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Greece Slams Credit Rating Agencies After Downgrade

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PAN PYLAS   03/ 7/11 03:28 PM ET   AP

LONDON — Greece launched a tirade against U.S. credit ratings agencies Monday after Moody's downgraded its debt grade further below junk status, warning the bailed-out euro country might have to default on its massive borrowings.

The agency slashed its rating by three notches to B1 from Ba1 and warned it may cut again if the government's commitment to austerity wanes or international creditors become less willing to support it – Greece was saved from bankruptcy last May after accepting a euro110 billion ($154 billion) bailout from the EU and the International Monetary Fund.

The Greek government's response was quick and critical. It said Moody's downgrade was "completely unjustified" and "does not reflect an objective and balanced assessment" of Greece's actual economic prospects.

"Ultimately, Moody's downgrading of Greece's debt reveals more about the misaligned incentives and the lack of accountability of credit rating agencies than the genuine state or prospects of the Greek economy," the finance ministry said.

It said the agencies – rivals Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings have also downgraded Greece heavily in past months – were trying to make up for failing to predict the 2008 global financial crisis.

"Having completely missed the build-up of risk that led to the global financial crisis in 2008, the rating agencies are now competing with each other to be the first to identify risks that will lead to the next crisis," the ministry said.

In explaining its downgrade, Moody's warned the Greek government's economic program may not yield the intended drop in debt and return to growth, and noted Greece's considerable difficulties in raising revenues. It also highlighted the risk of tougher debt conditions when the EU-IMF bailout package ends in 2013.

"The risk of a post-2013 restructuring might lead the Greek authorities and investors to participate in a voluntary distressed exchange before that time," Moody's Investor Services said.

The Greek finance ministry queried the timing and the size of the downgrade, describing them as "incomprehensible" in the wake of the government's success in cutting its budget deficit by 6 percentage points in 2010 to around 9 percent of the country's national income. The government has also pledged to bring the deficit to the EU limit of 3 percent by 2014.

Despite the progress, Greek national debt is still expected to exceed 150 percent of GDP this year, while the economy is forecast to contract 3 percent.

The finance ministry said the reduction in the budget deficit was the "strongest evidence that relative to last year the risk of sovereign default has not increased but rather decreased as Greece is on a bold path towards fiscal consolidation."

It said Moody's failed to properly take into account the positive impact from the austerity measures and structural reforms.

"At a time when the global economy is fragile and market sentiment is sensitive, unbalanced and unjustified rating decisions such as Moody's today can initiate damaging self-fulfilling prophecies and certainly strengthen the arguments for tighter regulation of the rating agencies themselves," it added.

Credit ratings agencies have been blamed for failing to properly identify risks in the global economy ahead of the financial crisis, which led to the deepest recession since World War II and a crisis of confidence in bloated government finances, particularly in Europe.

Some experts argue the agencies have now gone too far the other way – playing it safe by being excessively pessimistic – and market regulators are planning reforms to better supervise them.

The EU has been one of the agencies' most vocal critics and is looking at ways of reducing market reliance on their ratings, including greater competition among agencies and alternative ways to fund ratings.

On Monday, it played down the downgrade and insisted it would have no impact on its own view of Greece's public finances, which are made regularly to verify the implementation of the international bailout deal.

"We have our own assessments of what is going on," said Amelia Torres, spokeswoman of the EU Commission. "This is the assessment, as far as we are concerned, that you should look at and we don't react to rating agency announcements."

Standard & Poor's and Fitch rate Greece slightly higher at BB+ though S&P has recently warned that it may lower its view soon.

Whether Greece ends up restructuring its debts – effectively reducing the amount it pays to creditors – could hinge on whether it can get the support of investors in bond markets.

Thanks to its bailout, Greece doesn't have to raise any substantial sums soon. However, Greece is trying to keep a presence in the markets and is due to auction euro1.25 billion ($1.75 billion) worth of 26-week treasury bills Tuesday.

At the moment, it's effectively blocked from issuing longer-term debt because of the exorbitantly high costs involved. The interest rates markets are charging Greece to lend money for ten years is over 12 percent, nearly 9 percentage points more than what Germany has to pay even though they share the same currency.

Although Monday was a national holiday in Greece, bonds were trading in international markets – the benchmark 10-year bond yield for Greece spiked 0.07 of a percentage point to 12.32 percent.

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Nicholas Paphitis in Athens and Raf Casert and Gabriele Steinhauser in Brussels contributed to this report.

