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Bill Kristol Attempt To Promote Paul Ryan 2012 Candidacy Falls Flat, But Coming Fight Over Spending Holds Wild Cards

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First Posted: 04/04/11 08:27 PM ET Updated: 06/04/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- An attempt by conservative author Bill Kristol to excite interest in the idea of a presidential run by Republican congressman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) –- with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as his running mate -– fell flat with the conservative political establishment on Monday.

“Sounds like an idea my good friend Bill Kristol would float, but that is not the nominating process of the Republican Party,” said Mel Sembler, a major Republican fundraiser and businessman. “Paul Ryan has already stated he is not interested in running and Marco Rubio just got to town as senator.”

“I guess Bill Kristol will just have to stick to prognosticating,” Sembler told The Huffington Post.

Part of the derision toward Kristol derives from his central role in thrusting former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska) onto the national stage before Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) chose her as his running mate in the 2008 presidential campaign.

Yet a broad cross section of GOP political figures –- many of them in off-the-record conversations -- echoed Sembler's opinion, even as they sang Ryan’s praises. Some even admitted that Ryan is one of the few Republican politicians who they think could beat Obama in a debate, pointing to his exchange with Obama at last year’s health care summit.

In withholding their support, they cited Ryan’s unwillingness to jump into the 2012 presidential race, his lack of executive experience, and a strong belief that the Republican primary should proceed methodically and traditionally, without the kind of disruption that a surprise candidate would bring.

“If people want to run, let them run and subject themselves to the rigor and scrutiny of the process,” said Jim Rickards, an economic analyst who works with top GOP politicos in Washington. “This business of anointing unvetted fantasy tickets seems a bit sophomoric.”

Nonetheless, Kristol’s second try at floating a Ryan-Rubio trial balloon –- after first doing so in early January -– is just another indication of how unsettled many conservatives are with the quality, or lack thereof, on the party’s 2012 roster of potential presidential candidates.

“I suspect the enthusiasm Bill Kristol notes has a lot to do with a kind of dissatisfaction with the emerging field, as much as a sense that Ryan and Rubio in particular would be the right ticket,” Yuval Levin, a former Bush White House policy adviser, said via email.

Levin agreed with those who don’t believe Ryan will run, but said that “whoever is the Republican candidate will have to adopt the Ryan agenda, and in the long run it's a plausible winning agenda.”

An experienced Republican political operative in Washington laid out the reasons why neither Ryan or Rubio would run in 2012, starting with the fact that both have young families and don’t want to essentially abandon their families to devote themselves to a campaign and the possibility of an all-consuming job if they won.

On policy, the operative said, “they’d get killed on the stump for the tough stuff they are supporting,” referring to Ryan’s plans to cut roughly $1 trillion from Medicaid in his budget proposal this week, and to dramatically overhaul Medicare.

“Just because the Wall Street Journal loves their policies doesn’t make it a political winner,” the Republican said. “It's a conservative’s fantasy that allows people to sit and sigh saying, ‘None of the above, I picked Ryan-Rubio.'”

The responses of conservative leaders to questions from The Huffington Post about the hypothetical ticket became predictably similar.

“Rubio and Ryan are young enough to run for president anytime in the next 20 years, so I assume they both wait,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, said Kristol’s suggestion of a Ryan-Rubio ticket was “interesting, but suffers from the problem that neither has expressed any interest in running.”

Multiple Democratic sources close to the Obama administration were also dismissive of the idea.


SUPPORT FROM OPINION MAKERS AND THE TEA PARTY

Despite the pessimism among the political establishment, there are small signs that Kristol’s desire for a compelling alternative to the current field -– and to the other much-discussed dark horse candidate, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey –- is catching on, at least among conservative writers.

On Sunday, New York Times columnist Ross Douthat wrote that, if the GOP primary comes down to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, “the Republican Party will have let both its own constituents and the country down.”

Douthat referenced the way that Ryan and other GOP leaders –- including Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels and Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina –- are framing the 2012 election as a matter of existential importance for both conservatism and limited government. Inherent in the conservative concern is the fear that an American culture built on self-reliance, unlimited opportunity and exceptionalism is being replaced by a national identity marked by growing dependence on government and increasingly small ambitions for achievement.

