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Haley Barbour Questions U.S. Presence In Afghanistan: 'What Is Our Mission?'


First Posted: 03/16/11 01:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) attempted to distinguish himself from his potential 2012 rivals on Tuesday night by endorsing cuts to defense spending and questioning the large U.S. presence in Afghanistan.

"What is our mission?" Barbour asked, according to Politico. "How many Al Qaeda are in Afghanistan? ... Is that a 100,000-man Army mission? I don't think our mission should be to think we're going to make Afghanistan an Ireland or an Italy" or a Western-style democracy.

Barbour made the remarks in a speech to the Scott County GOP in Quad Cities, Iowa on Tuesday. Earlier in the day he appealed to the state's party faithful at an event with the Iowa Federation of Republican Women.

On the issue of the budget, Barbour said, "Anybody who says you can't save money at the Pentagon has never been to the Pentagon. We can save money on defense and if we Republicans don't propose saving money on defense, we'll have no credibility on anything else."

Politico reports that when pressed by reporters after his speech, Barbour was unable to name any specific programs he would cut from the Pentagon's budget but said savings could be found across the board.

In November 2009, however, Barbour backed sending additional troops to Afghanistan. On NBC's "Meet the Press," Barbour said, "I think everybody in the country knows we need additional troops. And I will tell you now, for myself and I think a lot of Republicans, if the President will stand up, make the tough decision to send more troops, Republicans like me will stand up and say the President's doing the right thing. He doesn't have to worry about Republicans trying to politic this. If he stands up and does the right thing that the military's asked for, we will say good for you, Mr. President."

Barbour is not the first potential 2012 candidate to voice skepticism on the war. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is a long-time critic. In late February, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee told reporters he sees no "end game" in sight in Afghanistan and lacks confidence in Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

"My doubts about Afghanistan happen from being there in January 2006," he said. "And when I say my doubts I believe our military is capable of doing whatever they are assigned to do given the resources to do it. But I came away from that experience wondering: What does the end game look like here? I can't see a conclusion."

Republican leaders in Congress remain, at least publicly, relatively united in supporting the war in Afghanistan. While there are a few Republican lawmakers actively pressing their colleagues to explore alternatives, Barbour's stance is significant because he is an influential mainstream voice within the GOP, including as one of their leading strategists. He previously served as head of the Republican National Committee and the Republican Governors Association.

Foreign policy was essentially a non-issue in the 2010 elections, with most of the debate focused around the economy. But with growing numbers of Americans in both parties favoring withdrawal, it appears increasingly likely that the issue will play a more prominent role in 2012.

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WASHINGTON -- Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) attempted to distinguish himself from his potential 2012 rivals on Tuesday night by endorsing cuts to defense spending and questioning the large U.S. p...
WASHINGTON -- Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) attempted to distinguish himself from his potential 2012 rivals on Tuesday night by endorsing cuts to defense spending and questioning the large U.S. p...
 
 
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
01:06 PM on 03/20/2011
A few of the big politicians on both sides of the aisle are finally beginning to get it about Bush's wars, but the vast majority still support them, including Obama. Bush got what he wanted, war without end, as well as a massive hole in the budget that will insure it can never be balanced. The Republican strategy appears to be to make a really terrible mess and then blame the Democrats when they can't clean it up. Unfortunately, it looks like it's working.
12:02 AM on 03/18/2011
For the record, I over posted a couple nights ago and really I don't know anything about Haley Barbour until this.
It's just why do you all look at this republican/democrat thing so black and white?

Democrats are suddently tacitly approving the war. The war is wrong, the iraq war was wrong. Yes the republicans started it. The point is we have to end it now and frankly I don't think anybody, democrat or not, who supports these wars in any way are not "liberal" in the way the word "liberal" is supposed to be defined.

You could tax all the rich 10X more than you do right now and it would still be less money than what we spend on these b.s. wars.
Alot of the true democrats from the 60's/70's are rolling in their graves right now at you modern democrats who blindly follow the democratic party even if they are continuing awful wars.