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LONDON — Greece launched a tirade against U.S. credit ratings agencies Monday after Moody's downgraded its debt grade further below junk status, warning the bailed-out euro country might have to...
LONDON — Greece launched a tirade against U.S. credit ratings agencies Monday after Moody's downgraded its debt grade further below junk status, warning the bailed-out euro country might have to...
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structurequity
structurequity not oppression
01:55 PM on 03/08/2011
The SEC still has not enforced the laws currently in place to keep the rating agencies in line.
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GeoToronto
Nik Nak Paddy Wak, Still Ridin' Caddy-Laks
11:52 AM on 03/08/2011
Although I'm not a 100% up on the situation in Greece, but I do know that Credit rating companies have been objective, especially to companies that are paying them.
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afairview
cheap energy, the best stimulus
12:38 AM on 03/08/2011
" Credit ratings agencies have been blamed for failing to properly identify risks in the global economy ahead of the financial crisis, which led to the deepest recession since World War II and a crisis of confidence in bloated government finances, particularly in Europe"
According to Matt Taibi some of these credit rating agencies gave mortgage backed securities a rating before their due time. If I'm not mistaken there had to be a 3 year trial period, they were given a AAA rating in six months. Talk about failing to identify risks.
04:59 PM on 03/07/2011
And Mitt Romney says NO APOLOGY!

USA Rating agenices - once as good as gold!

How pitiful!
04:58 PM on 03/07/2011
Greece already sold alot of its resources and land to China

Its not that big!
11:31 AM on 03/08/2011
What do you mean? Do you have a certain information about this?
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
04:46 PM on 03/07/2011
not to mention that hunger strike that ,s going on in Greece!
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
04:13 PM on 03/07/2011
Merkel and Sarkozy are pushing Greece towards needed reform. Greece must change to become a globally competitive economy. The "cost of production" is a measure of a society's efficiency. The number includes food, housing, education, government overhead, etc. The current standard is set by China and India. In these countries, the cost of production is about $10 per worker per week. If a location does not compare, then commerce relocates.

It should be noted that the systems in China (Communism) and India (Caste) will probably prove incompatible with the current Greek quality of life. But on the positive, a vacation in a Greek island resort should get much less expensive in the future.
02:59 PM on 03/07/2011
""Having completely missed the build-up of risk that led to the global financial crisis in 2008, the rating agencies are now competing with each other to be the first to identify risks that will lead to the next crisis," the ministry said."

Well, actually, isn't that a good thing?
06:01 AM on 03/08/2011
It might be if they did so in general and impartially. But it seems to me that most of their press releases seem only to concern themselves with European nations and other competitors of the US. I mean, c'mon, all big banks are really AAA? All hedge funds? And running the $-printing-machines 24/7 at 120% capacity doesn't give doubts about the US?
Besides that, and this is more of a concern: Isn't that yet another attempt to let "investors" capitalize on sovereign nation's wealth? I mean, the mechanisms are clear and after such a rating decision, all those holding CDS make a nice profit while those (many central banks) who hold Greek bonds have losses. Not to mention the odd timing since a stress test for European banks is coming up for banks which - that's the discussion right now - might force them to calculate their Greek bonds not at face value but at market value. Certainly, American banks have no interest to see their European competitors face additional challenges, right?
Last but not least: What exactly are they trying to say with this rating decision? I mean, Greece is on a lifeline by their European partners. Effectively, they aren't acting/ borrowing on the financial markets and will most likely not (need to) do so for several years. It doesn't matter what rating they have right now. Which leads back to my second paragraph.
12:44 PM on 03/08/2011
BOA, WF, JPM all are not AAA. Even GE is AA.

The fact that Greece is on a lifeline to others would make it pretty risky. And countries have defaulted.

Maybe they are just getting religion...finally.
10:25 AM on 03/08/2011
Not if they identify phantom risks and instead create the next crisis.

The canary in teh coal mine only works if it actually detects gas. If it just falls asleep everytime it enters the mine shaft, no coal would ever be produced. Chicken Little's are just as destructive and bad as head in teh sand ostriches.
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BBackSoon
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02:54 PM on 03/07/2011
These are the same ratings agencies that were rating CBO's at AAA right before the fall? These are the same people that's explanation was 'Who could have seen that coming?'

I think I need to side with Greece here.
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Ngonyama
Major prolation, perfect mode
02:50 PM on 03/07/2011
Has anyone noticed that Greece now may be mentioned without extensive predictions of doom-and-gloom for the euro, the eurozone and the EU as a whole?

