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George Miller, Leading House Democrat, On Why He Voted To End HAMP

George Miller

First Posted: 03/30/11 05:44 PM ET Updated: 05/30/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Eighteen Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives sided with Republicans in a symbolic vote to terminate the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program. Among those Democrats was California Rep. George Miller, a member of House Democratic leadership and a key ally to Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), who voted the other way.

Miller told HuffPost he made up his mind to vote to kill HAMP after considering stories from California residents who said they tried to get reduced mortgage payments under the program and wound up ripped off or otherwise abused instead. In October, California Democrats compiled a report including dozens of stories about mortgage modifications gone bad.

"What we saw was just a commonality of abuse by servicers, the banks, of our constituents," Miller said. "They were being lied to. Their documents were being lost on a regular basis. Their phone calls were not returned. They were told they'd be handed off to another person, that never took place. They were told they would be eligible in a couple months, that never took place."

Miller said the Treasury Department's handling of the program has abetted "wholesale abuse and misinformation and lies" by the mortgage industry.

Under HAMP, eligible borrowers are supposed to see their mortgage payments reduced if they successfully make lower payments during a three-month trial period. But delays and mixed signals from mortgage servicers are common. Fewer than 600,000 homeowners are in permanent modifications, according to Treasury's data, while more than 800,000 have been kicked out of the program, which was projected to help between 3 and 4 million when President Barack Obama launched it in February 2009.

Treasury argues it can't punish servicers who violate program guidelines, citing what it believes to be the voluntary nature of HAMP. Federal bailout watchdogs, however, have repeatedly criticized that argument, on the grounds that the firms signed contracts that allow Treasury to withhold payment of taxpayer dollars for failing to comply with HAMP rules.

Miller said he did not think homeowners would be better off today without HAMP. He said he cast his vote to send a signal to the Obama administration that it needs to improve the program. The Senate is not likely to pass the bill, which would face a White House veto.

He was not among the Democrats who signed a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner Tuesday with recommendations for improving the program. Their suggestions included eliminating the "dual track" system that allows servicers to move forward with foreclosures and modifications simultaneously.

"The real answer, of course, is to give these people access to the courts to get the modification, but the banks obviously have returned to their former position of power in the Congress," said Miller, apparently referring to the new Republican majority in the House of Representatives.

The Democratic-controlled House passed a bill allowing bankruptcy judges to modify mortgage terms in 2009, but the measure died in the Senate. Many consumer advocates consider judicial modification -- also known as "cramdown" -- the best way to address the housing crisis, arguing that the mere threat of cramdown will encourage lenders to reduce principal amounts owed by borrowers.

Nearly one in four U.S. homeowners with a mortgage owes more on the mortgage than the home itself is worth.

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WASHINGTON -- Eighteen Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives sided with Republicans in a symbolic vote to terminate the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program. Among those ...
WASHINGTON -- Eighteen Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives sided with Republicans in a symbolic vote to terminate the Obama administration's signature anti-foreclosure program. Among those ...
 
