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Vice President Biden Fires Up Union Activists: Organized Labor Keeps 'Barbarians From The Gate' (AUDIO)


First Posted: 03/17/11 11:17 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Biden gave the Obama administration's most forceful statement of solidarity with organized labor in its current battles around the nation on Thursday, encouraging activists to continue fighting for workers' rights.

"You guys built the middle class," said Biden in a virtual town hall conversation hosted by the AFL-CIO. "I would just emphasize what Hilda [Solis] said and say it slightly different: We don't see the value of collective bargaining, we see the absolute positive necessity of collective bargaining. Let's get something straight: The only people who have the capacity -- organizational capacity and muscle -- to keep, as they say, the barbarians from the gate, is organized labor. And make no mistake about it, the guys on the other team get it. They know if they cripple labor, the gate is open, man. The gate is wide open. And we know that too."

The e-mail announcement for the call went out to labor activists, including members of the growing advocacy group Working America, and it pitched the call as a conversation with 100,000 supporters about "Republican assaults on collective bargaining in at least a dozen states." AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis joined Biden on the call, where listeners were also allowed to ask questions (although Biden had to leave before that portion).

Biden's comments underscored the importance of labor not only in terms of workers' rights but also politically. He acknowledged the role that unions played in helping launch his political career, and he noted his personal identification with the activists as someone who grew up in the Rust Belt in Scranton, Penn.

"I've got to state the obvious," he said. "There's an old expression: 'You go home with them that brung you to the dance.' You guys all brought me to the dance 36 years ago in Delaware as a United States senator. You've been with me, and I've stayed with you."

Both Biden and Solis used the opportunity to promote what the Obama administration has done for this valuable constituency, such as restoring a level "playing field" at the Labor Department and the National Labor Relations Board upon taking office.

"Now look, I'm sure a lot of you out there saying, 'Gosh, why hasn't the President, why hasn't the Vice President -- why haven't they stopped these guys in the states? Why haven't we been able to do this?' Look folks. We are flat committed," Biden assured the listeners, bringing up the jobs created and retained by the Recovery Act -- many of which were for public workers such as teachers and firefighters.

"Now look. Here's the irony of all this. I find this ridiculous," said Biden later in the call, becoming increasingly passionate. "The very philosophy, the very conservative people who got us in this ditch, who created -- through their greed -- this orgy of focusing on the super wealthy and Wall Street without regulations, the very people who drove us into this ditch, are now the people using you guys as the scapegoats. This is what you call blaming the victim. The people of the neighborhoods we all grew up in and you guys live in, organized labor, they're the very people getting killed right now by this economy. And the audacity these guys that come along and say, 'Hey, this is the fault of collective bargaining' -- that is malarkey."

"I'm available, I'm here, I'm working with you, I wish I could be even more effective than we've been, but this is only the beginning of the fight," he ended.

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On Feb. 24, Biden also had on his public schedule a meeting with Solis and Trumka. In mid-February, Obama told a Wisconsin television station, "Some of what I've heard coming out of Wisconsin, where you're just making it harder for public employees to collectively bargain generally seems like more of an assault on unions. And I think it's very important for us to understand that public employees, they're our neighbors, they're our friends.”

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WASHINGTON -- Vice President Biden gave the Obama administration's most forceful statement of solidarity with organized labor in its current battles around the nation on Thursday, encouraging activist...
WASHINGTON -- Vice President Biden gave the Obama administration's most forceful statement of solidarity with organized labor in its current battles around the nation on Thursday, encouraging activist...
 
 
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TROOPER-X 06:04 AM on 03/18/2011
lol
In a "virtual town hall conversation" ? Thought these guys were supposed to march in the streets, hand in hand, coming to the aid of their most valuable fundraising machines?
 
Richard Trumka and Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis joined Biden on the call, where listeners were also allowed to ask questions (although Biden had to leave before that portion).
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912er
06:14 PM on 03/29/2011
Tool for the unions. Sad that our Vice Pres is injecting himself into this non issue.
08:56 AM on 03/26/2011
The GOP does not know it yet, but the backlash from The People is going to wash over them in
the next election. ...And thank goodness for Good Ol 'Joe Biden.
He's under rated as an asset to Democrats and a real team player while being a very good balance
to Barack's style. They're both smarter than their opponents, and, above all sensitive to The People.
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MadJayhawk
01:41 AM on 03/26/2011
Hilarious. The Vice President is campaigning for something federal workers that work for him do not have. How dumb can these guys be?

