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Tripoli Battle Looms As Libya Rebels Advance Through Gaddafi Hometown

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Reuters/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 03/28/11 03:09 AM ET Updated: 05/27/11 06:12 AM ET

(Reuters) - Outside the impenetrable walls of Muammar Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli, fuel shortages and endless queues are compounding an atmosphere of gloom in a city already worn out by weeks of conflict.

Rebel forces are advancing fast toward Gaddafi's biggest stronghold, and ordinary people in the capital -- regardless of their political views -- are fearful of what is to come.

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Tripoli lives to the sound of explosions and anti-aircraft gunfire as Western air strikes continue, and the new reality has emboldened some to express their frustrations more openly.

"The situation is getting worse and worse. I am a simple person. I don't know why," said Radwan, a man in his 40s, as he lined up to buy fuel at a petrol station in central Tripoli.

"Everything is hard. There is a problem with food, even with bread. You can't buy bread easily. I buy flour and I make my own bread. I am worried. There is a serious problem."

At one Tripoli filling station, hundreds of honking cars formed a queue of more than one kilometer long on Sunday. Exhausted motorists waited for hours to fill up their tanks.

A makeshift sign at another gas station said: "There is no petrol today. God knows when."

Most people waited patiently, the engines of their cars switched off. Some sat in the shade of large trees, smoking. One car ran out of petrol in the middle of a coastal motorway, and a group of passersby helped the driver push it along.

The picture was similar in other parts of Tripoli and nearby towns. Supply networks for basic goods have been disrupted by weeks of fighting. A refugee exodus out of Libya also means that bakeries do not have the manpower to make enough bread.

Libya is an OPEC oil exporter and has its own refineries, but the sector has been severely disrupted by the conflict. A lot of its oil refining infrastructure has been damaged, and production of oil and oil products has dropped sharply.

State TV has been assuring people that fuel reserves are sufficient, but an energy official admitted to Reuters last week Libya needed to import more supplies to deal with the shortages.

Seeking to topple Gaddafi and buoyed by Western air strikes, rebel forces have been pushing fast toward western Libya in past days, retaking land abandoned by the retreating army.

ANGRY

Perched on the Mediterranean coast and home to up to two million people, Tripoli is Libya's most heavily fortified city, where dissent is not tolerated by Gaddafi's feared militiamen.

Yet, some of its inhabitants were visibly angry when approached by journalists on Sunday.

"Television says Britain and France want to take away our oil, but I am standing here, I can't buy any petrol for my car," said one man lining up to buy petrol. "Where is the oil? What oil are they talking about?"

Another man, Sufiyah, rubbing his bloodshot eyes after a sleepless night of waiting in a petrol station queue, added: "I've been waiting since 4 a.m. There is no petrol. I am so tired. And yes, I am angry. A lot of people are."

The turmoil has also disrupted food supplies in the desert nation which depends on imports to cover domestic food demand.

Standing in line for rationed bread in one neighborhood, Fatima, a woman in her 20s, said it was particularly difficult to buy cooking oil, sugar and other refined products.

"Before it was normal but now there are shortages. It started with the crisis a month ago, and it's getting worse," said Fatima. She said that in her view prices for key food items like rice and flour had gone up by at least a third.

She said she was only allowed to buy one bagful of bread for her family per visit. Shops in Tripoli appear to be well stocked but many are closed.

The price of bread itself has changed little, people said, with shortages caused mainly by the exodus of migrant workers.

"Before there was a lot of bread, now there isn't. We have no workers now, so it's difficult to make enough bread," said Adil Mohamed Ali, a young man working at the bakery.

Ali Salim, a young taxi driver, said he did not know what to expect but blamed foreign countries for all the trouble.

"I have waited for four hours already. I have to do this every day. I am a taxi driver," he said. "No one knows what's next. Tomorrow it can all change. It's all because of the foreign countries who are interfering."

@ BreakingNews : Anti-Gadhafi fighters in Misurata say 28 people had died in the city in the past three days - Al Jazeera http://bit.ly/ecR130

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Gaddafi forces have reportedly captured the wife of Moussa Koussa, the former Foreign Minister who defected while in England. Reports the Telegraph:

The wife of the Libyan foreign minister who defected to Britain earlier this week has been seized by Colonel Gaddafi and is being interrogated by his "internal security" officials, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

She is thought to have been captured amid eyewitness reports of a fierce gunfight at Col Gaddafi's central Tripoli compound as the regime stepped in to stop further defections.

