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Ken Webber, Oregon Bus Driver, Suspended Over Confederate Flag

JEFF BARNARD   03/ 3/11 05:45 PM ET   AP

GRANTS PASS, Ore. — Ken Webber wears his redneck heart out in the open, for all to see. On his right arm a red, white and blue tattoo depicts his skin ripped open to reveal an American flag and the words "100 percent American." On his left, the tears reveal a Confederate flag and the words "Pure Redneck."

So when Webber was told to surrender the Confederate flag that flies from the CB antenna on his pickup truck – or be suspended from his job driving a school bus in Talent – the choice was easy.

Webber chose his flag.

"My flag will fly," he told The Associated Press on Thursday. "No one here is gonna tell me what I can and can't believe in."

Webber, 28, of Medford drives the kindergarten bus for Talent Elementary School.

He has been driving for First Student Inc., which contracts buses for the Phoenix-Talent School District, for the past four years. He also attends community college and is married with four young children.

Webber got the Confederate battle flag, emblazoned with the word Redneck, as a birthday present in 2009 from his dad, and has been flying it ever since.

But last month, school Superintendent Ben Bergreen saw it on Webber's truck parked at the school bus yard in Talent and told Webber's supervisor the flag had to go, or Webber had to go.

The school district owns the bus yard and leases it to First Student.

"The fact is, our district is about 37 percent minority students," Bergreen said. "It's fairly common knowledge that the Confederate battle flag is perceived by folks as a racist or negative symbol. The Southern Poverty Law Center said more than 500 extremist groups use it as one of their symbols.

"We have a policy," he added. "It's about displaying symbols on school property that were racist, or had a potential to be seen as racist might be a better way to say that."

First Student spokeswoman Bonnie Bastian confirmed Webber had been suspended, but said she could not discuss details.

Webber said he could park the truck off school property, but he would have to walk a mile to his job.

He said he is suspended without pay pending an investigation, and he expects to have to sell off some belongings to pay the rent.

"I believe in God and know he'll get us through this," he said.

Webber has not hired a lawyer but is considering taking his stand to court.

Courts have upheld the right of schools to limit display of the Confederate flag on their property. Last November, the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the right of a Tennessee school district to suspend a student for wearing a T-shirt and belt buckle bearing the image of the Confederate battle flag.

Born in Riverside, Calif., Webber said his family moved around the country as his father was transferred from Air Force base to Air Force base, until they settled in Southern Oregon when he was 11.

He and his friends considered themselves "backyard rednecks" growing up. They hunted, fished, roamed the mountains, and drove ATVs in the mud. He dropped out of high school in Phoenix, Ore., but is working toward a degree in juvenile corrections at Rogue Community College.

"I work for what I have. I support my family. It's just who I am. I'm a redneck," Webber said. "It's a way of life."

Webber said flying the flag had nothing to do with racism, extremist groups or politics.

"When you've got the word 'redneck' going straight across (the flag), it takes away that whole thing," he said. "It's just about standing up for what you believe in. This is one thing I'm doing. It ain't coming down."

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Information from: Mail Tribune, http://www.mailtribune.com/

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06:17 PM on 03/09/2011
And what about a swastika Mad_Jack? Is that freedom of speech too? There are limits to free speech.
04:26 PM on 03/07/2011
Lke the Westboro Baptist Church's activities, displaying the Confederate flag is 1st Amendment-protected freedom of expression. The school may have a legitimate case regarding what's displayed on its property; I'm not sure about that. It's regrettable that this article continues the trend of citing as a caredible source the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization which makes its money feeding the fears and prejudices of its donors by exposing supposed hate groups. The Confederate flag may or may not be used as a symbol by more than 500 extremeist groups; but it's also highly likely the US flag is similarly employed by many, most or even all of those same groups. For example, the Klan has used both for literally decades; nigh on to 100 years if you search out old "2nd iteration" Klan photos, like the classic march down DC's Pennsylvania Avenue. It will be interesting to see if the ALCU signs on to Mr. Webber's defense; they have defended display of the Confederate flag in the past.
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freddychef
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02:47 AM on 03/08/2011
and the spin never stops in fantasy land
03:09 AM on 03/07/2011
seriously will that flag put meat on the table? You ain't no true redneck...cause a true redneck walk a mile just in walking from the driveway to get in the house! So walking a mile to get to work would be child's play
03:02 PM on 03/06/2011
It's funny how white people are told over and over again to keep a open mind to other peoples views. However, when it comes to non-whites keeping an open mind to white peoples views, it just doesn't happen. Do understand what i'm saying? America's Professor Priesthood says that white people should conform to non-white peoples thinking and way of life and not the other way around.
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07:22 PM on 03/05/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/05/ryan-pleune-bus-driver_n_831734.html

