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With Uncertainty Over Wisc. Union Bill, Schools Hold Off On Teacher Contracts

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SCOTT BAUER   03/28/11 11:17 PM ET   AP

MADISON, Wis. — Gov. Scott Walker's administration took steps Monday to adjust state workers' paychecks to reflect a new collective bargaining law, while the state Justice Department asked a court to agree the law was in effect and stop cases related to blocking its implementation.

Meanwhile, the Wisconsin school board association advised districts to hold off on any more contract talks given the ongoing uncertainty over whether the law is in effect. Many school districts, counties and municipalities had been rushing to reach deals before the law that takes away nearly all public employees' bargaining rights kicked in.

Republican lawmakers pushed through passage of the law earlier this month despite massive protests that drew up to 85,000 people to the state Capitol and a boycott by Democratic state senators. Opponents immediately filed a series of lawsuits, and a hearing on one was scheduled Tuesday. The judge in that case had issued a restraining order barring Democratic Secretary of State Doug La Follette from publishing the law, typically the last step before it takes effect.

But at the request of a Republican Senate leader, the nonpartisan Legislative Reference Bureau posted the law on the Legislature's website Friday. Republican Gov. Scott Walker's administration and the Justice Department led by Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen said the posting put the law into effect Saturday and work to implement it would begin immediately.

Along with removing most of public employees' collective bargaining rights, the new law requires them to pay more for their health insurance and pensions, which amounts to an 8 percent pay cut.

Walker's top aide Mike Huebsch said the administration was preparing a computer program to take out the new deductions and stop the deduction of union dues on paychecks state workers will receive April 21. The Department of Administration would stop that work if a court determined the law didn't take effect Saturday, Huebsch said.

Also Monday, the state Department of Justice asked permission to withdraw its appeal of the restraining order barring La Follette from publishing the law. It said the order is now moot since the law was enacted without the secretary of state's involvement.

But La Follette, the head of the office that posted the law, the Madison city attorney and others maintained it is not in effect until the secretary of state acts.

Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne, a Democrat, filed briefs Monday evening asking the judge for just such a declaration on Tuesday. Ozanne argues the secretary of state and the reference bureau work in tandem to publish laws. The secretary of state sets the publication date and the bureau executes publication on that day, he contends.

La Follette had set March 25 as the day of publication, but notified the bureau he had rescinded that date after the judge issued the restraining order.

"Mere electronic posting, absent the other steps, particularly the involvement of the secretary of state .... is itself meaningless and has no legal effect," Ozanne wrote.

Given the difference of opinions, the Wisconsin Association of School Boards told districts that are still negotiating with teachers not to take any official action until the courts resolve the dispute.

"Because we have a difference of opinion within the state administration, the safest place to be is to not enter an agreement at the present time," said Bob Butler, an attorney for the school boards association. "I'm very hesitant to tell someone to go out and do something a portion of the state is telling you not to do."

Any deals reached since Saturday could later be challenged if that turns out to have been the effective date of the law, he said.

Butler said he thought as many as 150 of the state's 424 school districts either extended their current contracts or reached new deals before Saturday. About 200 took no action, and an additional 75 or so were still considering what to do, including some that were close to a deal before Friday's unexpected action, he said.

At least two districts – Waunakee and Belleville – signed agreements last week, he said.

At least one school district canceled a Monday night meeting scheduled to talk about a new teacher contract, saying it didn't want to act with uncertainty reigning about the state of the law.

Port Washington-Saukville School Board President Patty Ruth said in a news release that going forward given the circumstances "would create significant risks for our district, all of which can be avoided if we cancel the meeting until the courts have rendered their decisions on the various legal questions."

Dan Thompson, executive director of the League of Wisconsin Municipalities, said he thought many communities that wanted to reach labor agreements before the law took effect did so before Saturday. He said others have chosen to hold on negotiating new contracts until they had a clearer sense how they would be affected under Walker's pending two-year budget plan.

Walker has proposed more than $1 billion in cuts to schools, counties and local governments in his budget that would take effect in July. He has argued union concessions are needed to help those affected make up for his proposed aid cuts.

A court hearing remains scheduled for Tuesday on a lawsuit filed by Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne, who claims the state open meetings law was violated the night the Senate passed the bill. An appeals court had asked the Wisconsin Supreme Court to take up that case after the state appealed the district court judge's temporary restraining order.

But Monday, the Justice Department sought to withdraw its appeal and cancel the hearing on the grounds it was moot after the law was published. The state Supreme Court has not yet decided whether it wants to hear the case.

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Associated Press writer Todd Richmond in Sun Prairie, Wis., contributed to this report.