Yesterday, local residents recalled how the most fierce firefight yet seen in central Tripoli had erupted within hours of the regime confirming that the Foreign Minister had defected.

Read the entire report here.

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NBC's Ann Curry tweets that the U.S. will move to support missions only:

@ AnnCurry : NBCNews: US military will stop flying COMBAT missions over Libya, only SUPPORT missions incl reconnaissance, starting April 2.

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Channel Four correspondent Jonathan Rugman spoke with Libya's former Prime Minister Abdul Ati al-Obeidi, who said that Gaddafi is trying to set up talks to stop the killing. During the interview, Obeidi told Rugman, "We are trying to talk to the British, the French and the Americans to stop the killing of people. We are trying to find a mutual solution."

Watch a report from Channel Four on the Libya talks below:

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Despite complaints to the contrary, the U.S. Senate actually did support a no-fly zone over Libya. The AP reports:

Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

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Reuters reports:

@ Reuters : FLASH: Libyan government rejects rebels' conditions for ceasefire, says troops will not leave Libyan cities

Reuters adds:

"They are asking us to withdraw from our own cities. .... If this is not mad then I don't know what this is. We will not leave out cities," said Mussa Ibrahim, the government spokesman.

Read more here.

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Robert Haddick, writing at Foreign Policy, argues that the rebels need combat skills much more than they need heavy artillery. He writes:

On March 30, it was reported that CIA officers were in Libya with the rebels, making an assessment of their situation and possibly directing airstrikes in support of their fighters. We can gather from open sources much of what these intelligence officers are likely to report. As a military force, Libya's rebels are a disorganized rabble and seem incapable of preparing and holding defensive positions or maneuvering effectively against rudimentary enemy resistance. The rebels need boot camp, fundamental infantry training, and the development of some battlefield leaders, not a new stockpile of weapons.

Those Western leaders whose plan currently consists of hoping that Qaddafi will be spontaneously overthrown need to think again. Absent a Western invasion of the country, the rebel force is the only means of removing Qaddafi, and the rebels will need many months or even years of training before they are capable of defeating loyalist ground units and marching all the way to Tripoli.

Read the entire piece here.

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Gunfire has been reported in Gaddafi's compound. Reuters reports:

Sustained gunfire rang out near Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's heavily fortified compound in Tripoli on Friday and residents said they saw snipers on rooftops and pools of blood on the streets.

It was not clear what triggered long bursts of machinegun and automatic gunfire that echoed around the city center for about 20 minutes and stopped before dawn.

Cars were heard speeding along central Tripoli streets, their tires screeching on the asphalt. Distant shouting or chanting also was heard.

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A journalist who was picked up by Libyan security details his ordeal. Here's an excerpt of his story from Reuters:

We sat quietly. I turned to Chris, a London-based Canadian I had worked with in Iraq. I said I thought they would kill us.

A soldier opened the lock and the rear door swung open again. We looked down at the back of a station wagon which had been opened up to reveal some blankets. I thought they would perhaps drive us away. Maybe they were going to free us?

But a closer look showed feet poking under the blankets.

Soldiers then pulled aside the coverings and hauled three handcuffed young men up and in beside us. When we were locked in again, they told us they were Libyan university students.

Later, several soldiers came in. "Who are you?" one asked me. We are Reuters journalists, I said. He is our driver. We have permission. We were invited here by your government.

The soldier shook his head. "Bad time to be a journalist in Libya." Reporters were part of a foreign conspiracy against Libya, he said. But then he made it clear that if they decided we were not journalists but spies, that would be worse.

"If you tell us the truth, it should be fine, God willing. But if we catch you lying, oh we will show no mercy. None."

Read the rest here.

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Libyan rebels have made a deal to sell oil to Qatar. Reports the AP:

A plan to sell rebel-held oil to buy weapons and other supplies has been reached with Qatar, a rebel official said Friday, in another sign of deepening aid for Libya's opposition by the wealthy Gulf state after sending warplanes to help confront Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

It was not immediately clear when the possible oil sales could begin or how the arms would reach the rebel factions, but any potential revenue stream would be a significant lifeline for the militias and military defectors battling Gadhafi's superior forces.