Okay...for all those who want to tell us how your employer gets to make the rules, or it was against the rules, or how political this all is and has no place because he's a bus driver....because I've spent the last 2 days hearing how all of these, and that "fact" that some of you declare with certainty that you know his beliefs and intentions based on a redneck rebel flag on his own truck where no student or even passer by on the road could see it, can reconcile all the above accusations you've made against Webber with a Salt Lake City Bus Driver who violated school district rules by deciding to "teach" a political lesson to a captive busload of students and got fired for it.

Because a great deal of my fellow liberals seem to be declaring the SL bus driver a hero being persecuted for his freedom of speech.

I'm sure this would not have been the case had he decided to "teach" the kids a tea-bagger related lesson by driving them to a conservative rally of some kind.

One bus driver did his job every day without commenting to children or driving children around political rallies of his choosing (he just parked his truck where no student could see) and one subjected an entire busload of kids to his political viewpoint, and ADMITS IT.
12:38 PM on 03/05/2011
Apparently you cannot fly the American flag in California because of tensions!
What tension? We now cannot fly the American flag in America?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po7k5O9LtBo&feature=related
Boo2You2
Hatefulness is not a virtue
02:11 PM on 03/05/2011
I know that you would like for this to be a free speech issue, but it is not.

I'm getting tired of saying this, but say it I must:

"This is not a free speech issue. An employer can set the conditions of employment­­­. In Oregon a person can be fired for any reason, or for no reason at all, except for religion, race, etc."

http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/A­t-will_emp­loyment
02:27 PM on 03/05/2011
If you go back to my prior posts, you will see I agree with you!

This whole thing with the American flag and this little boy really irks me though! That's all! =0)
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GoldwaterKid
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02:44 PM on 03/05/2011
He has been suspended.
Boo2You2
Hatefulness is not a virtue
02:12 PM on 03/05/2011
Sorry... misposted.
11:14 AM on 03/05/2011
This is a violation of his first amendment free speech rights. Plain and simple!
Boo2You2
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06:27 PM on 03/05/2011
No it's not.
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10:06 AM on 03/05/2011
Unless he is a Native American, he is not "100% American."
11:12 AM on 03/05/2011
Native,as you put it changes over time. I am a Native ...but I'm not an indian. Besides there was no such place as America until Europeans named it that. Individual indians refer to themselves by what tribe they're in.... not American.
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pita143
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07:13 PM on 03/05/2011
Sorry but what you call "Native Americans' are not really Native Americans. Before the Indians started settling this country after they crossed the land bridge between what is now Alaska and Russia there were tribes from Mexico, Central and South America who had been settled in this area for 1000's of years. Tribes like the Mayan and other who traveled North are the true Native Americans.
07:45 PM on 03/05/2011
That theory has some flaws something to do with blood types.

And you are splitting hairs.

