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Bill Gates On States' Accounting: 'The Guys At Enron Never Would Have Done This'

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First Posted: 03/03/11 03:26 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:35 PM ET

LONG BEACH, Calif. -- During a second appearance onstage at the annual TED conference, Bill Gates spoke out against worsening state budget deficits caused by accounting "tricks" he said would make Enron's former executives blush.

The Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist said state budgets have received a puzzling lack of scrutiny and have been "riddled with gimmicks" aimed at deferring or disguising the true costs of public employees' health care and pension obligations, citing California's ongoing budget crisis as an example of creative deficit spending and the subsequent cuts to education spending as an unacceptable cost.

"[R]eally, when you get down to it, the guys at Enron never would have done this. This is so blatant, so extreme," Gates said of state governments' accounting practices generally. "Is anyone paying attention to some of the things these guys do? They borrow money -- they're not supposed to, but they figure out a way -- they make you pay more in withholding to help their cashflow out, they sell off the assets, they defer the payments, they sell off the revenues from tobacco."

Gates argued that government accounting practices should be more like private accounting. "The amount of IQ and good numeric analysis both inside Google and Microsoft and outside ... really is quite phenomenal. Everybody has an opinion. There's great feedback and the numbers are used to make the decision," he said. "If you go over to the education spending and health care spending ... you don't have that type of involvement on a number that's more important in terms of equity and in terms of learning."

The former Microsoft chief executive, now the co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, said youth and education programs stand to lose the most as a result of the gaping holes in state budgets.

"It really is the young versus the old to some degree. If you don't solve what you're doing in health care, you're going to be deinvesting in the young," Gates said. "With the kind of cuts we're talking about, it will be far, far harder to get these incentives for excellence or to move over to use technology in the new way."

Remedying state budget crises will take better accounting, better tools, and more respect for leaders who step up to address these problems, Gates argued. "We need to reward politicians," he said. "Whenever they say there are these long-term problems, we can't say, 'Oh, you're the messenger with bad news? We just shot you.'"

The bottom line, according to Gates: "We need to care about state budgets because they are critical for our kids and our future."

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LONG BEACH, Calif. -- During a second appearance onstage at the annual TED conference, Bill Gates spoke out against worsening state budget deficits caused by accounting "tricks" he said would make Enr...
LONG BEACH, Calif. -- During a second appearance onstage at the annual TED conference, Bill Gates spoke out against worsening state budget deficits caused by accounting "tricks" he said would make Enr...
 
 
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Jamar Freeze
09:37 AM on 03/08/2011
I agree with Bill gates. People really need to start scrutinizing their Local & State government officials in regards to their state/city budget deficit. If the Federal government is going to be effective, perhaps, they should AUDIT each State to identify all unethical accounting practices, wasteful spending, and mismanaged budgets. THEN propose that each State's governor overhaul their respective State's financial practices and procedures. Only then will you ferret out the corruption and begin to find the savings that each State so desperately needs! In turn this would have a favorable impact to our country's overall budget crisis. #My10Cents
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Chicago0048
12:00 PM on 03/09/2011
It's called forensic auditing. Get a real professional accounting firm in to look at the books with a non-partisan eye.
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NeoConsAreFinished
Fight the Ah mer I cun talibanned
03:40 AM on 03/08/2011
Bill really did not have much substance there. Besides as far as I know he is not an accountant. The problem is much deeper than an accounting problem. 40 yrs of the con machine convincing half the country that taxes are bad, the US gov is inept and anyone who doesn't believe Jesus had a pet dinosaur is not a real American has put us in this spot.
Stop the wars, make the rich pay Reagan era tax rates and we are golden.
01:18 PM on 03/07/2011
But, but, but, Michael Moore said there's nothing wrong with state budgets.
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NeoConsAreFinished
Fight the Ah mer I cun talibanned
03:41 AM on 03/08/2011
And he is right.
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02:10 AM on 03/07/2011
It should be noted that throughout our history con-artists have wound up with jobs as top experts fighting the very types of cons they used to commit. Frank William Abagnale, Jr., for example. Then there are smaller, more innocent or more obscure cases, like the boy who stole the source code for the game Half-Life 2 before the game even came out. He didn't mean to hurt the developers, and he might not have been caught if he hadn't sent an apology. Now if I'm not mistaken he is a security expert himself.

