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Wisconsin Protesters Refuse To Quit

Wisconsin Protests

TODD RICHMOND   03/12/11 06:55 PM ET   AP

MADISON, Wis. — Clogging the Wisconsin Capitol grounds and screaming angry chants, tens of thousands of undaunted pro-labor protesters descended on Madison again Saturday and vowed to focus on future elections now that contentious cuts to public worker union rights have become law.

Protests have rocked the Capitol almost every day since Gov. Scott Walker proposed taking nearly all collective bargaining rights away from public workers, but the largest came a day after the governor signed the measure into law. Madison Police estimated the crowd at 85,000 to 100,000 people – along with 50 tractors and one donkey – by late afternoon. No one was arrested.

Speakers delivered angry diatribes while the crowd carried signs comparing Walker to dictators and yelled thunderous chants of "this is what democracy looks like."

"This is so not the end," said protester Judy Gump, a 45-year-old English teacher at Madison Memorial High School. "This is what makes people more determined and makes them dig in."

Walker's signature on the measure capped a week of political maneuvering to end a bitter, month-long standoff that began when the state's 14 Democratic senators fled to Illinois in an ultimately futile attempt to block the legislation.

Throngs of protesters gathered Saturday outside a convention center where senators made their first public appearances in Madison since ending their self-imposed exile. Demonstrators treated the lawmakers like rock stars, yelling "Fab 14, our heroes!" and giddily snapping pictures.

All 14 Democrats later marched around the Capitol, trading chants of "thank you" with protesters who ringed the sidewalks. When the senators made their way to a stage, they promised to shift their energies toward recall drives already under way against eight of their GOP colleagues.

"Now ... we trade in our rally signs for clipboards and we take to the streets to recall the Republicans," Sen. Chris Larson of Milwaukee told the cheering crowd, "and in one year we recall the governor that refuses to listen."

Walker is not eligible to be recalled until he completes his first year in office in January 2012.

Eight of the Democrats also face recall efforts. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald issued a statement Saturday calling them the most shameful 14 people in the state.

"(Fleeing to Illinois) is an absolute insult to the hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites who are struggling to find a job, much less one they can run away from and go down to Illinois – with pay," Fitzgerald said.

Walker's plan has spurred a national debate over labor rights. Its passage is a key victory for Republicans who have targeted unions in efforts to cut government spending across the country. Democrats see it as a blatant attempt to weaken organized labor, one of their strongest campaign allies.

Labor leaders have promised to use the setback to fire up members and mount a major counterattack against Republicans at the ballot box in 2012.

"We're never going to give up," said Marilyn Rolfsmeyer, 56, who serves as the 300-student Argyle School District's only art teacher. "What part of it don't they understand? There's hope here. I feel it. You feel the energy, the intensity. Somebody's got to be out there feeling it, too."

Dozens of fist-pumping farmers drew cheers as they chugged around the Capitol square in tractors bearing signs with messages such as "planting the seeds for a big season of recalls."

Tod Pulvermacher, 33, of Bear Valley, towed a manure spreader carrying a sign that read, "Walker's bill belongs here."

"Farmers are working-class Americans," he said as the crowd cheered. "We work for a living as hard as anybody, and this is about all of us."

Walker has repeatedly argued that ending collective bargaining gives local governments much-needed flexibility to confront cuts in state aid necessary to fix Wisconsin's deficit, which is expected to grow to $3.6 billion deficit over two years.

The new law erases public workers' ability to collectively bargain anything except wages up to the rate of inflation. It also requires them to contribute more to their pensions and health care, changes that amount to an 8 percent pay cut. Police and firefighters are exempt.

The Senate Democrats had fled to deny Republicans, who hold a 19-14 Senate majority, the 20-member quorum needed to vote on measures that spend money. But GOP leaders worked around them Wednesday, calling a special committee to take spending items out of Walker's proposal.

The Senate passed it 18-1 minutes later. Assembly Republicans approved it the next day.

Democratic Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk has filed a lawsuit seeking to block the secretary of state from publishing the law, the last step before it takes effect. She argues the bill still contained fiscal items and that the committee meeting violated Wisconsin's open meeting law.

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Associated Press writer Dinesh Ramde contributed to this report.

