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Obama Discusses Pitfalls Of Standardized Tests At Town Hall

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ERICA WERNER   03/28/11 08:03 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama said Monday that students should take fewer standardized tests and school performance should be measured in other ways than just exam results. Too much testing makes education boring for kids, he said.

"Too often what we have been doing is using these tests to punish students or to, in some cases, punish schools," the president told students and parents at a town hall hosted by the Univision Spanish-language television network at Bell Multicultural High School in Washington, D.C.

Obama, who is pushing a rewrite of the nation's education law that would ease some of its rigid measurement tools, said policymakers should find a test that "everybody agrees makes sense" and administer it in less pressure-packed atmospheres, potentially every few years instead of annually.

At the same time, Obama said, schools should be judged on criteria other than student test performance, including attendance rate.

"One thing I never want to see happen is schools that are just teaching the test because then you're not learning about the world, you're not learning about different cultures, you're not learning about science, you're not learning about math," the president said. "All you're learning about is how to fill out a little bubble on an exam and little tricks that you need to do in order to take a test and that's not going to make education interesting."

"And young people do well in stuff that they're interested in," Obama said. "They're not going to do as well if it's boring."

The president endorsed the occasional administering of standardized tests to determine a "baseline" of student ability. He said his daughters Sasha, 9, and Malia, 12, recently took a standardized test that didn't require advance preparation. Instead, he said, it was just used as a tool to diagnose their strengths and weaknesses. The girls attend the private Sidwell Friends School in Washington.

Obama, who has been pushing his education agenda all month, has expressed concern that too many schools will be unable to meet annual proficiency standards under the No Child Left Behind law this year. The standards are aimed at getting 100 percent of students proficient in math, reading and science by 2014, a goal now widely seen as unrealistic.

The Obama administration has proposed replacing those standards with a less prescriptive requirement that by 2020 all students graduating from high school should be ready for college or a career.

Obama wants Congress to send him a rewrite of the 2001 law before the start of a new school year this fall. Although his education secretary, Arne Duncan, has been working hard with lawmakers of both parties, the deadline may be unrealistic with Congress focused on the budget and the economy. Congressional Republicans also look unwilling to sign off on Obama's plans to increase spending on education.

Latino students make up one in five of all students in prekindergarten through high school in the U.S. but lag far behind whites in educational attainment, with less than one in three graduating from high school, according to federal Education Department figures. Obama emphasized to his largely Hispanic audience the importance of staying in school and he noted that more and more jobs will require advanced degrees.

Obama also made a plug Monday for the use of technology in classrooms, revealing that he himself has an iPad.

He turned back a plea from one questioner to grant a special protected status to students who are in the country illegally in order to prevent them from getting deported. Obama said it wouldn't be appropriate because that status has traditionally been reserved for immigrants fleeing persecution or disaster.

The president did pledge to keep working to pass the Dream Act, which would give illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll in college or the military. The legislation passed the House but failed in the Senate in December; it now faces even longer odds in Congress with the House controlled by Republicans.

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Associated Press writers Stacy Anderson in Washington and Dorie Turner in Atlanta contributed to this report.

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01:30 PM on 05/01/2011
Get back to basics...reading, writing, and arithmetic! Students can achieve whatever goals they have if they have an excellent, solid foundation. Kids today can't even do simple adding, subtracting, multiplying, and dividing without their calculators! What happened to using your brains, the natural calculator that stimulates the thinking process? No wonder we are so low in education compared to other countries. It's time we went back to the basics and eliminated the standardized tests!
03:32 AM on 04/29/2011
In Florida tests will now be used to evaluate and fire teachers. Why can we not use the National Board for Professional Teaching standards to evaluate teachers? "NBCTs know how to assess the progress of individual students as well as the class as a whole." The $ spent on high stakes testing is a waste, the results are questionable and the time spent on it is ridiculous. Our kids have been testing for a month now (FCAT, FAIR, SRI etc). No wonder so many of them drop out. They learn more about what it takes to succeed on the football field than the classroom.
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02:18 PM on 04/17/2011
There is one question, and one question only: Has education improved since the introduction of high-stakes standardized tests? The only answer: no. Eliminate standardized tests, which are vestige of WWII conscription policies, antique, and unneeded, play to the business model of everything, the false premise the profit and loss are the only way to live.
02:05 PM on 04/04/2011
Umm...okay?

If you believe these tests are so bad, then why are your education policies and your own Department of Education giving them an increased presence in our school?
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Shelley Gordon
09:06 PM on 04/01/2011
Is this an April fools day joke?
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Shelley Gordon
09:04 PM on 04/01/2011
Well now I am confused. Does he have any idea what Arne Duncan is up to?
04:55 PM on 03/31/2011
The university student leaders of One World Youth Project are currently working at Bell Multicultural High School, the very High School that Obama held this speech, embodying the type of global learning that Obama speaks about.

