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Firefighters, Cops Warn Republicans Anti-Union Stance Has Consequences

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First Posted: 04/01/11 05:04 PM ET Updated: 06/01/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Leaders from two unions known to support the Republican Party warned of serious repercussions for GOP candidates in the 2012 elections, saying the onslaught of anti-labor bills in state capitals has shifted their political allegiances.

“Our political principles are pretty straightforward. We’ll support those that support us,” Harold Schaitberger, general president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, told HuffPost. “We tend to stick with those who stick with us.”

“There is a distinct possibility that the pro-labor candidate in the next election will be looked at much more favorably than their overall record,” Chuck Canterbury, national president of the Fraternal Order of Police, told HuffPost. “The vast majority of our membership will put other issues aside.”

The inclusion of police and fire unions in an Ohio bill that stripped collective bargaining rights from public employees may have been the last straw for the two conservative-leaning groups. But even in Wisconsin, where Gov. Scott Walker’s actions exempted them, cops and fire fighters marched shoulder to shoulder with teachers and other public workers.

Now, the public safety unions are signaling what could be a tectonic shift in the political landscape, one that could result in a level of labor solidarity missing for recent elections.

“I don’t want to say we are unhappy with Republicans but we are very unhappy with the far-right wing of the party that seems to have taken the Republican Party hostage,” said Canterbury, whose union endorsed George W. Bush and John McCain in the last three presidential elections. “We are extremely unhappy with the snowball that rolled in in Ohio and we are traditionally a very conservative organization. We’ve been bipartisan.....But with the actions that have taken place, there’s going to be tremendous reprisals taken out at the polls” by police and their families.”They feel like their public officials turned their back on them.”

The FOP political action committee gave less than $30,000 in 2010, most of it evenly distributed between Republicans and Democrats. But Canterbury expects his union will spend significantly more money in 2012 elections and recall and referendum votes in Wisconsin, Ohio and other states where labor is being asked to shoulder the brunt of budget deficits.

“Nobody will get money from us who don’t openly support us,” the police union chief said.

Schaitberger, whose firefighters union wields significantly more clout, said his union would also be spending more in support of Democratic candidates. During the 2010 elections, the union gave $2.7 million in political contributions, with about 82% of its money going to Democrats and the rest to GOP candidates.

“In 2012, it going to change,” he said. “Our members are furious.... We will be putting our money where our mouth is.”

Schaitberger said GOP governors and legislators across the country were attacking union rights, even though the media has largely focused on events in Wisconsin and Ohio. “This is clearly a GOP right-wing coordinated attack on workers,” he said. “Their goal is to kill our union and cripple us in the political arena.”

He is perhaps most concerned about New Hampshire, not coincidentally host of the first presidential primary. Republicans there have a veto-proof majority in the legislature and are pushing a bill that may be “the most draconian of any of the anti-worker, anti-collective bargaining attacks,” he said.

The legislation would turn public employees who fail to reach a contract agreement into “at will workers” who could be fired at any time and would not have the right to negotiate wages, working hours and working conditions.

Schaitberger said that legislation is the kind of overreach that has galvanized his members and will have “significant blowback” at the polls.

“There has been a very significant shift when you look at the Republican attacks we see in the states,” the fire union boss said. “They are going to be in our cross hairs and our members will politically respond accordingly.”

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WASHINGTON -- Leaders from two unions known to support the Republican Party warned of serious repercussions for GOP candidates in the 2012 elections, saying the onslaught of anti-labor bills in state ...
WASHINGTON -- Leaders from two unions known to support the Republican Party warned of serious repercussions for GOP candidates in the 2012 elections, saying the onslaught of anti-labor bills in state ...
 
 
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Motorgoon
10:26 PM on 04/26/2011
Im a cop and I never have and never will vote republican. I am a big scary gay guy though that definitely has the ability to decorate and know a cheap knock off from a Hermes handbag. I guess im part of the new younger generation rejecting the church, republican and the Christian right. Oh yeah, I ride a motorcycle and wear jackboots too.
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baileywick
09:58 PM on 04/04/2011
"Divide and rule, a sound motto : unite and lead, a better one." Goethe
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AxelDC
07:27 PM on 04/04/2011
Working Americans who vote for Republicans are voting against their own wages, pensions, Social Security and health insurance.  Republicans don't want you to have them because it means lower profits for their corporate overlords.

