. A year ago, the justices struck down a federal ban on videos that show graphic violence against animals. In 1988, the court unanimously overturned a verdict for the Rev. Jerry Falwell in his libel lawsuit against Hustler magazine founder Larry Flynt over a raunchy parody ad.

What might have made this case different was that the Snyders are not celebrities or public officials but private citizens. Both Roberts and Alito agreed that the Snyders were the innocent victims of the long-running campaign by the church's pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps, and his family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church. Roberts said there was no doubt the protesters added to Albert Snyder's "already incalculable grief."

But Roberts said the frequency of the protests – and the church's practice of demonstrating against Catholics, Jews and many other groups – is an indication that Phelps and his flock were not mounting a personal attack against Snyder but expressing deeply held views on public topics.

Indeed, Matthew Snyder was not gay. But "Westboro believes that God is killing American soldiers as punishment for the nation's sinful policies," Roberts said.

"Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and – as it did here – inflict great pain. On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker," Roberts said.

Snyder's reaction, at a news conference in York, Pa.: "My first thought was, eight justices don't have the common sense God gave a goat." He added, "We found out today we can no longer bury our dead in this country with dignity."

He said it was possible he would have to pay the Phelpses around $100,000, which they are seeking in legal fees, since he lost the lawsuit. The money would, in effect, finance more of the same activity he fought against, Snyder said.

Margie Phelps, a daughter of the minister and a lawyer who argued the case at the Supreme Court, said she expected the outcome. "The only surprise is that Justice Alito did not feel compelled to follow his oath," Phelps said. "We read the law. We follow the law. The only way for a different ruling is to shred the First Amendment."

She also offered her church's view of the decision. "I think it's pretty self-explanatory, but here's the core point: the wrath of God is pouring onto this land. Rather than trying to shut us up, use your platforms to tell this nation to mourn for your sins."

Veterans groups reacted to the ruling with dismay. Veterans of Foreign Wars national commander Richard L. Eubank said, "The Westboro Baptist Church may think they have won, but the VFW will continue to support community efforts to ensure no one hears their voice, because the right to free speech does not trump a family's right to mourn in private."

The picketers obeyed police instructions and stood about 1,000 feet from the Catholic church in Westminster, Md., where the funeral took place in March of 2006.

The protesters drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that assailed Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability. The Supreme Court agreed.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups had sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.

Roberts described the court's holding as narrow, and in a separate opinion Justice Stephen Breyer suggested that in other circumstances governments would not be "powerless to provide private individuals with necessary protection."

But in this case, Breyer said, it would be wrong to "punish Westboro for seeking to communicate its views on matters of public concern."

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Associated Press writer Maria Sudekum Fisher in Kansas City, Mo., contributed to this report.

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European1919
I am the PigmⒶn
06:21 AM on 04/27/2011
If only HuPo would feel obliged to respect this ruling.
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BarryWolk
99% OF THE REPUBLICANS MAKE THE REST LOOK BAD
01:13 PM on 04/25/2011
Yes, upholding our 1st Admendment can be painful at times, however, it MUST be upheld at ALL COSTS!

I do, however, believe that the Snyder family had the right to KICK THE ASSES of the depraved westboro Babtist church members who soiled their son's funeral. Who on earth would have convicted the Snyders' for doing so?!?
09:19 PM on 04/04/2011
Amazing how many people here belive in the freedom of their own opinions and speech, but not in freedom of speech for those with whom they disagree.