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Gaddafi forces are attacking home in Misrata, according to rebels. Reuters reports:

Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are mounting an intense artillery bombardment of rebel-held Misrata and pro-Gaddafi troops are attacking shops and homes in the city center, a rebel spokesman said.

Misrata is the last big rebel stronghold in western Libya but after weeks of shelling and encirclement, government forces appear to be gradually loosening the rebels' hold on the city, despite Western air strikes on pro-Gaddafi targets there.

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The Associated Press reports:

Libya's rebels will agree to a cease-fire if Moammar Gadhafi pulls his military forces out of cities and allows peaceful protests against his regime, an opposition leader said Friday.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, head of the opposition's interim governing council based in Benghazi, said the rebels' condition for a cease-fire is "that the Gadhafi brigades and forces withdraw from inside and outside Libyan cities to give freedom to the Libyan people to choose and the world will see that they will choose freedom."

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Libyan rebels moved towards the key oil town of Brega on Friday, as conditions drifted towards a stalemate. Reuters reports:

Libyan rebels moved heavier weaponry toward the oil town of Brega on Friday and sought to marshal rag-tag units into a more disciplined force to regain momentum against Muammar Gaddafi's regular army.

While military action appeared to drift toward stalemate, coalition diplomatic efforts focused on breaking Gaddafi's hold on power in Tripoli. London urged Gaddafi loyalists to abandon him, following the defection of Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa.

Rebels said neither side could claim control of Brega, one of a string of oil towns along the Mediterranean coast that have been taken and retaken several times by each side in recent weeks. The insurgents have failed to hold gains, even when helped by Western air strikes.

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From Al Jazeera:

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle says Libya's crisis cannot be resolved through military means and all sides must get to work on a political resolution.

Westerwelle said on a visit to China that a first step must be a cease-fire that is heeded by Gaddafi.

More details here.

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BBC News reports that U.S. senators are drafting legislation that would authorize the use of force in Libya. The senators include John Kerry and John McCain.

The 1973 War Powers Act says US armed forces must start to withdraw after 60 days unless explicitly authorised to fight by Congress. In the case of Libya, that mark would fall on 20 May, Mr Kerry said.

More here.

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The National Journal reports that the U.S. may be on a slippery slope when it comes to the Libyan mission:

It’s an old question, but we’ve been through enough of these interventions now --from Vietnam to Kosovo to Afghanistan--to insist on asking it once again: Is the United States on a slippery slope in Libya, one that will lead to American military involvement on the ground? The evidence, on balance, is that under President Obama the U.S. presence is going to expand quickly—but covertly.

Read the full article here.

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Reuters reports that Libya's top oil official, Shokri Ghanem, has denied rumors that he left the country.

Al Jazeera television listed Ghanem as one the figures who had left Libya, but Ghanem said in a phone call, "This is not true, I am in my office and I will be on TV in a few minutes."

More here.

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BBC News reports that London Mayor Boris Johnson, a Conservative, offers his concerns about involvement in Libya:

"I am worried that what we may be doing inadvertently is entrenching support for the mad colonel... I do worry that if we get into a stalemate, if the rebels don't seem to be making the progress we hope they would make, then we should be brave enough to say to ourselves our policy isn't working."

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The New York Times reports that as a second top Libyan official, Ali Abdussalam el-Treki, defects from the Gaddafi government, fears mount within the regime.

The capital of Tripoli was alive with rumored defections on Thursday, with the prime minister and the speaker of Parliament, among other top figures, said at various times to be quitting the country. None of those reports could be verified. But the authorities were taking no chances, assigning guards to senior officials to assure they cannot leave, a former Libyan official said.

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BBC News reports that, according to U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen, international air strikes have been hampered by bad weather over the past few days.

According to AFP, Mullen says that they have not been able to see through the weather to identify targets. "And that has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east."

More here.

