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NASA Disavows Scientist Richard Hoover's Claim Of Alien Life

Nasa Disavows Alient Life Claim

By SETH BORENSTEIN   03/ 8/11 09:17 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- The gaps and stringy fibers in these space rocks sure look like bacteria, and a NASA researcher has caused a stir with claims that they're fossils of alien life. But as NASA found 15 years ago, looks can be deceiving.

Top scientists in different disciplines immediately found pitfalls in a newly published examination of three meteorites that went viral on the Internet over the weekend. NASA and its top scientists disavowed the work by noon Monday.

Biologists said just because it looks as though the holes were made by bacteria doesn't make them fossils of extraterrestrial microbes. The meteorites could be riddled with Earthly contamination. And both astronomers and biologists complained that the study was not truly reviewed by peers.

There are questions about the credentials of the study's author, Richard Hoover. And the work appeared in an online journal that raises eyebrows because even its editor acknowledges it may have to shut down in June and that one reason for publishing the controversial claim was to help find a buyer.

"There's a lot of stuff there, but not a lot of science," said Rosie Redfield, a microbiologist at the University of British Columbia, who publicly dissected the paper over the weekend. "I looked at it and shuddered."

The Associated Press talked to a dozen scientists, and none of them agreed with the findings. There was none of the excitement that surrounded a similar claim that NASA announced with fanfare in 1996 – but was forced to back away from later – that a meteorite from Mars found in Antarctica showed evidence of alien life.

"There has been no one in the scientific community, certainly no one in the meteorite analysis community, that has supported these conclusions," NASA Astrobiology Institute Director Carl Pilcher said Monday of the latest work.

Hoover, of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., claims he found fossils that look like remnants of bacteria in a handful of meteorites. His research, published online Friday in the Journal of Cosmology, concludes these must have come from outer space. It is based on three specimens of a rare type of meteorite – thought to come from comets – found in France in 1806 and 1864 and Tanzania in 1938.

Hoover's pictures look like microscopic versions of flattened tubes and tangled strings.

Hoover didn't return phone calls or e-mails from the AP.

Rudy Schild, a Harvard astronomer and editor-in-chief of the journal, said the study was reviewed by scientists, but he wouldn't identify them. Schild said the idea was to garner attention and generate debate, which happened after it was first reported over the weekend by FoxNews.com.

"We thought the purpose of the exercise here is having it released and having it discussed," Schild told the AP. He acknowledged the journal's imminent demise was "a factor in play, but there are other factors as well" in the decision to publish Hoover's research.

The year-and-a-half-old journal champions a disputed theory that life started elsewhere in the universe and was seeded on Earth by asteroids and comets.

Schild said criticisms of Hoover's paper "are legitimate" but that he agrees with Hoover's conclusion.

Other scientists say Hoover, who has worked for NASA in solar physics but now bills himself as an astrobiologist, doesn't have the proper expertise. "Anyone can call himself an astrobiologist. That doesn't make it so," said Pilcher, the astrobiology institute director.

And while Hoover's paper in the journal lists him as a "Ph.D.," NASA's solar physics website does not mention a doctorate. A colleague of Hoover's said he acknowledges that he doesn't have the advanced degree. Schild said someone at the journal – he doesn't know who – may have inadvertently listed Hoover with the doctorate title.

Top planetary scientists, including those who study meteorites, are at a conference in Houston this week and this was the talk – albeit mostly in a can-you-believe-this-stuff way, said Harry "Hap" McSween, one of world's foremost experts in meteorites.

"I don't think anybody accepts this idea," McSween said. "Nobody thinks they are extraterrestrial."

McSween has studied one of the meteorites cited – the one that fell to France in 1864. He said it was in "atrocious" condition at a Paris Museum with noticeable contamination. There was a vein in the rock that hadn't been there in old photographs, a sign of creeping moisture. That makes sense because even NASA moon rocks, hermitically stored, have been contaminated with Earthly microbes, he said.

McSween and other scientists said they had hoped the public would ignore reports about the study, but they didn't. It was on the top of Yahoo News much of Monday.

"It looks like it's kind of viral," McSween said. "It's extraterrestrial life, that's why."

For biologist Redfield, it was just another case of a scientist who's not a biologist tinkering in a field he doesn't know.

One of the first rules for biologists is just because one thing looks like another doesn't mean the two things are the same, she said.

"These guys make some stupid announcement completely ignoring all the rules of biology and then get all the publicity," Redfield said.

For McSween and Redfield it's deja vu. McSween criticized the 1996 discovery, which had been announced by then-President Bill Clinton on the White House south lawn. Over the years, scientist after scientist chipped away at the basis of that Mars meteorite finding and now it's not generally accepted as proof of alien life.

And that study had stronger peer review and more supporting lines of evidence, Redfield and McSween said.