Stop this partisan b.s. stand up for what is right!
marilyn 63
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11:39 PM on 03/17/2011
HALEY> yeah Iowa feels a lot like where im from whatcha got to eat up here? i usually eat a side of beef 3 or 4 chickens and a tub of potato salad for a snack (hee hee) just started my diet today gotta watch my weight for the presidency hee hee what? whats that you say? go home?. well hell then give me that side a beef and a coke and i am gone humf!!
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MoreFreedom
07:03 PM on 03/17/2011
How nice to see a Republican actually stating support for not meddling in foreign countries (and I hope he means it). That used to be the Republican plank, but not since the military industrial complex starting giving campaign cash to them. At least Ron Paul has been consistent on this.

Consider, our country spends as much on the military as the rest of the world combined, yet we've only 5% of the population. That means we should cut military spending by 90% to be in line with the rest of the world. Those accusing the USA of empire building, have these kind of facts to back them up. And it's a recruiting tool for Al Quaeda.
04:30 PM on 03/17/2011
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
12:11 AM on 03/18/2011
That I agree with. Hey Haley may not be a good guy, but he's right in this case.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
03:55 PM on 03/17/2011
oh, bull.
Pentagon saving would be easy as talking to ones self.
Budget items still include pencils, paper clips and staple.
What's a staple?

(I'm sixty...and being facetious)

The war is the expense right now. Running at $108 Billion a year, and not woth a stinking dime of money paid out.
We're buying crooked politicians from an unstable part of the world.
WHY do I call it unstable?
Because our own "experts" say that we are needed there to maintain a civilized nation as it grows to a Democracy. Bull!
We're there because Lieberman's and Dodd's state makes money hand over fist from war.
We're there because Haliburton (call them names all you want--they'll just cry all the way to the bank with YOUR money!) still makes a killing there (pun or no? Good question, that)
Business loves war.

I don't know why.

The first paragraphs of one of the most worthwhile books you'll ever read start out by describing old men, women and children robbing the weapons and armor of dead warriors after a great battle between the Taiko (Hideyoshi) and Ieyasu in the 1600s. Musashi. Eiji Yoshikawa wrote it, Charles S. Terry translated it. Great book!
End a senseless war for that...ending the war.
Not some fat, blubbermouth bigot from Mississippi's words, which aren't worth mush, anyway.

Musashi
Eiji Yoshikawa
(translated by Charles S. Terry)
12:12 AM on 03/18/2011
The real expenses are closer to 1 trillion a year than 108 billion.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
02:05 PM on 03/18/2011
I have no idea why they do this, but, it's what they do...
New enough to me.
They multiply the yearly by ten. That's the deficit they keep talking about.
$108 Billion a year,= $1.08 Trillion deficit.
And, even though the insurance paid policies don't get counted, the transportation costs of shipping a dead body DOES get charged, although rarely do we hear the GOP give any indication that lives lost are of any value whatsoever.

I took business classes...
back in 65.
So you can see I'm at a loss for exact knowledge.
Still, the out of control deficit is a red cape that the GOP AND Tea Party AND Democrats are waving around in the air like it has some significance to us and our freedom.

It's like te White stone of DC makes people forget that they work for US and NOT THEIR STINKING PARTIES!

oops... sorry.
I get carried away sometimes.

(usually by the guys in white coats and a butterfly net, but, I'll be oK)