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Al Jazeera reporter Anita McNaught discusses the defections in Libya:

"We got word from sources outside of Tripoli that there were at least four senior figures from the Gadaffi administration who were perhaps in Tunisia, or certainly outside the country and not intending to go home. These were, last night as we understood it, the current head of the Intelligence Service, the Oil Minister (and I'll mark a question mark with that in a minute), the Secretary of the General People's Congress, and the Deputy Foreign Minister."

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BBC News reports on apparent threats in London by a pro-Gaddafi protestor:

Libyan state television has broadcast footage showing a pro-Gaddafi protestor in London yanking open his jacket and vowing to turn himself an "explosive bomb", a video on YouTube shows. The incident is said to have occurred at the protest near the Foreign Office in Whitehall on 29 March. In the clip, which has been circulated widely on social media, the man refers to anti-Gaddafi protestors as "traitors and rats", and exhorts Libyans to "return to the Koran."

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The Guardian reports that Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, has traveled to London for confidential talks with British officials.

It is suggested that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy. There is speculation that Gaddafi's sons, namely Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are looking for a way out.

Although he has little public profile in either Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam.

According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail has represented the Libyan government in arms purchase negotiations and acted as an interlocutor on military and political issues.

"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.

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The Associated Press/Huffington Post report:

Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan continued his defense of embattled Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi during a press conference in Chicago Thursday, and slammed the United States' decision to get involved in the conflict.

The 78-year-old leader of the Chicago-based organization spoke at Mosque Maryam, the Nation of Islam headquarters, according to the Chicago Tribune.

"It is a terrible thing for me to hear my brother called all these ugly and filthy names when I can't recognize him as that," Farrakhan said of Gaddafi, according to the Tribune. "Even though the current tide is moving against him ... how can I refuse to raise my voice in his defense? Why would I back down from those who have given so much."

Farrakhan has publicly defended Gaddafi a number of times since the Libyan uprising began. He reportedly visited the Libyan leader in the 1980s, and told attendees of a Nation of Islam convention in February that the United States should stay out of Libya's affairs.

Full report here.

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Breaking News reports on Twitter that according to the UK Independent, Britain is in talks with ten more Gaddafi officials about possible defection.

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BBC News provides the account of a witness in Tripoli.

According to the witness, any anti-government dissidents who spoke out publicly were deemed by officials as mentally ill and thus detained indefinitely. Because of this, the witness is not surprised that Iman al-Obeidi was immediately described as mentally ill last week.

She is not the first case of rape we have heard of here.

I have heard of two other cases in recent weeks. One of them was of a Moroccan housekeeper who was left behind by her employers as they fled to a safe house because half their family members had been detained.

The story that circulated through word-of-mouth was that security forces stormed the house she was staying in with the intention of detaining the rest of the family. Finding her alone there instead, they raped her.

Read the full account here.

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AP reports:

A top Libyan diplomat now supporting the opposition says most high-rank Libyan officials are trying to defect but are under tight security and having difficulty leaving the country.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador, told The Associated Press on Thursday that Libya's U.N. Mission, which now totally supports the opposition, knew two days in advance that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa planned to defect.

"This is a big blow to the regime," Dabbashi said.

He said the mission had been waiting for about 10 days for Ali Abdessalam Treki, a former foreign minister and U.N. General Assembly president named by Moammar Gadhafi to be the new U.N. ambassador, to defect. Treki announced his defection Thursday in Cairo.

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Libya's Transitional National Council has released a statement on counter-terrorism. The council says that it condemns and will combat all forms of terrorism.

Regarding al-Qaeda, the council states:

It emphasizes also its full commitment to the implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions on Counter-Terrorism, including the resolutions on the Sanctions concerning al-Qaeda and Taliban, with the full commitment to all measures and sanctions concerning any individual or entity associated with al-Qaeda and Taliban as determined by the Sanctions Committee.

The council pledges to help the United Nations and cooperate with it's counter-terrorism task forces.

Read the full statement here.

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HuffPost's Saki Knafo reports:

Earlier this week, rebel forces in Libya fought their way to the outskirts of Sirte, a seafront city about the size of Tallahassee. The day before, pushing westward along the coast from Ajdabiya, they'd recaptured the oil towns of Brega and Ras Lanuf -- Sirte, experts said, was the last major obstacle standing in the rebels' path to the capital city of Tripoli.