 
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04:05 AM on 04/01/2011
The REAL answer here involves no courts.. and I'm sorry but so many people that are applying for HAMP are not qualifying.. you need to have them in foreclosure they are using hamp to stall it! I'm sorry folks, but the whole this is a joke.
A: 31 percent of your GMI is HIGH! Ask any accountant worth their seed, and bringing these payments down to 31% isn't an act of God.
B: YOU COULDN"T AFFORD THE HOME IN THE FIRST PLACE!
C: Fannie Mae still has ultimate say on every hamp application, that's where the problem lies.
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09:01 AM on 04/01/2011
Christy, your numbers are correct, however, the problem still exists. People are hurting, is there nothing that you can do for that. When they hurt, we all hurt. We are in this together whether we like it or not. I am happy for you and those like you that have all the answers and apparently the money to pay your mortgage. However, the problem is bigger than that. Those that are seeking help just wanted to stay in a decent neighborhood, live the life that was promised when we were younger. Oh the American Dream, have you forgotten. Is it our fault that the dream was a illusion in the first place?
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AlsoSarah
Medicare for all
08:09 PM on 03/31/2011
The FACT is, that these homeowners that were duped DID PAY their mortgage payments. They paid what they were told to pay. The Banks then took the difference, added fees, charges, and ran up the bill, until such a time when they presented the massive bill to the homeowner and said "pay this amount now or we foreclose". They did it to everyone. I know, because I was one of them. The Obama Treasurey knew all about this but they LIED as to what exactly was going on. Why? They believed that NO ONE would care about these homeowners. The Obama Treasury cared about their Banking Buddies. It was FRA*D in the purest sense and it was at the hands of the Obama Admin and the Big Banks. It wasn't until the State Attorney Generals got involved that the truth started being exposed. Know this. Understand please.
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AlsoSarah
Medicare for all
08:00 PM on 03/31/2011
When homeowners entered into the HAMP program they were unaware that they were on a dual track. They thought they were being modified, not foreclosed upon. With the dual track HAMP, foreclosure comes before modification. The Banks knew this but he homeowner did not. FR*UD!
04:08 AM on 04/01/2011
So all the foreclosure notices they received are just tossed in a pile with their other UNPAID debt? P.S. Foreclosure is placed on hold once 1st trial payment is made, and then canceled obviously upon HAMP approval. if these people were doing what they were supposed to , they wouldn't have to worry about the foreclosure.
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AlsoSarah
Medicare for all
06:38 AM on 04/01/2011
You are wrong. I was presented with an enormous bill after making my payments on time every month for around two years. The padded bill was more than anyone could pay in one sum, all at once. This happened to every HAMP homeowner.
12:06 PM on 03/31/2011
Why should the tax payers foot the bill for your mistake. The deal was alright when you sheep signed the loan papers....
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BBackSoon
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02:24 PM on 03/31/2011
Financially well off, are you?
04:01 AM on 04/01/2011
So what if he is? Because your not that isn't anybodies problem but yours.
04:40 PM on 03/31/2011
So the lies and abdication of corporate responsibility mean nothing? There may be some who speculated and lost but many were duped or victims of circumstances beyond their control. Who says the tax payers should pay? Make the bankers pay! So when you get mugged on the street you don't go to the cops because you were a sheep in the wrong place and expecting a mugger to do otherwise foolish? It's victims fault right? You sound like a Faux Nooz kind of sheep..
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disgustedcitizen
11:14 AM on 03/31/2011
I would think that rather then kill the bill, a better plan would be to land on the abusing banks with both feet. Of course, I know the Democrats and the banks' natural ally, the GOP, have no stomach for doing anything that might irritate the banking industry and thus jeopardize their bribes... I mean, political contributions.
04:10 PM on 03/31/2011
Via Open Secrets...
... The sector gave at least 55 percent of their contributions to the GOP from 1996 to 2004, but actually gave a slight majority of their donations to Democrats in the 2008 cycle...

Still bribes??
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squat6971
59 *was* divine -- 60? 61? not so much
09:57 AM on 03/31/2011
So, where's the new, improved bill?
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Paul Burke
Author of Journey Home
09:39 AM on 03/31/2011
I worked in both the Resolution Trust Company and the RECA program - the government knows how to do this job - did this fail because the government relied on the private sector and tried to do it on the cheap - I can guarantee you that the people who worked on the RECA program would have got those claims processed, returned calls, not lost paper work and complete the job the right way with empathy.

The Government takes a bad rap - the private sector has a conflict of interest. You need to pull it out of the Treasury Department (huge conflict of interest) and turn it over to the Justice Department. Hello big bank Justice Department on line One.
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BBackSoon
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02:25 PM on 03/31/2011
I could not agree more.