Public service unions make ZERO sense. Who is their boss? Who do they negotiate with? US!!!! The taxpayer. Whose money are they negotiating with? OUR MONEY!!!! Trade unions, good, needed. Public service unions? You make the call.

Police unions? Holy crap. Will they arrest other union members committing crimes? Not in WI apparently. Scary.
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newthinktank
No Opinions, Just FAQs
11:02 PM on 03/23/2011
Is this the first time in history that the vice president is more respected than the president. Obama is backing down and Biden is fighting back. Obama should be in Wisconsin! He should stand up for the working people. What a shame. What a joke. Please allow me to vote for a real democratic president in 2012.
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tlcpro
Work is not work when you love what you do.
10:30 AM on 03/21/2011
Way to go Joe! A man who knows what it is like in the trenches. It isn't easy being a single parent.
CornellDublier
Historical facts are tuff on Republican­s.”
07:51 AM on 03/20/2011
The Republipuppets alway try to make it about or Blame President Obama. The blame game ain't working. Look in the mirror if you want to see who you should be blaming.
12:19 AM on 03/20/2011
Boy what ever bush touchs falls apart.
12:17 AM on 03/20/2011
What about texas no unions that trickle down state.
14.7billion in debt
No unions to blame for that one republiscams.
How you like them apples.
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
09:17 PM on 03/20/2011
Well, it helps when citizens are required to pay taxes. Specifically corporate "citizens." We keep giving Radio Shack tax breaks as the company lays off another thousand employees. Every time the lease is up, that is another $10 million or so the taxpayers of Fort Worth have to eat to keep the corporation in town so the remaining 1200 employees won't lose their jobs and further diminish our tax base here. All the while Slick Rick Perry is sitting pretty in his $600,000 rental mansion, giving money from our taxpayer subsidized technology fund (more tax breaks to business, a.k.a. corporate socialism) to his campaign contributors. I am ready for a recall here, but Texas is probably the most masochistic and brainwashed state of them all.
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MadJayhawk
01:47 AM on 03/26/2011
Raise taxes on them all!!!! That will work. Then they will have to lay off another couple of thousand to pay for the taxes or move their factories to Mexico. Who needs them? We can just hire more government employees to create jobs.
11:51 PM on 03/19/2011
Thanks Joe for standing with the unions for collective bargaining! The republicans are attacking the financial regulations the dems put on wallstreet last year. Personally, I feel that wallstreet fatcats like gov Kasich of Ohio should be thrown into prison for ripping off the states pension funds, make those millionaires pay for the fraud they committed. Public state workers did nothing illegal, why should they have to pay for wallstreets fraud??
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
09:18 PM on 03/20/2011
PUT THEIR GREEDY A$$E$ IN JAIL! BLAME WALL STREET!
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LCdruid
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
02:55 PM on 03/19/2011
Biden making forceful speeches? Must've been St. Paddy's Day.
09:02 PM on 03/19/2011
Biden is known for his forceful speeches. In addition, the media like him becasue he is refreshing -- even when he gaffs.

What matters is that he's telling the direct truth: if not for unions, there would be no middle class. There would be 2 per cent wealthy, and We the 98 Per Cent at subsistence wages.
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
02:29 PM on 03/19/2011
"Just hang in there guys."
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brt929
02:18 PM on 03/19/2011
Somehow, the Re-thugs have tapped into this mentality of them vs. us; that those belonging to labor unions are overpaid and harming those of us that don't belong to unions.  This has been going on for years, and even those lucky enough to belong to a labor union buy into this lie.  I just read somewhere that 40% of union members vote Republican, talk about voting against your own best interests.
 
Unions need a strategy and a real message.  They will not win this fight if they only message union members, they need to let the rest of the working class know that they are part fighting for their rights too. 
 
