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Warren Buffett, Bill Gates Try To Persuade India's Billionaires To Give Fortunes To Charity

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First Posted: 03/24/11 09:58 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:40 PM ET

NEW DELHI (By Alistair Scrutton and C.J. Kuncheria) - Two of the world's richest men, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, will meet the cream of India's rich on Thursday to tap the wealth of a new generation of billionaires for charity in the rapidly developing Asian giant after a similar visit to China.

The visit of two of the world's most generous philanthropists has sparked a renewed debate about the willingness of India's rich to part with their money to support the nation's hundreds of millions below the poverty line.

Gates, the founder of Microsoft and the world's second richest man, has set up a $37 billion foundation focused on health in developing countries, usually targeting common diseases with high mortality rates, such as malaria, polio and AIDS.

The 80-year-old Buffett, dubbed the "Oracle of Omaha" for his formidable investment decisions that have built up a $200 billion empire with Berkshire Hathaway Inc, has pledged to give 99 percent of his wealth to charitable causes.

Much of that money will go to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Two decades of economic boom have propelled India's industrialists and software moguls to the top table of the world's rich, with two in the top 10 of the Forbes list of the richest people this year.

Gates, arriving in the Indian capital after a visit to the poor northern state of Bihar, said while he had no "measurable outcome" in mind from the meeting, he hoped it would encourage India's richest to emulate other philanthropists.

"It's fair experience that as you get people together to talk about philanthropy, they will hear why other people have committed and agreed to what they're doing. It'll encourage them to do more," Gates told a news conference ahead of his meeting with the Indian billionaires.

The Indian billionaires include software czar Azim Premji, who in 2010 donated $2 billion for education and social projects, and G.M. Rao, the chairman of the GMR group who last week pledged $340 million in charity.

Separately, Buffett will also call on Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday.

In a country where more than 450 million people live in poverty, around 50 billionaires account for 20 percent of India's GDP. In 2010, there were six Indian industrialists on Forbes.com's list of the world's top 50 billionaires. With
that have come some fantastic displays of wealth, including a $1 billion, 27-storey private home built by Mukesh

Ambani of Reliance Industries in the country's financial capital Mumbai. Bentleys now mix with bullock carts and rickshaws on the streets of Indian cities.

But India's billionaires have not been as willing to loosen their purse strings as their American counterparts, according to a study by the consultancy Bain & Co said in 2010. Charitable giving in India probably totaled about $7.5 billion in 2009, according to the study by Bain & Co, equivalent to about 0.6 percent of the country's GDP. That percentage is higher than Brazil's 0.3 percent and rival China's 0.1 percent, but it falls way short of the 2.2 percent in the United States, and 1.3 percent in Britain, the report said. "Our crorepatis (billionaires) have a poor record of giving," India's NDTV said on its website. "They say they will turn up at the event to hear the wit and wisdom of the Oracle of Omaha -- but may send him back with empty pockets."

(Writing by Matthias Williams; Editing by Sugita Katyal)

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NEW DELHI (By Alistair Scrutton and C.J. Kuncheria) - Two of the world's richest men, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, will meet the cream of India's rich on Thursday to tap the wealth of a new gene...
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leorangerie
01:26 PM on 03/28/2011
You read lots of bashing about wealthy people in the pages of Huff Post. These two guys are just so clearly giving back that they deserve front page status, not back page.
03:52 PM on 03/27/2011
Ah the great West teaching the poor Eastern heathens and pagans how to give. Classic.
http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/op-ed/buffett-should-learn-our-ethos-of-giving/258790.html
03:03 PM on 03/27/2011
HOW ABOUT re-investing some of those Indian money back to the USA (FROM which jobs and works came from)>>>>