“Every presidential election matters, but Daniels and Ryan are right to see the 2012 campaign as a potential hinge moment in American domestic politics,” Douthat wrote. “The unpopularity of President Obama’s agenda, the obvious unsustainability of blue-state spending habits (evident in budget battles from California to New York) and the looming entitlement crisis have created a remarkable opportunity for conservatives to reimagine government’s role -- to look ‘beyond the welfare state,’ as Yuval Levin argues in the latest issue of National Affairs, and try to discern what come next.”

Yet the GOP looks like it is on the verge of squandering the moment, Douthat wrote. It’s a fear shared by others. The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin is another conservative pundit who of late has begun to promote the idea of a Ryan-Rubio ticket.

“It might just be that the Ryan-Rubio duo proves to be the boldest, most influential twosome in Washington. In the absence of a serious president, maybe these two can restore America’s economic health and international credibility. And if so, the Republican electorate might want to think about drafting them for bigger jobs in 2012,” Rubin wrote last week.

Grassroots Tea Party organizers also expressed interest in the idea of a Ryan candidacy.

“There may be other exciting combinations out there, but tons of us in the grassroots would work ourselves to the bone to get that ticket elected,” said Bob MacGuffie, a Tea Party activist in Connecticut.

COULD THE BUDGET BE RYAN'S BIG BREAK?

All of this comes as Ryan, who is chairman of the House Budget Committee, is taking center stage in Washington, as he releases an alternative budget proposal for the 2012 fiscal year, which begins in October. His budget would cut $6.2 trillion in spending over the next decade and reduce the federal budget deficit by $4.4 trillion over that same period, Ryan wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed that went live online late Monday.

Ryan cited a Heritage Foundation study in arguing that his budget would create one million new private sector jobs next year and bring the unemployment rate from its current rate of 8.8 percent down to 4 percent in 2015, enlarging the average family's income by roughly $1,000 each year.

Ryan’s name and face –- already a more constant presence on TV airwaves and in the national debate this year –- will be thrust even further into the daily news cycle, increasing his name recognition. And since he is proposing fundamental changes to programs that are considered sacrosanct by the left, Ryan is set to become one of the Democratic Party’s primary political targets for the coming year.

Democrats had already begun launching salvos at Ryan on Monday ahead of the release of his budget.

But such a debate, and such an intensity of attacks, is also likely to rally much of the GOP behind Ryan.

“Paul Ryan and his colleagues are attempting structural reforms that exceed anything even Ronald Reagan attempted,” said conservative writer Pete Wehner. “It is a political and intellectual undertaking of historic importance. And for conservatives, it’s a cause worth rallying behind."

If Ryan emerges from the coming debate having both won over the public and united the GOP behind him, then the conversation about his political future may have to change.

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WASHINGTON -- An attempt by conservative author Bill Kristol to excite interest in the idea of a presidential run by Republican congressman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) –- with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as hi...
WASHINGTON -- An attempt by conservative author Bill Kristol to excite interest in the idea of a presidential run by Republican congressman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) –- with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as hi...
 