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MADISON, Wis. — Clogging the Wisconsin Capitol grounds and screaming angry chants, tens of thousands of undaunted pro-labor protesters descended on Madison again Saturday and vowed to focus on f...
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11:19 AM on 03/31/2011
Gee, I sure wish I could collect food stamps, unemployment and not go to work and protest. My gues would be that the corrupt unions are paying the protesters. They supplied corrupt Doctors to write them fraudulent Excuses for their employers. How corrupt unions have gotten since Obama has been in office. Not surprising since TRUMPKA has visited the Whjite House more than the Secretary Of Defense. And, as TRUMPKA has said, "I talk to the President everyday." What, oh what, are the unions going to do in 2013 when a Republican is in the White House?
08:00 PM on 03/17/2011
To borrow a phrase from Ted Frier, at "They Gave Us A Republic" site: "Union Busting is about a permanent Republican majority, not balanced budgets!"
10:39 PM on 03/20/2011
And promoting unions and subsidizing them is all about a permanent Democratic majority
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mlaiuppa
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01:31 AM on 03/29/2011
Then why don't we have a permanent Democratic majority in every unionized state? And why haven't we had Democratic majorities up to this point?
11:24 AM on 03/31/2011
To borrow a phrase from Thomas Jefferson-----"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

And of course, "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.----Thomas Jefferson
07:57 PM on 03/17/2011
We might not be able to be there in person, but to all Wisconsinites, please know that people across the country support and applaud you!
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
08:47 PM on 03/20/2011
Yes we do! We're all in this together.
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10:33 PM on 03/20/2011
@beachgirlchix Did Census takers have to join a UNION to get and keep their LOB?
11:25 AM on 03/31/2011
No, Just the corrupt unions that "Want to spread the wealth around." How do I get a union job so I can go all over the country and protest. Is one of the qualifications that you have to be a lazy liberal?
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Historical facts are tuff on Republican­s.”
10:06 AM on 03/17/2011
Vote Democrat as if your life depended on it because it does

Those who are interested in April 5th elections in Wisconsin for Supreme Court can find info at this link

http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/results
11:27 AM on 03/31/2011
Yes, by all means vote Democratic. They have done such a wonderful job since 2006. Much of their success came from Nancy Pelosi who uttered these famous words, "WE WON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THE BILL UNTIL WE PASS IT." And then of course the genius statement from Obama, "I WILL CLOSE GITMO DURING MY FIRST TERM AS PRESIDENT." LOL LOL LOL
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05:03 AM on 03/16/2011
The wisconsin bill AB11 is here
http://wi.opengovernment.org/sessions/january-2011-special-session/bills/ab-11
A lot of propoganda is being put forth on this thread most of which is NOT IN THIS BILL.
As SGT friday said JUST THE FACTS PLEASE.
It does NOT prohibit the right to assemble !!!!
11:29 AM on 03/31/2011
Paul, you have to remember that all these genius's that are lying about the bill have lied most of their lives. That is why they are so good at it.
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11:03 PM on 03/15/2011
The 1,000+ teachers from Madison that turned in sick notes and went protesting are now being suspended. Teachers will not be paid for protesting. Minutes are being added to the day until the end of the year to make up for the days missed protesting.

It is certainly one's right to express their opinion and participate in protests. It is not a right to be paid to do so. To all those a few days ago on here claiming the teachers should be paid while protesting, apparently school boards do not agree with you.

The expectation to get paid while protesting is exactly what is wrong with the union mentality. It is not the taxpayer's obligation to pay up when you choose not to work.

There was remarkably little consideration about education or the children, just what's in it for the teachers. The thread about merit pay is overloading, since teachers apparently don't think they should be evaluated, unlike the rest of the world where one is rewarded on their efforts or skill.