INDIA is the NUMBER ONE place where our high-paying and technology jobs go. Many of the unemployed Americans are connected to the Technology industry used by the other American industries -- e.g financial, etc.
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soyyosisoy
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01:23 AM on 03/27/2011
Good luck guys. Not even Mother Theresa could get these guys to fork up a few dollars for the poor. I've been to India and have worked with and for Indians, and sorry to say, they are not big on giving.
03:04 PM on 03/27/2011
but big on taking our jobs!!! WTF!!!
03:56 PM on 03/27/2011
On Mother Teresa: http://www.meteorbooks.com/
On Charity/giving. Ever heard about the concept of 'dana'? If not :http://hinduism.about.com/od/basics/ss/ten_niyamas_3.htm
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Dukedraven
12:21 AM on 03/27/2011
Personally, I don't know how billionaires can horde huge fortunes while so many people starve.
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soyyosisoy
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01:28 AM on 03/27/2011
When you grow up seeing poverty you get accustomed to it and it doesnt it affect you as much. Its sad but thats human nature.
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Dukedraven
11:01 PM on 03/27/2011
Sad but true.
01:17 AM on 03/26/2011
What is sprouting out of their heads?
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soyyosisoy
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01:29 AM on 03/27/2011
halos?
04:39 PM on 03/27/2011
Most definitely NOT, at least in Gate's case. Leave the hard-working teachers alone, Mr. Gates With No College Degree.
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Liberalibrarian
Need to know.
11:18 PM on 03/25/2011
I can't get past the plants growing out of their heads.
09:39 PM on 03/25/2011
People don't want charity. Pay the people that work for you, that build your products a fair wage thats the best way to spread your money around. Charity gets your name in the news makes you feel good but does little help the poor. Most are embarrassed and humiliated by charity.
11:33 PM on 03/25/2011
If charity is done right, it can have far reaching effects. Carnegie and Rockefeller understood this and their example set the foundation of modern philanthropy. Fair wages are good and all but charity must never be discounted either.
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soyyosisoy
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01:38 AM on 03/27/2011
Sadly in some cities in India begging is a career. Some even mutilate kids to make them cripple so they can beg in the streets and make a living.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1127056/The-real-Slumdog-Millionaires-Behind-cinema-fantasy-mafia-gangs-deliberately-crippling-children-profit.html
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dennis1943
whatever the voices in my head say.......
07:39 PM on 03/25/2011
They are like ours............not much enthusiasm for anything meaningful........like paying taxes.
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soyyosisoy
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01:33 AM on 03/27/2011
paying taxes is meaningful? Why not taking the money and giving it directly to someone who needs it? Some are constantly calling out rich people who in their opinion are not giving enough but cannot do the same with their own money. Give to the poor and dont look around to see who's seeing you. If feels great.
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Lancer 101
Ripe and ready to rebel.
04:57 PM on 03/25/2011
It would be nice if such rich and influential persons convinced more American millionaires to pay their fair share of taxes. Yea, right!
02:26 PM on 03/25/2011
Philanthropy should not just be practiced by the rich but by everyone who can afford to do so.....That means many of us who are fortunate enough to have everything thats needed and more....Indian economy has created many new millionaires and billionaires and they do have the added responsibility to share some of their wealth to improve the country and the people who directly or indirectly helped them get where they are.....
12:04 PM on 03/25/2011
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is not, nor has it ever been, a charity. No one puts 50+ Billion into a charity and it's ludicrous for the media to depict the foundation as a charity. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is not filling up food banks or putting shoes on children's feet. The foundation is a business/tax shelter/investment foundation and it has nothing to do with "charity". Bill Gates want's the worlds Billionaires to invest in the foundation/tax shelter for the continuation of business investments and profits. Charity.....please.
02:33 PM on 03/25/2011
Frankly I dont think anyone needs to donate 99% of their wealth for Tax benefits alone...I am not saying they get the benefit but my point is that the charity surely will outweigh the tax benefit in this case. We might all not agree with some of the business practices that Bill or Warren might have had in the past but they arent convicted of any crime.....they are trying to make an impact and the last I heard was that the impact was measurable (malaria eradication in Africa is a very good example)...So let them make the impact they can and we should make our own positive impact on this world in the same or different way as we like and can.
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LogicalMathMan
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03:05 PM on 03/25/2011
I believe your statements are without research or merit. The Foundation is not so much a tax shelter since most of the causes supported by it are in poor African nations, and in countries like India, Bangla Desh, Sri Lanka, and even in poorer parts of China. Most of the efforts have been to rid these nations of diseases that are extinct in industrialized countries, to provide pre-natal and child care, and to afford cheaper, generic drugs for AIDS patients.

In Africa alone, malaria and dengue fever have been curtailed by over 80% because of inexpensive drugs provided by the Gates Foundation. In India, where my sister is a doctor who is paid by the Gates Foundation (a pittance, IMO for her selflessness), AIDS patients are provided medicine, hospice and 24-hour care and oversight - in a nation where this is as much of a stigma as being an 'Untouchable'.

The Gates Foundation has collaborated with the Clinton Global Initiative and other local NGO's to assist farmers in optimizing their land's produce with better seeds and technology, and are also teaching these farmers the merits of growing crops year-round instead of seasonally. This, coupled with affording them equipment via micro-lending has helped family-owned farms to not just survive, but prosper.

I hope you inform yourself about the efforts of these magnanimous people, instead of parroting what you think should always be a selfish motive.
11:22 AM on 03/28/2011
The Gates foundation is also heavily invested in oil drilling in South Africa where the process is causing young children to suffer severe breathing problems and polluting the areas around the oil drilling operations. There are no environmental laws there to help protect the surrounding villages and populations. There are children and elderly in villages around the oil drilling operations suffering emphysema as well as other serious health problems directly related to the drilling operations. The Gates foundation supposedly divested themselves from the oil drilling operations but the damage was done and they walk away without helping the affected villages and people.
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11:45 AM on 03/25/2011
India's caste system has always produced resistance to aid for the poor. Sadly, in a country that has emerging wealth and prosperity to elevate its populace, this same caste system will continue to punish the poor while the new Rajahs maintain their grip on power and purse strings. Some things never change.
02:36 PM on 03/25/2011
May be thats the case but if you look at the overall trend, all the countries that have just got rich recently in last couple of decades are low on the charity index.....developed countries have been rich for quite sometime and have learned the value of earning and sharing.....may be (and I hope) countries like China and India are just going through the learning phase and will catch up to USA in charity.
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LogicalMathMan
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03:12 PM on 03/25/2011
I agree with your analysis, but for some key socio-economic differences between India and industrialized nations. India does not provide unemployment compensation or worker's compensation. There is no disability insurance, welfare or social security. At the state level there is no Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), no WIK programs (for the babies of unwed mothers). Consequently, most earners are reluctant to loosen their purse strings, since most earners have to look at all their earnings over the duration of their lives.

However, it is my hope that those who have money that will last a few generations, will be more charitable.
03:59 PM on 03/27/2011
Oh really? Please read about 'dana' as part of dharma sastras. Sadly it is so easy to comment about a country or anything for that matter.
11:07 AM on 03/25/2011
Problem with the rich in India, is many got there through corruption and greediness, so they aren't going to be the kind of people who donate to charity
11:48 PM on 03/25/2011
Some but not all. New rich like Azim Premji, Gautam Adani, Sameer Gehlaut, Sunil Mittal, Shiv Nadar, Dilip Shanghvi, Uday Kotak are following the example of Gates and Buffet in fortune and citizenship.
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12:44 AM on 03/25/2011
Hmmm... someone had a lot of fun with that picture. (The one that's on the front-page, not the cropped version at the top of the page.) These gentlemen might not have so much hair on top of their heads these days, but it sure is a funny-looking plant. . . ;-)