How about this the people who were on the beach when the Europeans arrived are Natives of America.....Or this continent...hemisphere....land.
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proudem
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07:46 PM on 03/05/2011
I stand corrected...my point was that he is of European dissent.
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09:40 AM on 03/05/2011
what in the h8ll is some dink in Oregon doing with a Confederate flag? Good lord...Stonewall Jackson is rolling, spinning, and spitting out lemons.
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07:30 AM on 03/05/2011
Close your eyes and imagine what a "100% American" looks like. This fellow does not come to mind at all.
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MacManLB
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07:13 AM on 03/05/2011
I've been to Medford, Oregon. It is no place for black people or anybody else of color for that matter. It's getting better but back in the 80's and early 90's it was a dreadful environment. This fellow is simply a throwback to that ugly time. Note that he wants to work in the prison industrial complex. The dropouts and card carrying "rednecks" all want to be prison guards, wardens, etc. The prison system is nothing but slavery and these "rednecks" want to be the slave drivers.
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07:57 AM on 03/05/2011
Back in the seventies there was one black person living in Medford, and that was so unusual that the paper ran a story about her. Southern Oregon was a hotbed of Klan activity in the twentieth century. It ain't Portland. I haven't been there in years, but it's hard to imagine a 37% minority school population in the whitest monoculture I've ever seen.
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GoldwaterKid
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02:48 PM on 03/05/2011
My sister who lives in Ashland told me they actually have a couple of black TV commentators, sports coaches, teachers, workers and owners of business. In Medford.

And that Talent, 37% minority in their school, has been from the immigration populations for the farms, ranches, vineyards and orchards over the past 60 years.
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04:22 AM on 03/05/2011
It is his personal truck, not the bus he drives. I understand that the bus lot is owned and run by the school district, but it is his flag and it just says Redneck. It's not like it says "I think the KKK is OK!" or something absurd. It isn't there to create anger or hatred, it isn't telling people that they should die or something as horrible, it says that is how he chooses to live his life.
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proudem
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10:15 AM on 03/05/2011
Actually when the white supremacists took the Confederate flag as their symbol...it became even more a racist symbol. And while many claimed that it was a symbol of succession, a rebellious symbol against Fed Gov oppression, it has ALWAYS been a racist symbol. It is much bigger than just flying a simple flag. If he was such an "American" as he states, why doesn't he fly the American flag? Me thinks there is more going on here than "the redneck" admits.
Boo2You2
Hatefulness is not a virtue
11:19 AM on 03/05/2011
Regardless of how it is twisted, he did get himself fired for it.
03:14 AM on 03/05/2011
If there is a God, and if he will help this man's family through this experience... I assume that means this God is a wise and loving God.
I must also assume that this is the same God who guided this country back to oneness. A oneness that put aside the Confederacy. Which means this God put himself wholeheartedly behind one flag. The one with 50 stars and 13 stripes. God bless America.
Boo2You2
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11:20 AM on 03/05/2011
Hmmmm... That's something to think about.
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GoldwaterKid
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11:02 PM on 03/04/2011
Did a little research today.

He was only 'suspended'.....

The flag on his vehicle, isn't the one seen in the HP picture.
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10:49 PM on 03/04/2011
On the surface I've gotta side with the guy on this one. In my mind the rebel flag is symbolic of treason and I'd object to it being painted on the side of a school bus or flow over an public building but I can't see the right in firing or threatening to fire an individual for displaying the confederate flag on his truck. Maybe there is more going on here than meets the eye but then again I have known panicky school administrators who'll do just about anything to avoid the possibility of a conflict with citizens. To me the really annoying thing is giving this guy national publicity.
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12:05 AM on 03/05/2011
today in Ohio a school got in trouble when they divided a class into "slaves" and "masters" for a Social Studies lesson, leading several black students to being teased later for being "slaves"....so far the teacher is fine there...the school apparently approved the lesson, and this oregon school district is suspending a guy for something that kids couldn't even see in an employee parking lot, far from a ny school in a Bus Yard...go figure
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12:35 AM on 03/05/2011
But, He Has..... Tattoo's!!!!
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01:31 AM on 03/05/2011
There are also people who would very much like to parade their swastika signs; so if the law is against them doing this, why not this guy. Why can't he just take the flag off of his truck while on school property? Is this worth making his family starve.
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10:39 AM on 03/05/2011
Personal idiocy is protected by the constitution.
07:37 AM on 03/06/2011
Or park off school property? No, because complying with school policy isn't the point for this guy.