(be even batter if they would legalize marijuana.)
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
01:52 PM on 03/17/2011
Decision Points: Who drove the economy into a ditch and left the nation unsafe? 9/11 – worst terrorist attack in American history – occurs during republican administration, and Haley is silent. Duplicitous republican sock-puppets lie to manipulate patriotism, invade Iraq, and Haley is silent. Bush manipulates American patriotism, tricks America into two wars, and Haley is silent.  Bush squanders Clinton surplus, triples deficit, and Haley is silent. Bush appoints horse trader to head FEMA, thousands die in the aftermath of Katrina, and Haley is silent. Bush guts Geneva Conventions, authorizes torture, and Haley is silent. Bush supports subprime mortgage derivatives, deregulates financial industry, American dances on the precipice of economic annihilation, and Haley is silent. Bush ignores Fourth Amendment, weakens Constitutional rights, authorizes warrantless wiretaps, and Haley is silent. Bush signs Prescription Drug Bill, largest unfunded give-away in history, and Haley is silent. Bush allows Osama to escape from Afghanistan, and Haley is silent. Bush signs NCLB legislation, the most intrusive, unfunded federal law in history, and Haley is quiet. Bush sends troops to war with no body amour, thousands die, and Haley is silent. Bush deregulation exposes millions to toxic products from China, and Haley is silent. Republican deregulation kills and injures hundreds of miners, and Haley is quiet. Staffed during the Bush Administration with Halliburton lackeys, acoustic safety “shut-off” switches are banned by the Minerals Management Service, McCain screams “drill, baby, drill,” largest preventable oil leak in history occurs, and Haley is silent. Hypocrisy!
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jimpager
11:11 AM on 03/17/2011
Wow. Looks like in 2012 we could have...

Haley Barbour, anti-war candidate, and the "man from the Klan" who thought the White Citizen's Councils and the KKK wern't so bad.

vs

President Barack Obama, pro-war candidate and the "man from Goldman Sachs" who
said Banksters, job outsourcers, and union-busters weren't so bad.

Remember when we used to choose between the "Best and The Brightest"?
marilyn 63
LEVEL ONE NETWORKER
11:44 PM on 03/17/2011
well one truth on Haley and one lie on Obama> FAIL
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jimpager
11:00 AM on 03/18/2011
I voted/contributed to the Obama campaign thinking Obama an antiwar liberal. He's neither anti-war nor very liberal. Did I lie?

Obama on war...

1. 50,000 toops in Iraq is NOT withdrawal
2. Tripled troops-Afghanistan
3. Paramilitary ops in Pakistan
4. Parammilitary ops in Yemen
5. Paramilitary ops in Somalia
6. Paramilitary ops in Libya? Soon to be overt military ops in Libya

Obama as the "Man from Goldman Sachs"...

In the administration that was gonna have no lobbyists...

More than 50 members of Obama Administration from Goldman Sachs
Also Chief of staff from Morgan Stanley

Check the article discussing Goldman "infestation" of the Obama Administration.

http://my.firedoglake.com/fflambeau/2010/04/21/with-the-obama-administration-infested-with-goldman-sachs-people-how-real-is-the-obamademocratic-attack-on-big-banks/

Obama as a job outsourcer...against outsourcing in the Ohio primary...outsourcing is not so bad when he goes to India as President.

Obama defending unions...

1) No promised streamlining of union voting procedures
2) Obama campaign..."I'll put on some comfy shoes and walk the picket lines with you". Obama as President... "............................................................................."

The silence was deafening.

Governor Walker was chasing the Wisconsin 14 to Illinois, chasing protestors from the state capital, illegally convening the legislature late at night without Democratic representation, and illegally steamrolling the bill through the Wisconsin Senate that broke the unions.

President Obama was holding a Motown party in the White House.

Fail is correct.
12:15 AM on 03/18/2011
Haley doesn't have a chance at winning. I didn't know he was that bad so I will stop posting here because I do not support that stuff. I hope I didn't give that impression.

But if Haley can oppose the war, why can't some democrats? I want to vote for someone anti-war, and Obama clearly isn't --- so please give me someone to vote for who is anti war and not a racist?

Any suggestions (Bernie sanders and Ron Paul are all I can think of)
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jimpager
11:15 AM on 03/18/2011
Ken,

I'm not sure WHO the Republicans can nominate. I agree about Barbour. Polls have him at 3%. Republicans are so radicalized internally by the Birch Society overthrowing the Republican party leadership in a Koch d'etat, that anyone who can win the Republican primaries probably can't win the general election. No one is stepping forward. Their bench is either incredibly radicalized (Sarah, Newt, etc) or incredibly dull (Romney, Pawlenty, etc). I don't think Republicans really want to govern, I think they want to lose elections, obstruct each and every democratic initiative, and collect bribes, uh donations and speakers fees, from their corporate buddies for doing so. Backbenching is easy...governing is hard work.
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jimpager
03:11 AM on 03/19/2011
Ken,

Possible choices for an anti-war candidate would be Feingold, Grayson, Warren, or Weiner as potential liberal challengers to President Obama in the Democratic primaries.
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Michael Lindley
American in Paris
03:12 AM on 03/17/2011
Independents are letting the parties know that voices of reason will get their votes so Haley about faces.
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
02:45 AM on 03/17/2011
Haley Boober breakes away from the republican pack of Hyenas on Afghanistan....and falls face first into the biggest pie eating contest of his life!!!! 5 Coconut Creams and 9 Pecan Pies down, and 27 more to go!!!!
 