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Jeanette DeBella Bogue
pretty sure I'm going straight to hell....
01:33 PM on 03/30/2011
I have a challenge for all those parents who say teachers only work part time:
Go to your child's school, and ask your child's teacher what time they arrive at school, time they leave, how much time during class they spend grading papers and planning lessons vs teaching the students, or do they plan lessons and grade papers at home, after the kids leave? Ask them who teaches summer school if their kids need it? Who tutors your child after school?
12:19 PM on 03/29/2011
Is running everything through the backdoor the only avenue for the Republicans to get anything passed in Wisconsin? Walkers' "my way or the highway" attitude has just about ran it coarse and the only one that doesn't seem to understand that is Walker.

The Gov. has demonstrated that is no level to which he is not willing to stoop to get this bill passes but why? Could it be that Walker has already cut a deal to sell those 34 public utilities to the Koch brothers? The only thing that is keeping this from happening is the passing this bill.

Would this be financially motivational for Walker knowing that he will be RECALLED in January?
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
01:51 AM on 03/29/2011
Restraining order.

Contempt of court.

Does any of this ring a bell with the Republibaggers?
12:14 AM on 03/29/2011
For those Americans who prefer wars/killing over education.

It's time for you to leave Earth asap.
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Marcusarilius
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10:04 PM on 03/28/2011
To all the Teachers posting here...

Come to Washington State. Leave the Book burning Nazis behind and come to a place where teachers are VERY much respected and appreciated. You still have the right to choose in this devided country of ours.
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11:03 PM on 03/28/2011
Book burning Nazis? Where?
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
01:53 AM on 03/29/2011
Could you use a National Board Certified teacher librarian with a masters in library and information science and 30 years experience? I have another masters and two other credentials.
08:17 PM on 03/28/2011
I guess the option of just ignoring the law is an option since all the repubs seem to be fond of doing so. I guess the repubs are in favor of anarchy instead of democracy or even a republic for that matter.
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11:03 PM on 03/28/2011
What anarchy is that? The circus came back from Illinois weeks ago, don't worry.
08:15 PM on 03/28/2011
It is truly sad. I've been teaching in Wis. for 14 years, and the worst part is seeing some really great teachers retire before they are ready to. Years of wisdom, knowledge, and experience gone. It's clear Scotty doesn't value education - look at his track record.

Frankenware is right - it's not just going to be teacher layoffs (yeah, I know you righties revel in others' pain), it's going to be cuts to things that make for a solid education. And if it's going to have that kind of impact in a well-off district, it will decimate smaller rural districts.

It's an absolute travesty. What kind of "fair share" sacrifice do the extremely wealthy have to make? Nothing NEAR what the middle-class has to make (or has had to make in the past few years). It amazes me that that doesn't bother some of you.
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11:09 PM on 03/28/2011
Why ARE those teachers retiring? You mean they would rather retire than kick in for 14% of the health cost and 5% of the pension - Which they will get back in the future? What a travesty. Thankfully for them, it's all about the children.Actually, if the union wasn't so interested in preserving their dues, there might not have to be teacher layoffs. Instead, they are "rushing to reach deals" before the law takes effect. But if there are layoffs, the union doesn't care, so long as they collect their automatic deductions.
11:34 PM on 03/28/2011
Couple of myths to dispel (too much Faux News kool-aid??? Just askin':-)

1) The amount of health insurance paid by teachers in Wis. districts varies dramatically. In my district we already paid 10%, and not to the state plan, through private insurers (which many other districts do too). So, don't generalize on "facts" that aren't accurate.
2) In my district, and others, EVERY YEAR we have to complete a sheet to state whether we want to be a union member and authorize dues deduction. So AGAIN, don't generalize on "facts" that aren't accurate.
2) What teachers are more upset about is the almost $900 million in cuts to education in our state. That will absolutely hurt kids' education. Is it about the kids? Yep. And tell ya what, I want my kindergarten daughter to know that when wrongdoing is happening, the right thing to do is STAND UP AND BE HEARD. That's exactly the kind of role model I want for my child.
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mlaiuppa
Pres. Sarcasm Society. Like we need your approval.
01:57 AM on 03/29/2011
No, it's not the money.

It's the lack of respect.

Their right to collective bargaining was taken away. Their voices have been gagged.

Teachers sacrifice a lot. They're willing to do it if they have respect and are treated professionally. In Wisconsin they have neither. So why bother taking the lousy pay and working conditions that will be even worse?

"Most teachers in the United States must go into debt in order to prepare for an occupation that pays them, on average, 60% of the salaries earned by other college graduates. Those who work in poor districts will not only earn less than their colleagues in wealthy schools, but they will pay for many of their students’ books and supplies themselves."