The US constitution awaits a US Constituency that is deserving of it.
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04:01 PM on 03/19/2011
Another example of Christan immunity in this country. If these were Muslim people holding the exact same signs at a soldier's funeral, they would be in jail for treason and terrorism. But Christians, "please go right ahead."
10:10 AM on 03/24/2011
I think you have your "facts" a little backwards. The most "attacked" religion in this country is Christianity.
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10:32 AM on 03/24/2011
You're right Andrew. Poor little Christians and their underdog religion. They barely have a voice in this country.
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10:44 AM on 03/24/2011
@ Andrew Steitz: Poor Christians :-(... So what if they hate America, and are openly thankful to their God that American soldiers are dead? You're absolutely right to come into their defense. You my friend are a "real patriot". LOL
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wolfsvssarah
Ugga Ugga Boo, Ugga Boo Boo Ugga!
02:44 PM on 04/14/2011
These people are not Christians. They can call themselves such, but their actions prove otherwise.
05:08 PM on 03/17/2011
The Westboro Baptists picketed a high school graduation because the school had a GLSEN group. It was really disgusting - they were dragging an American flag in the gutter. Fortunately the local police kept them at a distance, and we put up LOTS of counterprotesters. The students really felt supported. Not quite the same as a soldier's funeral.
05:52 PM on 03/13/2011
Victory for Freedom like it or not Free speech is protected and no I'm not even Christian nor apart of the WBC or its sympathizers
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04:06 PM on 03/19/2011
Ironically, the church mentioned fights to take freedom away from other citizens. Protecting this church's "freedom" is like making Godzilla urban developer.
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
04:45 AM on 03/12/2011
These folks are a Zen master's dream.
03:02 PM on 03/09/2011
Matthew 7: 15-20 tells us false profits can be known by their fruit (children), that "good trees bear only good fruit." so how can he be a true profit if he has children against him?
Or what about Revalations 22:11"he that is unrighteous, let him be unrighteous still..."
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
04:42 AM on 03/12/2011
Tell me, does Wall Street make true profits or false profits?
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BarryWolk
99% OF THE REPUBLICANS MAKE THE REST LOOK BAD
01:15 PM on 04/25/2011
Great comment, cliffhammond!!
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Kimiko Austin-Rijs
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08:28 AM on 03/07/2011
I do not understand this vile behavior. I should be shocked that people use God to spread such hatred and then use their first amendment rights to justify it. I do not agree with a lot of things that go on in this life, but I assure you that my solution is not to go to someone's funeral to profane it with my beliefs. God has NOTHING to do with this behavior and these people need to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. I am glad that I rejected Christianity and most organised religion long agao.
05:36 PM on 03/06/2011
May God help them if they ever come to my families funeral. It sickens me how they choose to translate Gods wishes in such an evil way, these people are not a church of true Baptist. As in the reading they should have their 501c taken as they are clearly for profit.
07:09 PM on 03/06/2011
True Scotsman Fallacy. They have the same right to speak for their god as you do yours.