Students from Georgetown University are linking Bell classrooms with high school classrooms in Kosovo and Qatar via a four-unit curriculum that guides students through cultural exchange, global awareness, community mapping, and service-learning.

Click below to view a short video of the awesome wired connection between Bell Multicultural High School and High Schools in Kosovo: a prime example of global learning-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcxOlMTbTJs
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09:01 AM on 04/01/2011
Thank you for the link! They must be doing something right, the kids sure seemed excited and motivated to be involved.
Thanks again,
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LearnMe
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01:58 PM on 03/31/2011
Now that we know—well, some of us always knew—the oversized role that compliance plays in masking true assessment of academic achievement, grades as the preferred measure of suitability for accelerated life may not make much sense. http://learnmeproject.com/2010/12/17/absolute-contingency/
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azsavage
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01:01 PM on 03/31/2011
Based on a life time spent dealing with criminals I can say without hesitation that if a person is placed in a situation where they are measured by only one standard - the test scores of their students- many will consider cheating, others will look for ways to cheat but will decide for good reasons or bad not to cheat, and a few will cheat believing they have no other alternative.

If you don't believe me consider the investigation in Washington D.C. where the wrong-to-right erasures on tests have prompted an investigation into cheating on educational tests. Or the remarkable jump in test scores in Arizona where 93 schools have such large increases in scores that the testers say there is a statistical improbability that the gains could be true. An investigation is being launched into cheating on the State AIMS test.

I firmly believe that testing and using the tests to determine if a teacher is given a raise or retained in his/her job is a not too subtle way of encouraging the teacher to cheat.
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JewishPhysician
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05:32 PM on 03/30/2011
Mr. Obama is correct and the over testing on a seemingly weekly basis or more of our children contributes to a more abbreviated curriculum as well as "stolen" hours of classroom instruction and interchange. I have posted to my own blog a lengthy discussion of my commentary on this topic at: http://sirhenryschimney.blogspot.com/2011/03/testing-in-educational-process-and-mr.html . I believe that the idea of testing is a useful measure of progress, but that said, we should be focusing on allowing our children to explore and discover more in the educational process rather than just rote academic acheivement of "milestones". This is essential to developing minds that are able to think on their own and to ensure that the educational process is one of personal and academic discovery rather than a mood that one must acquire to only pass an ongoing series of examinations. The need to rank and sort through students for further placement and opportunity is a smaller need than our nation has currently employed focus. We should be training the leaders and thinkers of tomorrow and not a series of an army of ants whose goal is to devour tests and sharpen their number 2 pencils. So if we might afford a more comprehensive and dare I say system that allows for the leadership of insight and innovation rather than rote teaching point structured curriculums, we will have more freedom of intelligent learning in our school systems. Just a thought.
09:46 AM on 03/31/2011
I liked your blog concerning this issue. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that the biggest obstacle to a more innovative way of teaching students are the Teachers Union and the central administration policies of a "Department of Education" and a "National Education Agency." What are your thoughts on that?
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JewishPhysician
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09:59 AM on 03/31/2011
I must say, I am not in the public education field myself so these governmental agencies and their policies and politics are not a topic that I am versed upon and I must add that I rarely have read the details of their activities in the articles that I have explored. So that said, I speak only as a person who has been a consumer of the educational process with hopes that my days will benefit the days of those in the tomorrow. Sorry. I am sure there may be politics at hand from both of these agencies and I am quite sure that neither is quite progressive, probably the Dept of Education lagging in this regard perhaps. But that said, if we have our President with a finger on the topic, something will get done. And perhaps this is a good reason to consider Mr. Obama deserves 2 terms in office.
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Kingbreaker
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11:26 AM on 03/30/2011
Fix the economy so one parent can stay at home with the kids until they hit grade school.

The rest is missing the point.
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Yam716
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03:23 PM on 03/31/2011
I agree. A friend and I were having a similar discussion. Either parent will do, but someone! Not saying having a household where both parents work is ineffective...
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cjaco
12:34 AM on 03/30/2011
Proof of Obama's empty words. He tells people what they want to hear, then does the polar opposite http://www.ed.gov/blog/2011/03/invitation-to-april-15-public-meeting-on-online-assessments/
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VA Jill
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01:02 PM on 03/29/2011
This is kind of a no-brainer. The first thing he should do is trash the foolish "No Child Left Behind" (aka "No Child Gets Ahead") law.
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LisaCACO
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11:26 AM on 03/29/2011
well now smack arne duncan and tell him what you've learned mr president.
11:16 AM on 03/29/2011
Off the mark:
Standardized tests flat line the learning environment. They destroy creativity and innovation in the class room.