They need a "Frank Luntz" of their own, because this assault has been raging for years, and they have a lot of time to make up for. 
 
If it were me, I think I would aggressively try to increase membership, and I would go after the NRTW and stop their constant spewing. 
 
 
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raphaelbonee
The snake was right "the gods lie"
01:39 PM on 03/19/2011
""Now look. Here's the irony of all this. I find this ridiculous," said Biden later in the call, becoming increasingly passionate. "The very philosophy, the very conservative people who got us in this ditch, who created -- through their greed -- this orgy of focusing on the super wealthy and Wall Street without regulations, the very people who drove us into this ditch, are now the people using you guys as the scapegoats. This is what you call blaming the victim. The people of the neighborhoods we all grew up in and you guys live in, organized labor, they're the very people getting killed right now by this economy. And the audacity these guys that come along and say, 'Hey, this is the fault of collective bargaining'"

Can I get an "amen" ... I said "can I get an amen" !!!
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
05:44 PM on 03/19/2011
Amen
01:20 PM on 03/20/2011
Not only that - you get: AMEN, BROTHER!!! Thanks.
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raphaelbonee
The snake was right "the gods lie"
01:36 PM on 03/19/2011
"We don't see the value of collective bargaining, we see the absolute positive necessity of collective bargaining. Let's get something straight: The only people who have the capacity -- organizational capacity and muscle -- to keep, as they say, the barbarians from the gate, is organized labor. And make no mistake about it, the guys on the other team get it. They know if they cripple labor, the gate is open, man. The gate is wide open. And we know that too.""

Tie off ... shirt sleeves rolled up(not shown in picture) ... Joe is in his element. This Joe Biden could be president one day.
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Tom Payned
Card carrying member of ACLU
02:47 PM on 03/19/2011
Joe Biden was my choice, sadly, with the way the primary system works, he was knocked out too early to bring his candidacy to larger states more representative of America as a whole.

I'm so tired of Iowa & New Hampshire, two small, and in my opinion, meaningless states as relating to the majority of Americans, deciding who become semi finalists in the primaries. Living on the west coast, which has a much larger and diverse population, pays out more in Federal Funds than we receive back, (Red States are welfare states sucking off of blue states, by and large) we, who pay more in taxes, should have a stronger say in who is going to represent us.

Obama was not my first choice, but by the time our primary rolled around, it was down to him & Hilary, and the "pundits" were saying Hilary could not mathematically win enough delegates to capture the nomination.

Joe is a man of the people. Yes, he's a gaffe machine, but I'd rather have a gaffe machine with passion and compassion, than the last candidates the Dems have had since 1992. And yes, I mean Clinton too.

Like Obama, Clinton lost the house, than the senate during his first term because neither kept their campaign promises, and the base fired up.

Biden/Warren 2012.
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
09:54 PM on 03/19/2011
I love it! Especially the Warren part! :)
01:25 PM on 03/20/2011
"Joe is a man of the people. Yes, he's a gaffe machine, but I'd rather have a gaffe machine with passion and compassion­, than the last candidates the Dems have had since 1992. And yes, I mean Clinton too."

Not only is he a man of passion and compassion with gaffes - he's real - and Lord knows, we need more of that!
09:08 PM on 03/19/2011
exactly how did the Democrats intend to fight or work on behalf of the unions right to collectively bargain, while not participating and then hiding in Illinois? then of course they lost completely, or I mean the unions lost..........
Now its a campaign issue, and publicity run. Are people serious?
Anyway I signed a petition here in New York for Eric Schneiderman (attorney general) that refuses to sign an Obama Administration piece of legislation which gives financial firms more power, while making it legal for them to run mortgages into the ground and not be held accountable. Remember all the complaints about banker bonuses-its the same crap.
No lie look it up, after feeding into this smoke and mirrors event.
Oprah wasn't there in Wisconsin in her new suit, just fresh from a cover magazine shoot, I knew there something wrong with that picture.
beachgirlchix
We Will Not Be Silent!
09:55 PM on 03/19/2011
Can you give us the name of the bill? I believe you, I would just like to know what to complain about Monday when I do my daily comment on the White House comment line.