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Maine GOP Legislators Looking To Loosen Child Labor Laws


First Posted: 03/30/11 05:59 PM ET Updated: 05/30/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Far from places like Ohio and Wisconsin, Maine has become a new battleground in the labor fight. Gov. Paul LePage (R) recently sparked the anger of the union community by ordering a mural depicting workers throughout the state's history removed from the Department of Labor. Now, Republican members of the state legislature are attempting to loosen child labor laws that the community fought hard to put into place.

The minimum wage in Maine is $7.50 an hour, and there is no training or subminimum wage for students. But under a new piece of legislation introduced in the state's House of Representatives, employers would be able to pay anyone under the age of 20 as little as $5.25 an hour for their first 180 days on the job.

The bill, LD 1346, also eliminates the maximum number of hours a minor 16 years of age or older can work on a school day and allows a minor under the age of 16 to work up to four hours on a school day during hours when school is not in session.

With Maine's unemployment above 7 percent, state Rep. Paul Gilbert (D) wonders why Republicans are pushing to create a pool of cheap labor when so many people are begging for jobs.

"If we had a shortage of job applicants or potential workers, then you could look at other populations to ease that strain on the workforce," Gilbert told The Huffington Post. "But we don't have that right now. We have an excess of job applicants here in Maine, as well across the country."

The state Senate is also currently considering a bill (LD 516) that would allow 16- and 17-year-old students to work until 11:00 p.m. on school nights. Currently, they're allowed to work until 10:00 p.m. It would also allow students to work for a total of 24 hours per week, four more than current law allows. Senators on the Labor, Commerce, Research and Economic Development Committee are split along party lines on the bill, but it's likely to pass when the full body votes on it--the Senate, like the House, is controlled by Republicans.

Democrats in the legislature, along with progressives, labor groups, and advocates for women and children, are opposed to the bills, while industry groups such as the Maine Restaurant Association argue that the current law is too strict compared to others in New England.

In a press release sent out by the Maine House Democratic office yesterday, Sen. Troy Jackson, the lead Democrat on the Labor, Commerce, Research and Economic Development (LCRED) Committee, said, "While the Governor is distracted by artwork that makes him angry, the Republicans in legislature are rolling back protections for Maine kids."

The sponsor of LD 1346, Rep. David Burns (R), did not return a request for comment. But co-sponsor Rep. Bruce Bickford (R) said that the government should stop standing in the way on child labor issues.

"This is in no way an attempt to abuse child labor, which some may look at and say, 'We've fought hard for kids and we've done this or that,'" he said. "Kids have parents. Let the parents be responsible for the kids. It's not up to the government to regulate everybody's life and lifestyle. Take the government away. Let the parents take care of their kids."

Bickford said he supported making it easier for young people to get a job so that they can earn some extra spending money and build up their resume and skills, arguing that right now, students have plenty of time after school that they could fill with employment.

"I would support removing the cap for daily and weekly hours, but I would also support amending it to six hours when school is in session, so the student could get home from school -- say 3:00 -- and could work from 4:00-9:00. They'd still have plenty of time for homework," Bickford added. "Most of these kids are generally up well past 10:00. They could work a 3:00-9:00 shift."

Gilbert disagreed, saying it could end up being a 14 or 15-hour day for students who should be prioritizing education. Gilbert also said that since many young people do seasonal work that doesn't last more than 180 days, essentially they'll be taking a $2-per-hour pay cut.

Testifying recently against the proposed change to the law, Maine Children Alliance President and CEO Dean Crocker said that with 20 percent of students in the state currently not graduating high school, the state needs to do everything it can to prioritize education: "Letting work once again interfere with the education is not the step we should take."

Other co-sponsors of LD 1346 were less enthusiastic about some of the provisions in the legislation than Bickford was. Rep. Eleanor Espling (R) told The Huffington Post that she primarily supported the bill because it would allow parents more flexibility over the work opportunities of home-schooled children. Right now, they need to obtain a work permit from the local school district, but under the new bill, they would be able to simply get the sign-off from their parents.

Espling said she noticed that federal law allows a training wage of $4.25 an hour for the first 90 days of employment for a young person under 20 years of age. "I think what we might see as this bill goes through the committee process is that they'll find they need to get it more in line with federal standards," she added.

Rep. Deborah Sanderson (R), another co-sponsor, also said she has some "concerns" with the $5.25 an hour provision, although believes "there may be positions for workers in the younger brackets that it could be appropriate for certain duties."

"My main motivating reason for co-sponsoring this bill was to open the discussion in regard to expanding the hours that the different age brackets can work," she said. "I was a staffing coordinator for a company in Augusta and there were many times where, depending on the students' school schedules, they could have easily worked more, and indeed wanted to work more, than Maine statute allowed. Specifically, the 16 to 18-year-olds. As long as there are some limits in place so their education time isn't compromised, I believe we do a disservice to these kids who want to work by telling them they can't."