Seth Shostak, an astronomer who searches for intelligent alien life, desperately wanted to believe the reports. But when he read the Hoover study, he ended up disappointed.

"It looks very, very doubtful, which is a shame from several points of view," said Shostak, a senior scientist at the SETI Institute in California. "But that's the way science is. People make claims that often don't hold up. That's the nature of science."

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JDM73
male, 38, writer/draughtsman/ex-musician
05:38 AM on 03/10/2011
NASA and the author of the article try to make it sound as if Hoover is coming completely out of left field, but primitive extraterrestrial life forms arriving here on a meteorite is hardly a wacky fringe concept. The panspermia theory goes all the way back to the Greeks. Lord Kelvin was a proponent, and Francis Crick and Leslie Orgel hypothesized *directed* panspermia: i.e., life being sent to Earth deliberately from elsewhere. (Even a young Carl Sagan, well before anyone had heard the name "Erich von Daniken", entertained the possibility of extraterrestrial visitation to Earth in ancient times.)
Obviously, Hoover should recant if his claims can't be proven, but in a very real sense I think NASA and the scientific world are missing the point here. I often hear the question "why isn't the general population interested in science?" The answer is that you can't take the wonder and romance out of science and still expect just plain folks to care. Don't abandon the rigors of the scientific method, but allow the possibility of life on other worlds...of technologically advanced civilizations far, far away. People don't like to have their imaginations wedged in a vise.

Interesting story about the '96 Mars meteorite from, funnily enough, NASA's website:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/releases/2009/J09-030.html
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
10:52 PM on 04/13/2011
Wasn't it Upton Sinclair who said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understand­ing it!"?
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taurus58
political atheist on a mission from god
12:55 AM on 03/10/2011
N ever A S traight A nswer
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Bobbie Jean Pentecost
05:52 PM on 03/09/2011
Ahhhh. You see? THIS is why I choose science over nonsense like religion. Science knows it is not perfect, corrects itself when it is wrong, and BS doesn't last long on the scientific stage. It gives us answers and ways to understand our universe. Religion? Who's to say what's right and what's wrong? Everyone believes something different and no one actually has any proof. It just gives us more questions, no answers.
03:22 AM on 03/09/2011
From the same article, Hoover also invited skeptics to test his findings:

In order to satisfy the inevitable hoard of buzz-killing skeptics, Hoover’s study and evidence were made available to his peers in the scientific community in advance of the study’s publications, giving them a chance to thoroughly dissect his findings. Comments from those who decided to sift through the evidence will be published online, alongside the study.

“Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief. “No other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting, and never before in the history of science has the scientific community been given the opportunity to critically analyze an important research paper before it is published.”
03:21 AM on 03/09/2011
Actual findings by Richard Hoover. It's pretty credible:

(from http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife)

Aliens exist, and we have proof.

That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.) Hoover’s findings were published late Friday night in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover, who has spent more than 10 years studying meteorites around the world, told FoxNews.com in an interview. “This field of study has just barely been touched — because quite frankly, a great many scientist [sic] would say that this is impossible.”

Hoover discovered the fossils by breaking apart the CI1 meteorite, and analyzing the exposed rock with a scanning-electron microscope and a field emission electron-scanning microscope.

The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,” said Hoover. Some of the fossils, however, are quite odd. “There are some that are just very strange and don’t look like anything that I’ve been able to identify, and I’ve shown them to many other experts that have also come up stump.”
03:14 AM on 03/09/2011
It's amazing how many so-called scientists immediately jump to shoot down the high-probability of life in worlds other than ours. It's baffling.

Instead of jumping on the guy, why don't they start scouring over all the meteor, moon, etc. space material and look for similar signs of microbacterial life? This incident questions their credibility, not scientist Richard Hoover.
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WoodsideCraig
Author of the blog "The Weiler Psi"
11:54 PM on 03/09/2011
WHAT??? You mean that the skeptics might be so hardened in their viewpoints that they couldn't find life painted on the side of a barn? Scientists are the most level headed, objective people around. They could never be . . . hard headed . . . dogmatic . . . er, actually, yes they could.

You made some good points. Fanned.
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Josegoodtime
09:50 PM on 03/08/2011
This story may be fake it may be real, but one thing is sure you have to be closed minded to think that out of all the planets out there we are the only habitable one.
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AbsolutDemocrat
08:30 PM on 03/08/2011
I wonder what kind of parties they throw in the meteorite analysis community.
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
10:55 PM on 04/13/2011
They get paid very handsomely to keep you guessing. More research is needed.
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briarus42
06:25 PM on 03/08/2011
The people at NASA are an alien life form from the pompous extremis star system!
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califson
Love my country, ashamed of my government
06:22 PM on 03/08/2011
Just another silly story which is one of many attempts to prove the unprovable. Science fails again, but good try. You have to laugh at the original headlines that try so hard, but then eat crow..Even if life elsewhere in the universe is found, it would only show the power of the creator.
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The Right Never Are
Their micro-tent is empty
06:28 PM on 03/08/2011
The creator of the headline? In that case, you're correct.