Working people voting for Republicans are turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.
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F4U Corsair
redpurpleblue.com
04:42 PM on 05/08/2011
LOL, you have it all figured out huh?
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shooter 586
Concerned for CA. Time to end union control of CA
06:15 PM on 04/04/2011
Ahh, good to see the unions resorting to good ol' extortion. Who needs elected officials when we have the union thugs running the state coffers.
07:01 PM on 04/04/2011
another bagger sockpuppet is crying "NO FAIR" when people exercise their rights.

*Points and laughs*
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shooter 586
Concerned for CA. Time to end union control of CA
07:39 PM on 04/04/2011
Childish name calling?? "points and laughs"???

Are liberals trolling the school yards these days? Or are these the product of union teachers?

Wages and a job are not rights. Check the Constitution. Do you know what the Constitution is?
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AxelDC
07:28 PM on 04/04/2011
How is it "extortion" to not want your pay and benefits slashed?

Republicans are stealing from the public and giving to the ultrarich.
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shooter 586
Concerned for CA. Time to end union control of CA
07:43 PM on 04/04/2011
Canned response about so-called "ultra rich". Last I checked, the tax payers are paying the wages of union members. Ant "threats" is considered extortion. Look it up.

Imagine if the "ultrarich" paid the same percentage as you. How much money would be in the union coffers?

The SEIU handbook says to respond by saying the rich don't pay their fair share, in case you wanted to know. This is because they know 90% of the uneducated public don't know how much the rich actually pay in taxes. Look at the 'revenue by income' on the staet webpage if you don't know.
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fg159
05:56 PM on 04/04/2011
I simply don't understand how any worker, middle class person or poor person could possibly vote for a party that believes that they are the enemy.
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
08:03 AM on 04/05/2011
How....just watch how the GOP plays politics...and they'll show you how. Because they understand the psychology of many working class voters.

1. Many people are very tribal in their outlook on life...so they emotionally respond to an "Us vs Them" dynamic. Which is why Conservative politics ALWAYS has to have some sort of Boogeyman for their constituents to "be afraid of"...because they are out to "destroy America".

2. Play to people's class, cultural, and ethnic resentments to distract them from economic-based class issues. These identity-based issues will often fire up such an emotional fire in people that they will often ignore their own economic self interests. Hence the formula of "Guns, Gays and God."

3. Pit different groups against one another. Groups that have a common CLASS-based interest, but frame it in "Us vs Them" terms. So that people's tribal instincts will kick in and distract them from the economic big-picture. That's what Conservatives were hoping to pull off with this assualt on the public unions. To frame it as "union thugs" (bad, unproductive people) against the "average tax-payer" (good, productive...white...people). The problem is that they so vastly over-reached that very few people were willing to buy into the frame.

So they got caught wrong footed. Instead of turning against the unions...the vast majority of people recognize their shared economic interests...or the basic fairness issue that is involved here.
05:21 PM on 04/04/2011
If Cops and Firefighters support Republicans who then cut services for the poor, offshore jobs to communist China, grant subsidies to corporations, and grant massive bailouts to Wall Street, and start wars we can't pay for... Then why are Democrats constantly supporting pay raises for cops and firefighters?
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
08:06 AM on 04/05/2011
Because Democrats, as a general rule, are less willing to use public policy to engineer political advantage.

Whereas (authoritarian) Conservatives have no respect for the democratic process (beyond the freedoms it affords THEM)...and will do whatever they can to expand their own power....and that of their allies.
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jmhprose
Proud American Liberal
04:46 PM on 04/04/2011
The blowback is happening faster than I thought it would. Republicans thought they had a mandate and misread the election entirely. People were hurting because of the economy and they wanted to try something different (Republicans and Tea Party). Now they see that they embraced their worst nightmare. Not only are things not better for them they and their jobs are on the chopping block. Way to go Republicans. Thanks for the help!
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
08:09 AM on 04/05/2011
I think people are starting to wake up to the class war that Conservatives have been waging upon the middle-class...and are starting see that the GOP has NOTHING to offer except to keep taking a HATCHET to government at all levels....including the social safety net....