LD 1346 was referred to the House LCRED committee on Tuesday, although a schedule to debate the bill has not yet been set. LD 516 is now facing a full vote by the Senate.

According to the Maine Women's Lobby, which has been one the leading voices in opposition to the two bills, the state's child labor laws were put into place in 1847 after educators complained that children working long hours were falling asleep in class.

"The current law limiting working hours for 16 and 17 year-olds was forged through bipartisan agreement in the legislature about the need to balance employer interests with the health and welfare of Maine children," reads a statement by the group. "According to the Legislative Record, in debate on the Senate floor, the original law was referred to as the 'Put Learning First, Put Working Second' bill."

Matt Schlobohm, executive director of Maine AFL-CIO, argued that what is happening with the child labor laws is part of a larger agenda by state Republicans.

"The Department of Labor, for the past 20 years, supported the basic policy framework that...prioritized younger workers' education first and foremost, while also valuing the education they gained through work experience," said Schlobohm. "They really tried to strike an appropriate balance where young people could gain an education that could guide them through the rest of their life. I think there's a whole host of rollbacks of workers' rights and basic workplace standards now."

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WASHINGTON -- Far from places like Ohio and Wisconsin, Maine has become a new battleground in the labor fight. Gov. Paul LePage (R) recently sparked the anger of the union community by ordering a mura...
WASHINGTON -- Far from places like Ohio and Wisconsin, Maine has become a new battleground in the labor fight. Gov. Paul LePage (R) recently sparked the anger of the union community by ordering a mura...
WASHINGTON -- Far from places like Ohio and Wisconsin, Maine has become a new battleground in the labor fight. Gov. Paul LePage (R) recently sparked the anger of the union community by ordering a mura...
WASHINGTON -- Far from places like Ohio and Wisconsin, Maine has become a new battleground in the labor fight. Gov. Paul LePage (R) recently sparked the anger of the union community by ordering a mura...
 
 
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12:32 PM on 04/06/2011
Don't know how many of the rest of you saw this coming 20 miles off, but based on my assessment of the Neo-con Renazicans who now control what once was the Republican Party, I was 100% sure it would happen sooner than later.

And this is just the beginning of their "Total Servitude" agenda
03:16 PM on 04/03/2011
Love it! Now the unemployed adults in Maine get to compete with their own children for crap jobs!
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02:48 PM on 04/03/2011
Those writing and voting on this ought to be brought up on charges of child abuse.
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03:06 PM on 04/03/2011
Writing the bill and voting yes.
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02:15 PM on 04/02/2011
What good are kids if they don't earn some money for ya; If the repuglicans had their way everyone in the family over 5 yrs.old will be working for 3$ per hour; the only problem with that is poor people will stat having large families of potential democratic voters.
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08:19 PM on 04/01/2011
Mother Jones must be rolling over in her grave. Shame on all of you Mainiacs who support such a bill and please consider the backlash when tourist dollars you rely on to keep your economy float shrink.
And all this while the news reports CEO wages going to new heights.
11:57 AM on 04/03/2011
Please don't clump all Mainers into the insane category of people who support this bill. Thanks to our illustrious Governor, we have been subject to enough ridicule. Rest assured ... the majority of the people in this state, as well as many republican senators and representatives, are mortified by what's coming out of this administration.
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sdgrrl
Stay independent and always question your leaders.
05:17 PM on 04/01/2011
Hey everyone- we need to all open our eyes to both parties and not just focus on Maine and Repubs. What they are trying to do in Maine is disgusting, but the across the board what both parties do is fairly disgusting- though yes to my liberal heart Conservatives take the cake most often.

I voted for Obama and went to the inauguration and now realize that he put the CEO of GE on his Economic Panel. These big corps pay pretty much no taxes and then get billions in tax breaks while me, you and the small family business are afraid of the IRS knocking on our door and hand out 30% of our income to them. Does anyone think this is outrageous? The top 1% are the ones getting welfare- not the single mom on WIC and not the kid on a Pell Grant.

Both parties seek out war for oil and ignore investing in technology that could take us out of these international BS disputes and then yes, our hearts could be in the world for real matters like Sudan and Haiti.

Politicians it seems want us divided over minimum wage, abortion, religion, and other matters, but does anyone notice that CEO's somehow have snuck out over a trillion a year while we fight and elect leaders to make our lives better?

Sorry for the rant...we need to wake up.
05:51 PM on 04/01/2011
You're absolutely right! The situation with corporations buying everyone in Washington and in the state legislatures is horrendous and yet there are those who still think "oh, we're so hard on those poor, poor companies"! Rot.
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sdgrrl
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06:01 PM on 04/01/2011
When I first heard what these companies where doing I thought "Hmmm...well they are bringing jobs to America with the money saved".

Then I researched more- no they didn't. They got the tax loophole, got the tax welfare break and didn't bring the jobs back. Makes my stomach churn. Seriously, we keep talking about minimum wage, war, oil (which we should)- they are all laughing all the way to the bank.
12:37 PM on 04/06/2011
Your post is right on the money honey., rant on , we are right behind "cha"
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10:58 AM on 04/01/2011
I do not believe the 24 hours a week will hurt their studies to much as long as they are not already falling behind however something in this law should be tied to their grades.