Sirte. Before Sunday, few outside Libya had heard of it. Now it's being portrayed as the key to Libya's hopes for democracy, the fulcrum on which the nation's fate would turn. Its importance can be explained partly by location, its proximity to the capital. But it mattered for other reasons, too, reasons that reveal a lot about a conflict with complexities outsiders are only beginning to grasp.

Read the full story here.

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According to The New York Times, U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague denies that Moussa Koussa was offered any immunity to lure him to leave Gaddafi's regime. Hague reports that he is voluntarily speaking with British officials.

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, said on March 3 that he would investigate “alleged crimes against humanity committed in Libya since 15 February, as peaceful demonstrators were attacked by security forces.” He placed Mr. Koussa second after Colonel Qaddafi on a list of “some individuals with formal or de facto authority, who commanded and had control over the forces that allegedly committed the crimes.”

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John Galt IV
Esse quam videri
08:58 PM on 03/28/2011
Reagan was the greatest; obama not so much.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
09:09 PM on 03/28/2011
If congress didn't believe Reagan was stupid, he would have been impeached in 1987.
BraveWarrior
The truth will set you free, like it or not
06:45 PM on 03/28/2011
While few lack support for protecting the unarmed civilians-few question the slaughter of the Libya army members. A small minority of troops are paid mercenaries. The bulk are likely poor conscripts, who have no voice on the service or mission. Any soldiers or policemen who refuse to protect the regime, the government that they work for risk instant execution for refusing orders. Failure to follow orders can be described as treason. Killing these poor tools is much different than killing protesters. Bomb the factories, bomb the companies, bomb the areas occupied by the rich and powerful cronies. Bomb the generals, the high command-living in rich, protected compounds. Those are legitimate targets. Those would break the back of the Kaddafi regime. If you believe that bombing victims will gain credibility on the Arab street, you are mistaken. If you think that the world doesn't see our hypocrisy-with our autocratic allies, think again. The people of Yemen, Bahrain, Gaza and Saudi Arabia deserve equal protection from countries who we have armed. Killing the privates, while generals get to stash the countries' wealth in Swiss banks, and Abu Dhabi condos, in planning their escape from their crimes against humanity.
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Three Strikes And You're Not Out!
05:51 PM on 03/28/2011
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"Television says Britain and France want to take away our oil, but I am standing here, I can't buy any petrol for my car," said one man lining up to buy petrol. "Where is the oil? What oil are they talking about?"