They are also not for profit, they run a 501c. Look it up.
01:15 AM on 03/07/2011
But do they have the right to speak for "their god" at Robert Badore's funeral?
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Kimiko Austin-Rijs
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08:30 AM on 03/07/2011
So you defend their right to insult the family of a man that they do not know and have done them no harm?
01:07 AM on 03/06/2011
Controversy is a big seller now a days. Look at all them radio announcers always waiting like Vultures looking down on us to destroy your life... Evil is a choice, and if you chose it to make money, then you have given your body and soul to it. The courts have given the Westboro Babtist a blank check only by virtue of a law freedom of speech. So how does one defined itself from hateful words? By standing firm ground and facing them, show them your faith your love as Jesus Christ once did even when he himself was call hate and despise him. We must be more then hateful words, we must be like unto him, a pillar of his words: I'm reminded of theses words:A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he guideth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me: thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou hast anointed my head with oil; my cup runneth over.Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
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11:39 AM on 03/06/2011
"The courts have given the Westboro Babtist a blank check only by virtue of a law freedom of speech"
The courts gave them nothing. Phelps took what was his for the taking. What is "evil" is the lack of willingness of everyone else to take what they are entitled to.
If everyone stood up for what they believed in then his voice would be muted and dismissed. The "evil" is that other Americans, who would aim to do "good", if they aimed to do anything, do nothing.
p.s.
the Phelps' already know the bible
12:24 PM on 03/06/2011
The Phelps do not know the Bible, for if they did they would not be in the side of Evil intend. The meaning of the blank check, is that now with the court ruling they feel in power to continue the hate with impunity. Sometime people lack the courage to stand up and flight for what they believe, but all it takes is one man to stand tall and the rest will follow. Again you must remember the Phelps are not preaching the holly Gospel, but hate.
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rhuffie
12:43 PM on 03/05/2011
Just as nazis and KKK members push the limits of the first amendment, so do these guys. This highly organized family, mostly comprised of lawyers, is not really a church at all, more like a company that earns profits by egging people into confrontations so they call sue those in the equation with deep pockets - for violating their civil liberties. They have done this over and over, and always win! Pure genius, in an evil way. A case in point for people like me who like to argue that there is no built in ethical or moral basis to capitalism. Fortunately for us, there are only a few willing to sink this low to make a buck.
See:
http://kan­­­ewj.com/­w­b­c/”
04:18 AM on 03/07/2011
Absolutely spot-on.
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hershobr
08:55 AM on 03/05/2011
Westboro Babtist Cult.
08:16 AM on 03/05/2011
Short and sweet…. How does a church claim a Baptist affiliation, when they are not support by ANY Baptist organization? Simple…They do so by their own volition. Yet saying you are Baptist, does not make you Baptist!
They claim that the only Jews are Christians. Yet, they forget that the Jews were the RACE of men chosen by God to be His people, and that the Christians were adopted into the family of God as a “branch”; only after the Jews rejected Jesus as the Christ. WE who are Christians can never be Jews or Jewish. Being Jewish is not what you become; it is what you are from birth.
The Bible in the O.T. says in Ecclesiastes 3:1 “To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven”. In the same section and context, verse 8 the Bible says, “A time to love,
And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.” It seems to my mind that the Westboro “Baptist” Church is engaged in a type of war (protest). They show up, yell, wave signs and banners, and create all type of civil disobedience. From their actions, people will be hurt emotionally; scared, maybe some for their entire life by the actions of the Westboro Church. And contradictorily proclaiming that war is wrong and sinful!
If the Westboro Church wants to call itself Baptist, they should first align their social and political ideologies with the Baptist Convention.
09:38 AM on 03/05/2011
True Scotsman Fallacy.
06:06 AM on 03/08/2011
Thou a Westboro “Baptist” Church member would state that NO True Baptist would make such a claim; the claims themselves still stand unattested and biblically supported. Additionally, I used a reductio ad adsurdum argument in the second part of my post to show that even their biblical position is contrary to their social political actions.
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12:11 PM on 03/06/2011
"From their actions, people will be hurt emotionall­y; scared, maybe some for their entire life by the actions of the Westboro Church."
Some people have thin skin if they can be scarred with protest signs.
Your notion of what Baptist is, or should be, is no more valid than Phelps'; and the traditional Baptist church is probably more directly responsible for more emotional pain and suffering that Phelps’ 20 or so person congregation could ever be; simply because for some reason many more people consider organized Baptists more valid, than any other bible thumper who spreads hate through the bible.
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09:30 AM on 03/08/2011
“People in religion use words like Jewish, Catholic, Baptist, etc. because those words have meaning and define the person who holds them; not the other way around”
I think we could debate that, and we might both agree the other is somewhat correct. Congregations interpret the bible slightly differently then the next, mostly because the preachers are different, but more importantly because the congregation is different. Consider 60yrs ago when southern Baptist churches were segregated by race. Consider the vast array of Christian an Jewish sects. If they did as you suggest and each conformed to an organizations guidelines, no such sects may have been created. So I wouldn’t quite settle on thinking that, because they start under the same name, they are not initially different, or may branch off completely based solely upon how they self identify. The Phelps self identify as Baptists Christians. Phelps may have been rejected from a Baptist organization because of his beliefs, but he could of also been rejected as a preacher if he was a woman with conforming beliefs. I don’t believe that strictly beliefs are the qualifier for religious organizations.
“Most theologians would testify that the central core message of the Bible is….”
I wouldn’t argue their opinion, and don’t necessarily disagree, the question is how that message is delivered to a congregation, and the actions it leads them to take. Baptists organizations promote anti women, and anti homosexual themes that play out as hate and violence.
06:59 AM on 03/05/2011
absolutely unbelievable. These nutters have the right to free speech, where the hell are this families rights to bury their son without harrassment and abuse? Just horrible, words fail me.
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12:24 PM on 03/06/2011
A Phelps protest can be enveloped by 100 counter protesters. This family needed support, not pity. I have seen people willing to come out and turn a Phelps protest into a symbol of community solidarity.
If words fail you then they will defeat you with words
Think of the right ones and counter, or be called a coward at every turn, the choice is ongoing, and we all know it.
The consequence of the wrong choice is what reminds us of the necessity of the right one.
Nothing stops and ends with what the Phelps do
01:37 AM on 03/07/2011
In San Francisco counter-picketers held signs saying "I Have A Sign" and "God Hates Bunnies". People loved it, laughed at Phelps, and the Phelpses left early.

Ridicule does work. But as Woody Allen says, it can be hard to satirize a guy in shiny boots and armband.
02:32 AM on 03/07/2011
Excuse me? I wouldnt call myself a coward, just disgusted. As an Australian I have never heard of this group or any church/whatever behaving in such a disgusting manner, it certainly doesnt happen here and I strongly doubt they would be permitted to get away with it, given that our country doesnt have a bill of rights enshrined within our constitution, and guess what? We manage just fine, and we dont have to put up with lunatics turning up at military funerals exercising their right of 'free speech' (read right to behave in a completely antisocial and offensive manner).

If you turn up in counter protest to this sort of madness then good for you, but I was merely expressing solidarity and sympathy for these families, thankyou very much, sorry it wasnt well articulated enough for your tastes.