Go Haley! Get Whaley!!! Win me daddy, win me daddy!!!!!!!!!!
 
:)  
11:48 PM on 03/16/2011
Barbour is the most coherent thinker the republicans have. Thats kid of like being the smartest kid on the short bus
09:46 PM on 03/16/2011
Could it be that all these Republican candidates see the handwriting on the wall: President in this day and age is a tricky, scary job, with the dice loaded against you!

They all seem to be committing political suicide soon after speculation makes them a candidate.........I guess that keeps them in the news and available for 2016 without looking like the chickens they are in 2012. By 2016, they'll have pretty much wrecked the economy, and taken us backwards at least one century. By then, the electorate may be looking for a change.

Here's to not forgetting that these cowards made 'pain for American's' a requirement for their personal future success.
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Barely Left of Pobedonostsev
09:18 PM on 03/16/2011
If either Palin or Barbour get nominated, the Dems should have an easy time making mincemeat of the Republican candidate.
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LeaderofMen
Bilingual former US Marine.
07:51 PM on 03/16/2011
A self-described Mississippi redneck with a drawl so heavy you nearly need an interpreter is not a contender for anything except in redneck backwoods Mississippi.
08:03 PM on 03/16/2011
well thats a well thoght out non bigoted response
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realmichaud
I am a secular nationalist.
02:52 PM on 03/17/2011
its not bigoted its funny, it relates to trying interpret Haley's CCC love and how it 'wasn't so bad' in 1960's south....what a joke
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John Prewett
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/
08:15 PM on 03/16/2011
Ever read "Best and Brightest" ? America has been brought to quagmires and brink of desctruction thanks to N.E. urban "elites" of such as Yale and Harvard as much or more than any other single group.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
04:35 PM on 03/17/2011
Not sure I understand your point, here.
The poke at bush Junior's and Kerry's school notwithstanding, one of the areas you point to, in New Haven (area population=about 750000) is a third of the population of the entire state of Mississippi.
In fact, just across the sound, there's Long Island, and now we're talking about three to four times the entire Mississippi population.

And I haven't even touched on Harvard, yet.

But I do remember the South as I was growing up. Most of the South; Georgia (where I was born), Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, South Carolina, Florida, even Southern Japan (the Old Man was a lifer in the Air Force)
Afterwords, I did my own traveling...Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, South Viet Nam (well thank God it was SOUTH!)
wait...getting off target.
Target is, four bathrooms.

Yeah...that's some area down there.
Four bathrooms...
Saw a lot of that.
Missed out on seeing the street hose downs.
Out West, they have Ho-downs, with bands and dancing and lots of fun and laughs, while in the South, they have hose downs.
Cops hosing down blacks and civil rights people.

Not really anything to brag about, I would think, and especially if you've lived there for some length of time. Now, as for the colleges you named?
They are attended by kids who are taught by professors who may or may not believe Barbour's lies... but those who do, teach them.
marilyn 63
LEVEL ONE NETWORKER
11:42 PM on 03/17/2011
yeah lets bring in more Bushes and Palins to dumb things up.
07:48 PM on 03/16/2011
Finally someone speaks about getting out of Afghanistan, Of course, it had to be a republican. A Democrat can never do it because they are considered wimps. I don't know why, but that is the way it is. Let's get out of 'Afghanistan!
06:56 AM on 03/17/2011
On the flip side, only Clinton can sign welfare reform. It seems the ones that lobby the most about a certain issue go silent when their own side wants to end it, which usually encompasses a political tradeoff.