Another man, Sufiyah, rubbing his bloodshot eyes after a sleepless night of waiting in a petrol station queue, added: "I've been waiting since 4 a.m. There is no petrol. I am so tired. And yes, I am angry. A lot of people are."
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Mr MOTO
Three Strikes And You're Not Out!
05:49 PM on 03/28/2011
What happens when Armed Anti Gadaffi Civilians threaten Unarmend Pro Gaddafi Civilians?
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06:09 PM on 03/28/2011
...ill tell you what... nobody gonna report that massacre...
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Mr MOTO
Three Strikes And You're Not Out!
06:12 PM on 03/28/2011
We'll never know until, perhaps, we see them cheering at the next Man Caused Disaster and chanting 'Death To America'
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WarrenPease
Your interests are special, too.
05:23 PM on 03/28/2011
The men in the photo look like an Egyptian version of the Village People.
04:56 PM on 03/28/2011
aiding our enemies in a time of war is treason. with baraks intervention in Libya and supporting radical Muslims who intend to do us harm are grounds for baraks removal. even old Joe Biden has given numerous speeches outlining what his role would be if any American president did what barak has done. He has said that he would dedicate his career to impeaching the president so Joe time to get started
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PurpleTomato
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05:02 PM on 03/28/2011
The Presidents name is Barack Obama.Please show some respect for the office.
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06:11 PM on 03/28/2011
...he would use CAPITALS if the man in question deserved it....
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Mr MOTO
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06:27 PM on 03/28/2011
Perhaps you and I do not agree on much, but I am with you on that one. As long as it goes both ways when talking about other Presidents or Statesmen.
04:44 PM on 03/28/2011
How can you believe everything thats going on, the Rebels lie and kill just like the government, It was not ok for Lybians to kill Lybians, but its ok to kill them from the sky, of course his army is weaking, not from the Rebels but from bombs out of the sky, what next Syria, Jordan, no matter how much blood and money we spend on them both sides will still hate us, you think you killing only bad guys from the sky, I bet a lot of the military you are killing were repected in their commnunty, did things right within the law, and raise families, now we come dropping bombs down on them because they wanted to serve their country, and keep the peace. And we don't even know who we are killing, Al Queada is now welcome in Lybia.
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04:37 PM on 03/28/2011
A liberal war is just like any other war. This one jst belongs to the liberals.
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naschkatze
A free man creates himself.
04:53 PM on 03/28/2011
F & F
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Mr MOTO
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06:27 PM on 03/28/2011
Still smells like Napalm in the morning ...
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naschkatze
A free man creates himself.
04:19 PM on 03/28/2011
"Rape as a tool of war' is completely out of the Clintons' playbook on Kosovo. Do you seriously think that Gaddafi's side would be the only one raping women while the 'rebel' side (with the same cultural attitudes towards women) would be treating every woman with kid gloves? Yes, just like the Serbs were using rape as a tool and the Albanians never. It's pure propaganda to demonize one side and make the other look like babes in the woods. Which 'side' raped Lara Logan in Egypt?
04:52 PM on 03/28/2011
Good point Naschktze, we had no business getting involved, I'm not saying the lady is lying, but if they did all that and are so brutal, wouldn't they most likey had killed her. It a big propaganda to make Gaddafi's military look like thugs, while the Rebles are the darling angels, I really wish we hadn't done that, the more the middle east destablzie, the more likey Al Queda in moving in to take
over, Isreal should be worried all the unstable governments popping up, well at leadt the Isrealies
will do their intellegence first before going in blind.
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naschkatze
A free man creates himself.
04:53 PM on 03/28/2011
I agree with you too.
04:59 PM on 03/28/2011
To most of the world there are "no rules of war". A friend of mine was in Okinawa around 1950 and was speaking with the locals (bar girls) and was told that the local populace thought and was prepared for the american Army to come and rape and pillage as their right. They knew their troops would do it. On the other hand, I knew a Greek who told me that the German Army hung an Italian soldier (their ally) for raping a local Greek girl. It depends on the culture. Neither side in this conflict has a strong chain of command and live in a part of the world where rape and pillage are the spoils of the victors. We'd best be prepared to read of the atrocities of the Rebels too.
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03:53 PM on 03/28/2011
Looks like Tripoli is starting to run short of everyday essentials and with that their loyalty to their
benefactor. Forget hearts and minds;its stomachs.
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CoronaDischarge
Fired Up! Ready to go!
03:04 PM on 03/28/2011
Such a powerful image:

"The situation is getting worse and worse. I am a simple person. I don't know why," said Radwan, a man in his 40s, as he lined up to buy fuel at a petrol station in central Tripoli."
01:48 PM on 03/28/2011
I'm glad we didn't have to enter a third war, and instead are aiding the revolution with kinetic sexybombs!
01:43 PM on 03/28/2011
When are they going to bring out the roses?
01:03 PM on 03/28/2011
Sadly raping women as an act of war is nothing new... The American military is just as guilty of the same atrocities!
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06:25 PM on 03/28/2011
hey... cutting fingers off dead bodies and keeping them as trophies... its all par for the course...
11:56 AM on 03/28/2011
Wow did you know soldiers are raping women systematically in the Congo for decades, and all over conflict areas in Africa. Do you know why there is a media blackout in Iraq about our american troops? Americans have lost their humanity, using all kinds of illogical arguments to justify killing innocent civilians
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06:26 PM on 03/28/2011
...yet for some bizarre reasone you never read about it in huffpost....
BraveWarrior
The truth will set you free, like it or not
07:02 PM on 03/28/2011
Thousands of untested rape kits sit in evidence rooms across our country. Thousands of our female soldiers are raped without investigations, prosecutions or consequences. Even the lowliest slave can slap his wife or mate around. Perhaps we have pursued our agenda incorrectly. Perhaps if women had the human and civil rights we want for everyone, it would create the world we long for. As a minority person, I can feel their pain. They liberation is the only salvation for mankind.