...and somehow the economy will magically improve.

I only hope people are also waking up to the fact that this improvement will not occur simply because government budgets are slashed....but that this really all about shifting more and more of the burden of funding society's upkeep from the rich to the middle-class.

A middle-class that cannot afford it...so the rich argue that NONE of us can afford it.

Which is a crock.
04:45 PM on 04/04/2011
The GOP tried to paint the 911 first responders as lazy people with their hands out as well.
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shooter 586
Concerned for CA. Time to end union control of CA
06:17 PM on 04/04/2011
Speaking of hands out, did you see Obama wants a $billion of your money? And that isn't even for a govt program! That's just to give Michelle more shrimp and lobster for 4 more years!
07:02 PM on 04/04/2011
You clearly are illiterate.
09:22 AM on 04/05/2011
So basically you want to do anything possible to change the subject. How weird that you pick partisnaship above the good of the country.
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Jennifer Mead
Girls dig unix
03:48 PM on 04/04/2011
Wow, a Republican who notices what is happening to American families by Republican politicians. I never thought I would see that. Good news. Hope it sticks.
05:23 PM on 04/04/2011
It won't. But let's get real, Democrats don't care either. Well, except in speeches. Obama gives great speeches and then supports offshoring and free trade deals.
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Jennifer Mead
Girls dig unix
06:05 PM on 04/04/2011
Please don't lump Obama into the Democratic pool. He lied to get there but his performance shows the real him.
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03:15 PM on 04/04/2011
Consequences? Yes. There will be no more sweetheart retirements and health plans. No more retirements at 50 with full salary and other such abuses.
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Jennifer Mead
Girls dig unix
03:50 PM on 04/04/2011
Which union are you referring to? You are terribly misinformed and it shows.
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07:27 PM on 04/04/2011
How about the California's public sector unions?

http://amoraloutrage.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/farewell-my-lovely/
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serialcoma
Friends don't let friends watch Fox
04:01 PM on 04/04/2011
Ridiculous comment from someone who is not as bright as their cat....
03:10 PM on 04/04/2011
Anyone with an interest in History should be aware that the Republican Party has beatdown the middle and lower class for one hundred years. The Republican s would love to get the wages down to $ 4.00 pr. hr.What do you think Reagan allowed three million illegals in for? George Bush-Cheney let nine million more in... there goal was for cheap labor.. wake up America.
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shooter 586
Concerned for CA. Time to end union control of CA
03:30 PM on 04/04/2011
What does a lie sound like?

"Anyone with an interest in History should be aware that..."

Good to see ignorance is still rampant in the liberal's mind.
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Jennifer Mead
Girls dig unix
03:51 PM on 04/04/2011
Showing your ignorance I see.
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serialcoma
Friends don't let friends watch Fox
04:02 PM on 04/04/2011
You should stick to hanging out with farm animals.. you are out of your depth here.
03:06 PM on 04/04/2011
You can't lose support you don't have. Unions have never backed Republicans, saying they're withholding their support from Republicans is like... well its exactly like unions saying they're withholding support from Republicans. You can't take away what you never gave.
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Jennifer Mead
Girls dig unix
03:52 PM on 04/04/2011
Did you read the article?
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serialcoma
Friends don't let friends watch Fox
04:02 PM on 04/04/2011
Pretty clueless aren't you.....
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dayzee10
Are you a master builder or a master butcher?
03:04 PM on 04/04/2011
I have sympathy for the firefighters, the police, more difficult especially when they use SWAT teams to evict grandmothers out of their homes
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jmhprose
Proud American Liberal
04:44 PM on 04/04/2011
What????
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dayzee10
Are you a master builder or a master butcher?
10:32 PM on 04/04/2011
Yes, last week in Rochester, NY, doing the dirty work for Bank of America!
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TeeLolly
02:47 PM on 04/04/2011
If a fire department in Tennessee can stand by and watch a man's house burn because he didn't pay a $75 fire-protection fee, one would think firefighters hurt by Republican anti-union policies could selectively apportion the harm flowing from those policies to affect those individuals who promoted those policies ...
 
but then again, every firefighter I've known (never knew any in Tennessee) is far too honorable to do that, and would likely risk his or her life protecting even the homes of those who would disregard firefighters' rights.