I'm not seeing any actual evidence against Bill's statement presented in these comments. Just citings of past actions and pointing out other problems that Bill doesn't actually deny exist or contribute to the problem. On that note, (out of curiosity) people keep saying he's rich, but just how rich, to public knowledge? He's not the CEO anymore. Is he even affected by these cuts? Regardless, much of the sentiment here seems to be mere grudges pushing aside rationality, something the republicans that caused all these problems like to take advantage of.
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Stealthboxer
Cleaning up 8 years of Bush one day at a time
12:06 AM on 03/07/2011
Alot of these comments posted are true but Gates has one of the largest giving charitable organizations to ever be setup in the US. have to give credit where credit is due-his mind might be helpful for deficit reduction ideas
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
09:08 PM on 03/06/2011
Senility is setting in, what ENRON did was much worse,,,,,Billy you ought to speak to David Kay Johnston of Perfectly Legal and Free LUNCH......
08:43 PM on 03/06/2011
This is coming from a man whose company sucked on peoples wallets after making their grossly inferior product virtually the only one (called a monopoly). His company, from inception, was nothing but lousy dirty tricks that forced people to use a product that has held technology back for years. Now he seeks to become a guru and benefactor. Ignore him.
06:33 PM on 03/06/2011
i must agree fully with billy g on this one. he can sit on his heap of worth and actually spot this obvious fraud being pulled on too many actual taxpaying contributors to states coffers.

too many need to get over the envy of billy g's worth, and realize he is a cogent and clear thinking semi-harvard grad, well indoctrinated in plenty of these very same methods, so he knows from whence they come from and can see through the political haze that obscures them.

the future children will be suffering for years, due to these indebting practices. nobody wants to 'conserve', they only see unlimited promise as they spew money like firewater onto the fire. god help us all.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
09:10 PM on 03/06/2011
You really need to read The Big Con and Perfectly Legal......Billy is sitting on millions of dollars in deferred taxes that he pays no interest or penalties on and that Corporate Jet was part of his $300,000 tax deduction for going to Davos....
09:48 PM on 03/06/2011
I'm really not the grammar police. In fact, I hate the grammar police. But, you appear to have some interest in writing and as a prior editor, your post drove me nuts.

I suggest you read George Orwell's "On the English Language." It's about the misuse of metaphors. Until then, just try to stay internally consistent, for example:

"actually spot this obvious fraud" Is it obvious or obscure? Why? You say because he's rich? That's not a reason. He's rich so he's stupid? Oh, no later, you say he's a "semi-Harvard grad" or drop-out, but I guess that means not stupid? See? Awful!!
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SamOhSam
Consumption and Fear
08:21 AM on 03/07/2011
Thank you Steppenwolfsayshi! Should America have people like you, we will never derail.
As a new American, I feel sorry when I see people write or speak in poor and oversimplified grammar. Though I struggle sometimes, but I try to do my best speaking and writing in proper, well organized, and thoughtful English.
F&F
06:28 PM on 03/06/2011
Perhaps Gates has realized that globalization is a great way to increase costs and is fearful since American workers remain the most highly educated and nearly the most productive in the world? If he wants to secure the long term interests of his business, he should stop investing in Goerbelesque mad scientist experiments with no informed consent on the world's poor, while calling himself a "philantropist," and put that money into California's schools. His company will have workers in the future, though I'm sure its not nearly as fun as playing God.
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structurequity
structurequity not oppression
05:34 PM on 03/06/2011
Not a word from this billionaire about the 2008 melt down and suck down of state workers pension funds, failed investment schemes brokered by Bill's friends and more shenanigans all in the name of 400 who have more wealth than 160 million combined... No Bill go home to your casa and count your money.
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jjkmack
10:45 AM on 03/06/2011
Gates was born with a silver spoon in his mouth to a multi-millionaire lawyer father, and well connected wealthy mother who personally knew the head of IBM to get Gates his first contract. He went to one of the most exclusive private schools, and had his way paved all the way by this legal help and connections. He ran a predatory business all geared toward personal gain, not public good. And now he has the nerver to be giving advice on the public good and public education...puh-leeze!
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trekbette
Country Before Party!
07:32 PM on 03/06/2011
All that does not change the fact that he is right.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
09:12 PM on 03/06/2011
All that does not change the fact that he is WRONG and he knew about the shenanigans at Long Term Capital Management and Moody's becuase of his good friend Warren....
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jjkmack
10:36 AM on 03/06/2011
State budget deficits are caused by the recession and tax breaks to bazillionares.

I understand that money isolates you from reality, and here is a perfect example. He was unaffected by this horrible recession caused by bankers and other reckless businessmen, and he benefited by the tax breaks for the over privileged.

Classic Gates FUD, spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
09:13 PM on 03/06/2011
But not sharing in the sacrifice, not for one minute....paying 15% on his so called capital gains and deducting his corporate jets and yacht....
08:42 AM on 03/06/2011
Edit: "Remedying state budget crises will take better accounting, better tools, and more respect for leaders who step up to address these problems," and more tax money funneled to Bill from those state contracts to buy Microsoft accounting software.
06:49 AM on 03/06/2011
He has no idea what he is talking about.
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Politixxx
Nurse, Mother, Wife, Friend...Politically Intune
08:17 PM on 03/05/2011
The message Bill Gates is delivering is correct. These accounting practices model a legalized scheme. We will never get ahead as a result many will suffer. Drastic changes are going to need to made, even then there is no quick fix. I just hope that critical cuts are not to education, the one thing that help us to recover in the long term.
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jjkmack
10:38 AM on 03/06/2011
just restoring 3% of the income taxes on the over-privileged will solve all our deficit and debt problems literally overnight.
12:20 PM on 03/07/2011
HAHAHAHAHA