But to think it is ok to pay them less for the same job is wrong on every level, minimum wage is minimum wage and not dependent on the age of the worker.
Just another attempt by the rich to create a slave labor class in America, because hey poorer kids who have to work don't need education right....
05:46 PM on 04/01/2011
Even the current 20 hours is a lot. When are these students supposed to be studying? What happened to "our people aren't trained enough for these 2st century tech jobs - that's why they're all going overseas; we need to do something about education!" Isn't part of that keeping kids in school, making sure they have enough time and ENERGY to study? Wouldn't we rather have them staying in school instead of learning how to be exploited by employers at less than minimum wage jobs?
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06:18 PM on 04/01/2011
Oh I agree but sadly some kids need to work due to family situations where the parents just do not make enough to support them and they just want to help out.
All I was commenting about was the 4 hour jump was not so bad especially compared to the 12 hour jump that was initially proposed.
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09:38 AM on 04/01/2011
Yeah, and after 180 days, it's buhbye to you and hello to the next sucker. You think any company is going to keep their under-20 employees for more than 180 days under such a rule? Dream on... What this means is a permanent underclass of low-wage workers who can never see their salaries increased. And all those jobs given to the under-20 who need it least? Taken from the over-20 who need them most.

This is nothing but the creation of a low-wage pool to increase the profits of corporations by putting a generalized downward pressure on wages. It's the same thing that keeps the government from truly cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
01:11 PM on 04/06/2011
Yes, thank you. Why is no one else talking about this 180 day $5.25/hr BS. Seriously, after taxes, what can that buy these days? There are plenty of kids all over these United States who have to work to support their families; in my mind, it is criminal negligence at best to consider passing a bill that allows for the lowering of an already unlivable wage. What is the real motive here? Without question many companies will boot these kids out the door after the 180 days are up, before they have to provide benefits and the state minimum salary that no one can actually live on anyhow.
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
08:25 AM on 04/01/2011
"Do You Want Fries With That?"

~ The new Maine State Motto
08:07 AM on 04/01/2011
Lets seei f I have the Tea Party agenda figured out:
We need to protect our children and grandchildren by reducing the deficit.
The only way to reduce the deficit is to cut public school funding and public programs.
We need to pay our children and grandchildren a lower wage and allow them to work more hours to build work ethic.
We need to eliminate federal policies that protect the saftey of employees because it taxes the employers.

5.25 x 20hrs = $105 per week .........how much does that pay for today.
05:24 PM on 04/01/2011
Let's see, with gas at about $4.00 per gallon, driving to work ought to eat up some of that paycheck "real good". They'll want to stick to mini-meals at $3.27 because regular fast food meals are now almost $6.00 each. How much do kids' cell phones, clothes, movies, other discretionary expenses run, let alone saving any of it for school needs or even college?

And, after working 20, and now they're allowed 24 hours, how exhausted will they be to do their REAL WORK which is going to school and studying?
03:26 AM on 04/01/2011
The hubris displayed by the Republicans since the 2010 elections (all over the nation) is absolutely breathtaking.

How on earth do they NOT expect a severe blowback from voters at the next election(s)?
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04:41 AM on 04/01/2011
they are hoping the Democrats will be divisive among themselves and the far left Progressives will stay angry with Obama. The Tea Party and the Repubs will use Carl Rove tactics riling up the far left progressives with issues hoping the far left progressives will not vote.????
05:25 PM on 04/01/2011
"The hubris displayed by the Republican­s since the 2010 elections (all over the nation) is absolutely breathtaki­ng."

Favorite line all day - fanned!
02:32 AM on 04/01/2011
Cool, I was trying to figure out a way to make Easter more Dickensian. It's a little too bright from a stylistic standpoint.
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Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
02:46 AM on 04/01/2011
Back to 1840s London, woohoo, pass the gin.
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02:54 AM on 04/01/2011
"Fagin! These sausages are moldy!"

"Shut up and drink your gin."
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
08:05 AM on 04/01/2011
"Drunk for a penny. Dead drunk for tuppence."
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AuntInAZ
Hypocrisy is one of my pet peeves.
02:29 AM on 04/01/2011
Lower min for kids is BS. They should not be paid less! Work more hours, get paid less, be taken advantage of, work harder... What a crock!
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JoliAvocat
Barack Obama in 2012
02:29 AM on 04/01/2011
It's not going to be long before they remove minimum wages either.

That's next.
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Turtlenewz
04:43 AM on 04/01/2011
Only if the people of Maine let them
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JoliAvocat
Barack Obama in 2012
02:21 AM on 04/01/2011
I wonder if any of you have figured out how really dangerous the Republicans are.

This is serious business. It's an assault on middle class Americans and they are on a fast track.