But I will also not hold my breath for our government to do the right thing.
04:13 PM on 03/31/2011
It failed because we scrapped the original TARP plan to buy up these loans at discounted rates. Instead we issued loans to the banks and hoped they would do the right thing. They did ... for the banks and their shareholders.
08:45 AM on 03/31/2011
Nice to see at least some democrats realizing that government is not the solution to everything.
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BBackSoon
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02:26 PM on 03/31/2011
You didn't read the article did you?
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rikster
buy the ticket-take the ride
08:27 AM on 03/31/2011
"a Lobbyist gave me a nice check"
07:59 AM on 03/31/2011
Simple solution to this problem was to use true value for house and true value for interest rate. Both of those were false, that's how we got in this position. When I seen the value go up for my home I said that's free money and free money always have a trick to it.
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Jophoenix
07:36 AM on 03/31/2011
Good vote the banks told them too you want to bet after all after the bail out they got LOTS of tax payer dolls to pertend they were trying to refiniance the impossiable. The banker new this in so too did Mr Geithner it was a way to support the banks longer had nothing to do with home owners. Wake up and think about it. How can anyone refiniance when they wont give equity all that was offered was to tag on dollars at the back side come on it made NO sense at all for the homeowner but it fall into place wher you realize the banks got payed for EVERY refinance PAPER WORK and good money from the tax payer so again they got payed!! And bonus at that...
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jalaroc
07:32 AM on 03/31/2011
The program was a joke that merely put money in the pocket of banks while doing little to save people's homes over the long term. It was underfunded and ruthlessly taken advantage of by the mortgage industry.
08:47 AM on 03/31/2011
In other words, a typical government program.
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Mahi Joe
Think critically...not blindly conform
06:09 AM on 03/31/2011
Miller told HuffPost he made up his mind to vote to kill HAMP after considering stories from California residents
 
Really Miller? Would you care to tell us just how many people told you those stories? Give us a number and names of those the program failed.  Did you ever take the time to talk to those who benefited from this program and still have a roof over their head? If you think the program isn't working properly did you ever think of why or even how to make it better and fix it so those "many people" wouldn't be scammed or have difficulty in using the program ?  
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Jophoenix
07:57 AM on 03/31/2011
Mahi, In was not designed too work!! It was designed to fail ... think about it
The bankers got money or every letter, phone call every second spent in conversations.they bill the government. COST SHIFTING from us to them.only we thougth they were trying. If the government cared prinacle would have been reduced!!! When the bankers said no on reduction of principle that tells you the design could not and would not work that simple.Why would any bank refiniance a home they could not sell at the price the home owner was finiancing it for think about, anyway the banks got even more money for playing pertend so it goes..
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Mahi Joe
Think critically...not blindly conform
08:12 AM on 03/31/2011
Jo, that's the point. The program with modifications could conceivably work but with the bankers not cooperating and none of these politicians calling out these bankers no program will work. We keep placating big business and while we do this, big business does everything humanly possible to undermine any program which doesn't increase their profitability. It's not only this program but many others which are being run successfully will be undermined and eliminated by the GOP/TP and their corporate buddies. Who, if anyone has come up with another program to help people from losing their homes? Who?
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ibsteve2u
Someone who cares - to his unending regret
03:58 AM on 03/31/2011
So abandon the whole thing rather than fix it?

Rather like finding a man dying of dehydration in the desert and upon uncorking your canteen and discovering that your water has lots of little pieces of cork floating in it, throwing the water away rather than filtering the cork out and saving the guy's life.

I'm sure the guy would still be puzzling over the concept that the water wasn't good enough for him as he passed through the Pearly Gates.
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Jophoenix
08:08 AM on 03/31/2011
Right , and if Ms. Warren had been assigned to fix it away ( new design) would have happened. But thats not how it was structured. The OBAMA team could have changed this but they did not!!!
Why was it structured this way ask yourself and why didnt our mia president in his (our) team step in?? They didnt want too...
03:54 AM on 03/31/2011
Even if HUMP is a voluntary program,... there are still consumer laws on the books of most states
to ENFORCE,... guess MORE regulation and gov't programs is what we do when we have no in-
tention of enforcing existing law. Welcome to the "New Feudalism"! How much longer will we let the two year olds control the world,... "Mine!,.. Mine!,... That's Mine!"