Otherwise, superstitious drivel filtered through millenniums of cut n' paste folklore and the propaganda of oppressive regimes.
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
06:38 PM on 03/08/2011
lol...for a minute I thought you might be onto something..and then you threw in the "creator" thing and I realized you were talking out your behind.
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califson
Love my country, ashamed of my government
06:48 PM on 03/08/2011
Zilo, ITs 2011! Science in all its attempts can not come close to proof that life came in any other way but by creation, in fact its becoming down right scary for non believers how close science is getting to the face of God. They are trying to make 2 +2 equal 5, and it just does not work.
06:04 PM on 03/08/2011
WE are put a speck in the Universe.
06:00 PM on 03/08/2011
NASA is still trying to keep alien life in the dark.

Disclosure is coming.
10:52 AM on 03/09/2011
"Disclosure is coming": the refrain of the conspiracy theorist.
05:16 PM on 03/09/2011
I meant to say full disclosure...disclosure is already here to dumb i.nbred h.ick:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218#

not to mention hundreds of pilots and astronauts have also disclosed.
05:18 PM on 03/09/2011
What I meant to post is full disclosure­ because disclos­ure is already here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

Not to mention hundreds of pilots and astronauts have also disclosed seeing both alien craft and alien beings.
05:49 PM on 03/08/2011
WE are all in the Universe, All are ONE, in the Universe, we are not outside the Universe, but also depend on the Universe to exist. With out the Sun, we as humans earth all life would not exist. I do believe in aliens. We are just human spirits in a body form, like animals have their different body forms, stars have their own different body forms, the sun etc. But all in the Universe are  living beings, other wises all would die out. All in the Universe continue like human beings to evolve. All in the Universe serve one other to continue to exist. All revolves around the Sun. We just think all should have flesh, bodies like us human beings. The only thing in the whole Universe that lives in Chaos, are human beings.
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The Right Never Are
Their micro-tent is empty
05:37 PM on 03/08/2011
There's water on The Moon, Mars and Europa.

Ice all over space - Pluto, comets, etc.

Where there's water, there is life or there was life.

It's understandable why NASA would tamp down speculation until undeniable proof can be presented, but with that Damocles' sword of brutal funding cuts hanging overhead, if NASA has the biggest news in history to tell us, they should make with the 411 toot sweet.
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lincutious
The Understanding
06:09 PM on 03/08/2011
"Where there's water, there is life or there was life."
Liquid water to be more precise.
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Gamsman
Onetime religious conservative
05:36 PM on 03/08/2011
This is an example of the difference between science & religion. Everyone in the science world wants to find life out there, but if the evidence does not hold up they will not accept it. Religion...not so much.
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The Right Never Are
Their micro-tent is empty
05:48 PM on 03/08/2011
There'll be less religious fanatics once extraterrestrial life is confirmed.

Widespread existential panic leading to mass cult suicides in the name of Armageddon/The Rapture/End Of Days delusions.

After all, if there were a god, it'd be quite a bummer finding out it made others in its image for some folks.

Kinda like finding out your dad had a secret family in another town.
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Amishguy
I'm not really Amish.
06:04 PM on 03/08/2011
I think you are forgetting what kind of easily led sheep we are talking about here. They won't freak out or panic.

They will be fed a BS story by the same leaders that have been feeding them BS stories their entire lives. The story will explain or excuse what is found. Things will go on.

Do you really think the corporation that is organized religion is going let all their customers go? I don't think so.

Do you really think these people are smart enough and have enough independent thought to decide to leave the safety net that is their religion? Also doubtful.
05:54 PM on 03/08/2011
There is life out there full of life, we humans just think they all should look like us. The Sun is a living being, Moon, stars, comets etc etc. If not living, all would of died OUT. But continued to be nourished just like human beings, our bodies will return to dust, but spirits are eternal. A;ll living beings in the Universe would not exist without the other for all in the Universe serve one another, as the Sun serves us to exist. Just my thought only.
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The Right Never Are
Their micro-tent is empty
06:04 PM on 03/08/2011
Pot's awesome.

But yeah, we're probably not the only cosmic antfarm, even though there's no observer.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
07:40 PM on 03/08/2011
We're looking for other things like us because we don't have any kind of theory for what something not like us (ie not carbon, RNA based) would be like.  We have some vague ideas but as far as we know, carbon-based molecular replicators are the only game in town.

And in case you hadn't noticed, NASA spends a whole lot of time investigating the sun, moon and stars.   But no one holds press conferences to announce they may have discovered evidence of the sun's existence because we can all see it already.