Perhaps those that would "pay off" American debts by "quantitative easing" (planet wide forgery by printing more green pieces of paper) and found the euro in the way of their plans have given up on the idea that the euro can be gotten rid of by speculating against it?

Twice they tried, first Greece then Ireland. Twice they failed: the euro simple bounced back after Germany got another export boost out of the whole charade....
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Miss Muffett
Don't worry about money - it will go away.
03:17 PM on 03/07/2011
Bingo!!
 
This also comes in the wake of Ahmajinijad (Iran's Pres. forgive the SP!) threatening to begin using the Euro as the preferred currency for international commodity [read:oil] exchange. And it's most certainly not the first, won't be the last time such a thing was mentioned by one oil-country leader or another. Hence, another reason why we're trying to get rid of the Euro. 
10:27 AM on 03/08/2011
The Europ will collapse under its own internecine weight. There is nothing anyone needs to do except sit back and watch.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
02:37 PM on 03/07/2011
Greece provided their population with all sorts of provided free government services, new government payroll jobs, increased and extended employment payments, and paid for all of these government expenses and benefits with "borrowed" funds?

The Greeks de-industrialized, stopped working, stopped generating national wealth, and decided to start deficit spending to mimic the US defifit spending financial operations that appeared to be very successful?

The USA will face similar consequences when working individuals in the wealth creating industrial nations will no longer purchase any of the freshly printed new paper US Treasury Bonds at the periodic US Federal Reserve (FED) auctions that are necessary to continue our US government deficit spending operations.
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Tom22602
What the hell is this?
02:48 PM on 03/07/2011
Some in this country want the US to become Greece. They resist any efforts to get government spending under control.

Then is that whole 90's thing of the service economy. How is that working out for us?
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Ngonyama
Major prolation, perfect mode
02:53 PM on 03/07/2011
Of course: the same subprime lenders that got Greece hooked also got the American middle class hooked on living outside their means: the big banks.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
04:28 PM on 03/07/2011
Why can't the USA borrow lots of money from the wealth creating industrial countries and then spend that money on all sorts of wonderful services for US citizens?
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
02:52 PM on 03/07/2011
So did all the Super Rich in Greece start sending jobs overseas while importing the products back in? Did the Greek CEO's pocket all the extra profits they made by not paying a living wage while never actually lowering prices?

What is the Corporate tax rate in Greece? Do they actually have to pay it?
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Tom22602
What the hell is this?
03:00 PM on 03/07/2011
Instead of asking all these boring questions, why not put Internet technology to use. There is something called a search engine.
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efmo
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03:18 PM on 03/07/2011
Actually there was a good article in, I think it was, Vanity Fair, about the tax situation in Greece. It's very interesting - (and I'm exaggerating slightly) everyone cheats, everyone knows everyone cheats and so the govt. has no money for commitments, but can't really do anything about it, it seems. Hence the need for the "austerity" measures.
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
12:23 PM on 03/07/2011
Buyer Beware has never been more important than when relying on someone with zero Accountability. Evidenced by Bush, too big to fail and Big Oil
12:12 PM on 03/07/2011
Should we believe the rating agencies after they failed so many times?
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Ngonyama
Major prolation, perfect mode
02:43 PM on 03/07/2011
Who rates the rating agencies?

Excellent question, lighningbolt!

Fanned
12:11 PM on 03/07/2011
The rating agencies have too much power and too little responsibility.  Their ratings can move an entire country's economy or break it instantly.  The rating agencies never face the consequences of being wrong, but the countries who suffer economic collapses do feel the effects of their mistakes.  Ratings should be carried out by elected governments, not by private corporations.
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efmo
Oh no, my micro-bio is empty!
03:19 PM on 03/07/2011
Except for the fact that folks like the Kochs have bought and paid for our government, unfortunately. I wouldn't trust their ratings either.
03:46 PM on 03/07/2011
If the ratings formulas and data are transparent, then everyone can verify the government's rating for accuracy.
05:47 AM on 03/08/2011
One of the reasons why I approved when the ECB board decided last year that ratings by US rating agencies would no longer necessarily apply for the bank's considerations.
I mean, if looked at in a positive way, I would say that the ECB staff can take risk assumptions/ calculations as well as the rating agencies. Even looked at negatively, I suppose they are as competent to roll a dice as Americans are.
barbra1971
Sherry Hunt my hero
11:46 AM on 03/07/2011
How is our rating this day's.