 
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outlandish 08:25 AM on 04/05/2011
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10:31 PM on 04/06/2011
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09:56 PM on 04/06/2011
I think Paul Ryan has some good ideas but he'd do well to stay away from Mel Sembler. I am a survivor of his program Straight Inc. and if that place is any example of his morals and values, he has no place breathing the same air as the rest of us. Straight Inc. was a concentration camp that employed POW brainwashing techniques on CHILDREN. Google Straight Inc. or Mel Sembler and you will see what I am talking about. The fact that this man is even walking around free and able to comment or influence anyone is a disgrace.
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Hivoltaghe
Chasin' the dream
07:08 PM on 04/06/2011
Have they asked the Grinch to run yet? With the name recognition and negative attitude he would be perfect for what the GOP is missing.
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Smithn
Different strokes for different folks.
02:04 PM on 04/06/2011
Kristol: yet another Conservative who in his entire lifetime never met a 'teachable moment'.
11:22 AM on 04/06/2011
Mel Sembler has no business commenting. He was the one in charge of Straight Inc which now has thousands of victims of abuse and torture under his leadership. Please don't take my word for it. Look his name up, read the documents, look up Straight Inc. which is listed as perfoming "psychological murder" in the words of a psychiatrist. He was also had crimes against humanity filed against him, the UN said the evidence was there and they would help the survivors had only our country signed that article. Again, this is documented online. Type in his name or Straight Inc. Go to fornits.com , go to the Straight Board where are there are tons of links to government and state documents. There is no need to believe any story from any survivor it is documented to the hilt. Anyone wanting to run for office in my opinion would do well to stay away from that association just a suggestion
10:52 AM on 04/06/2011
Has Kristol ever been right about anything? Ever? How could someone who has been so wrong, about so much, for so long, still make a living voicing his opinion? Obviously, I mean besides being a commentator on Faux Noise.
09:50 AM on 04/06/2011
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bradenton
09:02 AM on 04/06/2011
Could it be that Kristol's mistake was scraping the bottom of the Teabagger's barrel?
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junior111
08:52 AM on 04/06/2011
Bill Kristol simply have forgotten the Coffee Party. They are the sleeping giant that anytime can be unleashed. Also don't discount the the Coffee Party made of Herbal.
01:41 PM on 04/06/2011
Your right about the Coffee Party. They have put alot of pressure on the GOP and they are starting to fear them. These people have a deep hate for anyone with a different point of view. Many are old relgious right members.
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camelias and sweet tea
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08:50 AM on 04/06/2011
Looks like the "Young Guns" of the GOP are rusty ol' pistols.
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Morpheus Flux
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09:01 AM on 04/06/2011
They certainly have no one that is impressive enough to give a second thought to. Who knows, in the end they will probaly nominate Jeb Bush and allow him the same fate as MCCain, so he can at least write a book about his campaign.
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ruthtruth
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08:50 AM on 04/06/2011
Just what we need, another few creeps to add to the list.
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Morpheus Flux
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08:59 AM on 04/06/2011
Yeah, how big of a field are they going to run, everyone iy seems, because they know they cant beat the president.
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Morpheus Flux
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08:44 AM on 04/06/2011
"but tons of us in the grassroots would work ourselves to the bone to get that ticket elected,” said Bob MacGuffie, a Tea Party activist"


Yeah, but they have no idea what we deomcrats are ready to do to re-elect the president to make sure their wetdream stops in Nov. of 2012. They must has already forgotton how we fought for his election. Democrats will come home by the millions and landslide anyone the run.

The same with the house, they gop better enjoy their brief moment, because we are coming back.
09:15 AM on 04/06/2011
Fanned & Fav'd!!
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07:35 AM on 04/06/2011
Kristol is now described as an "author", huh...?

Of course the attempt failed.
Republican candidacies today are enemy candidacies.

That's one respect in which the unprivileged classes win out:
There are many more millions of them.
cardiaccare
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07:30 AM on 04/06/2011
Has everyone noticed that the Mamma grizzly has disappeared?!
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wardropper
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07:36 AM on 04/06/2011
For Pete's sake, don't provoke her...
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bby328
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09:09 AM on 04/06/2011
Let sleepin' dogs lie :)
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comicpro
Stupid Should Be Painful
07:25 AM on 04/06/2011
Okay now that I stopped vomiting and laughing at the same time(TMI i know) this guy is "another floated for Presidential aspirations". Listen GOP I think my dog would make a great President and he is damn sure smarter than the Congressional Baggers we have in DC but lets get realistic. Paul Ryan once they start picking apart this lie he calls an alternative money saving budget will be lucky to keep his Congressional seat. These White Knight Saviors are nothing more thanlackeys for the rich. As you see at the top of the agenda are tax cuts for who: you guessed it!!!_uck this guy and I would love to see him and the President in a debate. President Obama would chew him up and spit him out!
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08:54 AM on 04/06/2011
Fanned and faved.