Why bother to do that any more when they are vilified by the likes of you?
07:45 PM on 03/28/2011
This is getting beyond ridiculous. We live in Alberta Darling 's district, and my kids attend public school in what is probably one of the wealthiest districts in the state. I will say firsthand that things are finally starting to sink in with the republican leaning parents. Sports programs are going to be slashed, and two incredible school principals are retiring/ moving out of state.
Now it is getting personal--- advanced placement programs in danger, etc.
I am still the only person at either school openly supporting the teachers with bumper sticker and always a button on.
In fact, a first grader was sent to school a few weeks ago with a Scott Walker bumper sticker on his chest. Parents too chicken to just go and smack every teacher in the face personally? Had to send a small child to do it?
I am hopeful, but still imagine a future of outraged affluent parents still blaming teachers for the outcome of this Neanderthal idiotic scheme.
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JustBNice
make friends with everyone
07:51 PM on 03/28/2011
The affluent are getting vouchers to help them pay for private schools for their kids.

Thanks to Walker and the Repubs.

They want to privatize schools, and everything else, so we can be a totally capitalistic failing country.
07:59 PM on 03/28/2011
ugh, don't even get me started on the charter school thing!
Ironically, hard times have hit even this suburb crowded with Suburbans and Escalades. Public schools had major enrollment increase this year, while prestigious $17,000 per year private school lost. These are not voucher users. They will not have their children exposed to anything out of district. They fight against open enrollment viciously even though it helps "balance the budget". No "outsiders" welcome.
So, day of reckoning is approaching.
07:54 PM on 03/28/2011
I KNOW, what did they really imagine would be the result?? My husband, a special ed teacher in Green Bay, just brought home the newsletter outlining similar potential changes along with the oft-rumored increased class sizes, longer/more school days, etc. etc. All of this WITH the "tools" Walker has given the school districts. But isn't his real agenda pushing those who can afford it into private schools anyways??
08:26 PM on 03/28/2011
Yeah, I've about had it with the word "tool" - Scotty can't get beyond the same old talking points.
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SPAIN62
“Solidarity is the tenderness of the people.”
07:37 PM on 03/28/2011
Over the past 30 years, I have traveled to and lived in many countries. This nation is the only country that I know of, where Teachers and Educators are looked down upon by “conservatives.” And where knowledge is derided as “elitist”. Shameful...
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JustBNice
make friends with everyone
07:51 PM on 03/28/2011
Well said.
08:08 PM on 03/28/2011
Sick isn't it? We don't create any revenue so therefore we don't matter.
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SPAIN62
“Solidarity is the tenderness of the people.”
07:24 PM on 03/28/2011
This is how tr0//s respond whenever they are unable to come up with something thoughtful or clever:

Posted by :YoungProudBlack
Do your parents know you're retarded?

posted Mar 28, 2011 at 19:00:29
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He/she was responding to my glib:

SPAIN62 tröll_tröll_tröll, yer boat ...

posted Mar 28, 2011 at 18:38:23
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It's easy to rile them, too easy, and often their puerile school yard bully persona quickly emerges.

I have no doubt that the poster is “Young,” but somehow, I doubt he is “Proud and Black.
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06:48 PM on 03/28/2011
All of this is just making me so sad. After 18 years as an award winning hight school teacher i am steadily watching more and more teachers consider leaving before it is too late....and these are the devoted GOOD teachers. I am in Maryland, where our retirement is about to be farmed out to counties, and the attitude of my county is "you should thank us that you have a job at all". I have been told by parents for years "you could be anything, why are you still teaching," and i have always said that I teach because it matters. How long will I be able to hold this view when I have been made an ENEMY OF THE STATE? I wonder...I still have half of a career to earn some real money after all!!! Just so sad.
07:11 PM on 03/28/2011
Leave. No one appreciates us. I am from Florida. You definitely don't want to teach here. Our legislature is certifiably nuts.
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07:36 PM on 03/28/2011
how much did you get a year? how much do you think you should get?
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06:46 PM on 03/28/2011
Keep strong our Wisconsin brothers and sisters. We in Floriduh stand with you and all others that are on the side of right. KARAMA..... I can't wait.
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06:51 PM on 03/28/2011
Floriduh and Wississippi! America's future. :(
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06:58 PM on 03/28/2011
Uhhh...this is a joke right?
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SPAIN62
“Solidarity is the tenderness of the people.”
07:41 PM on 03/28/2011
No, but your fake moniker is.
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“Solidarity is the tenderness of the people.”
06:42 PM on 03/28/2011
Don't feed the koch_sucker_tr0_l_l s.
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06:39 PM on 03/28/2011
We have made Wisconsin a laughingstock.