Keep protesting and informing the public of all the things the union does for our school systems.
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03:58 AM on 03/16/2011
@jayk4444 Well said F&F for you
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N Rathke
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05:48 PM on 03/17/2011
On the contrary, teachers used the protest as a great teaching opportunity, in showing their students how important civic participation can be. In fact, high school students joined the protest at the Capitol on their own, because they appreciate their teachers!
And nobody has been suspended. Walker withdrew the pink slips--his usual tactic when he faces opposition.
08:30 PM on 03/17/2011
I know so many kids young and old who have become so involved in supporting this protest. Kids are interested in talking about politics and civil rights with their parents and teachers again. Does it get better than that. My 5 year old granddaughter said, "I think Walker is going to take away our rainbows." From the mouths of babes.
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03:29 PM on 03/15/2011
got to protest walker and co at the lincoln dinner this past sat. we attended the washburn rally for workers rights. the ppl up there are possibly more po'd than they are down here. here are a few mor new changes to look for:
scotty fitzgerald is still badmouthing the WI 14 since they returned. classy.
the 14 dems who fled are being held in contempt of the senate and not allowed to vote in comittee? how is this legal?
fitz and co are also going to make it so that you can only be recalled if you have been convicted of a felony.
also the GOP are trying to make a law that you cannot picket outside someones home. wow, how quickly they are attempting to k*// freedom of speech. REVOLT AMERICA!
beachgirlchix
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09:03 PM on 03/20/2011
Did they already ram through the law making prank calls punishable by death? :) What a bunch of Disaster Capitalist tools! Thanks for the update, and thanks so much for being such an American hero by protesting this BS. I was so jealous of y'all in Wisconsin, but now I hope we can have our own Movement here in the lone star state. Y'all rock!
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01:46 AM on 03/29/2011
Boy, are they going to be spending a lot of time in court over all of the lawsuits being brought against their attempts to corporatize the state of Wisconsin. St@l¡n would be so proud.
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02:16 PM on 03/15/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-jesse-jackson/dont-sleep-through-assaul_b_835967.html

Finally, someone is publishing a realistic estimate for the attendance at last Saturday's rally. Thank you Rev. Jackson, all of Wisconsin thanks you.
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05:56 PM on 03/15/2011
yes finally and we are not sleeping through this one
beachgirlchix
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09:04 PM on 03/20/2011
I know I'm wide awake.
beachgirlchix
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09:04 PM on 03/20/2011
And all of the World thanks Wisconsin! Go Badgers!!!
02:04 PM on 03/15/2011
In the up coming election 2012 I pray the people of this country vote their interest instead of racial politics like 2010. The Republicans are destroying the USA ,please help save her .
12:40 PM on 03/15/2011
Tony Schultz is on the ED Schu!tz radio show!!!
12:38 PM on 03/15/2011
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11:39 AM on 03/31/2011
Your right whyvoterepublican, "He is smokin, and I bet I know what he is smokin."
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What a long strange trip it's been
09:43 AM on 03/15/2011
These people sicken me. They think the 1st amendment is for everybody
12:26 PM on 03/15/2011
Heheh...yup!! How DARE they!!! :-)
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12:36 PM on 03/15/2011
If the legislation in Wisconsin sickens you, take a look at what's going on in Michigan.
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N Rathke
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05:50 PM on 03/17/2011
I mourn for Michigan. There is where democracy is truly dying. They have to move, mobilize, make noise, apply pressure.
beachgirlchix
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09:05 PM on 03/20/2011
I know, it is horrific. Michiganders, please continue to fight this. Let us know how we can support you besides the prayers/good thoughts and good energy we are already sending your way.
09:36 AM on 03/15/2011
Anyone know a website that covers important Political News?
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12:10 PM on 03/15/2011
BBC?
12:57 PM on 03/15/2011
Shame we have to go outside of the USA - but that's what it's gotten to.
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02:02 PM on 03/15/2011
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08:02 AM on 03/19/2011
Another good one
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09:04 AM on 03/15/2011
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The law of identity is not ad hominem. There is no attack involved in calling a spade a spade, a cat a cat, or a trawl a trawl.

It amazes me that those who rely on fallacy can make the [untrue] claim that not using one specific fallacy validates their remaining arguments.

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“Both. As abominable as these "so called christians­" are, freedom of speech was designed to protect speech we do not agree with. The christian community needs to come out and blast these i:d:i:o:t:s. The government needs to protect their right to speak.”

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09:17 AM on 03/15/2011
I also seem to have failed to avoid the fil ter. My colons were for naught.
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12:06 PM on 03/15/2011
Too...many....possible....jokes.....head....hurts!

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05:31 AM on 03/16/2011
@Onion Man We may not always agree but you are a gentleman
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10:36 AM on 03/16/2011
@Paul Andrews: I have reported you to HuffPost. *STOP* requesting access to my social pages.