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Paul Ryan's Budget Proposal: Analysis Of The Numbers [UPDATE]

Paul Ryan

First Posted: 04/05/11 12:18 PM ET Updated: 06/05/11 06:12 AM ET

This story has been updated to include additional reporting.

WASHINGTON -- The big numbers from Paul Ryan’s budget: It will reduce spending by $6.2 trillion over the next decade and reduce the deficit by $4.4 trillion.

It also cuts the top income tax rate by nearly a third, from 35 percent to 25 percent.

A big part of the House Budget Chairman's plan rests on the assumption that President Barack Obama’s health care law will be repealed. Over the next decade, that would cut $1.4 trillion in spending alone, according to Ryan's budget. Those savings, however, wouldn't go directly to deficit reduction, because Ryan would also repeal the elements of health care reform that are aimed at raising revenue or reducing costs.

The Wisconsin Republican's budget spends less on nearly every major category of the budget. Over the next decade, Ryan (R-Wis.) wants to cut $389 billion from Medicare, the public health insurance program for seniors. Over the same period, Ryan's budget puts $735 billion less toward Medicaid, which benefits Americans too poor to afford private insurance. Discretionary spending on domestic programs is also reduced by $923 billion.

Two exceptions are security and defense spending and spending on Social Security, the public pension program for the elderly. Both are kept steady and relatively unchanged from Obama’s proposed budget.

A draft proposal from Ryan’s House Budget Committee says that under his plan, the national debt would be $1.1 trillion less than it would be over the next five years under Obama’s budget, and would add $3 trillion less to the debt than Obama’s budget proposal over the next decade. Ryan’s budget proposal would bring the debt held by the public to $13.9 trillion by 2016 and $16 trillion by 2021, compared to $15 trillion in 2016 and $19 trillion in 2021 under the president’s proposal. (The full national debt of just over $14 trillion also includes money owed to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, but the public figure is the one normally used for budget forecasts.)

Though Ryan's plan would reduce the size of the national debt as a portion of the economy - which is the key factor when considering the country's obligations to creditors - the addition of new debt in the short term shows the gap between talk of not raising the debt ceiling by many Republicans and fiscal reality.

Ryan’s plan has $40 trillion in spending over the next 10 years compared to $34.9 trillion in revenues. Obama would spend $46 trillion in the coming decade while bringing in $38.8 trillion in revenues. So Ryan's plan would still result in the government spending $5.1 trillion more over the next decade than it brings in, but that’s less than the $7.2 trillion in deficit spending that Obama has proposed.

The most fundamental difference between the competing budget proposals is seen in the way they envision the size of government’s imprint in the economy, as measured by spending and revenues as a percentage of gross domestic product.

Obama’s budget plan would take spending as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP), the total economic output of the American economy, from 25.3 percent this year to the 22 percent range for much of the next decade. But by the end of the 10 year horizon, his plan has spending back at 23 percent. Revenues, meanwhile, which are currently at an anemic 14.4 percent, would creep up to 19 percent by 2015 and then hit 20 percent in 2021.

It would be the highest amount of government spending since World War II. During the 12-year presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, spending went from 8 percent of GDP to 41 percent, driven by FDR’s New Deal but even more so by war spending.

During Harry Truman's administration, spending was cut in half, from 41 percent of GDP down to 20 percent, and went down further to 18 percent under Dwight Eisenhower. It stayed at 18 percent of GDP through the John F. Kennedy presidency, crept up to 19 percent under Lyndon Johnson, and then went up to 20 percent while Richard Nixon was in the White House. Gerald Ford brought spending back down to 19 percent of GDP, it then went up to 22 percent during Jimmy Carter's term, down to 21 percent under Ronald Reagan's two terms and George H.W. Bush's four years as commander in chief. Bill Clinton brought spending back down to 18 percent of the U.S. economy.

No president since FDR has increased spending as a percentage of GDP by more than George W. Bush, taking it from 18.4 percent of GDP to 22.8 percent.

Obama’s budget does not show what happens beyond the 10-year window. So, compared to George W. Bush’s spending, he seems to be about on par. However, projections from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) show spending growing at its current pace will grow to more than 26 percent of GDP in 2022, over 32 percent of GDP in 2030, 38 percent of GDP in 2040, and 45 percent of GDP by 2050, with the bulk of that spending driven by ever-rising health care costs.

Revenues under CBO projections would not move above 19 percent of GDP, leading to a gap between spending and revenues that would be difficult to sustain.

Ryan said a computer simulation program of what would happen in the future “crashes in 2037, because it can’t conceive of any way in which the U.S. economy can continue because of this massive burden of debt.”

Ryan’s plan would move spending back to historic levels, keeping it at 20 percent of GDP through 2030, and actually reducing it to under 19 percent by 2040. Ryan’s plan predicts revenues growing to 19 percent of GDP by 2040, allowing the national debt to be reduced over time.

The proposal landed in the middle of a busy news cycle where Washington is consumed with a spending fight over the current fiscal year budget, a much smaller portion of government spending that nonetheless will shut down the federal government if it is not resolved by Friday.

"Right now we’ve got some business in front of us that needs to be done," Obama told reporters Tuesday afternoon, declining to respond to Ryan's budget.

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[UPDATE: 4:36 p.m.] -- The White House later issued a response in the form of an e-mailed statement from White House press secretary Jay Carney that said the administration "strongly disagree[d]" with Ryan's approach, though they gave him credit for laying out a proposal to deal with the nation's deficit and debt. Here is the full statement from Carney:

The President believes that dramatically reducing America’s long-term deficit is essential to growing our economy and winning the future. Today, Congressman Ryan laid out his vision for how to do that, and he is right that we cannot solve our fiscal challenge by focusing on the narrow slice of domestic spending that has occupied so much of our recent attention. But while we agree with his ultimate goal, we strongly disagree with his approach. Any plan to reduce our deficit must reflect the American values of fairness and shared sacrifice. Congressman Ryan’s plan fails this test. It cuts taxes for millionaires and special interests while placing a greater burden on seniors who depend on Medicare or live in nursing homes, families struggling with a child who has serious disabilities, workers who have lost their health care coverage, and students and their families who rely on Pell grants. The President believes there is a more balanced way to put America on a path to prosperity. But despite our differences, all of us – Democrats and Republicans – have an obligation to find common ground in a way that is true to our values and meets our responsibilities to the American people.
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The reaction to Ryan's plan was predictably split along ideological lines, though even those who supported the broad contours of Ryan's plan did not embrace it in all its detail.

[UPDATE: 4:45 p.m. -- Rep. Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican who leads a group of the House GOP's 175 most conservative members as head of the Republican Study Committee, told the Huffington Post he was happy with Ryan's plan, with one caveat.

"We like the concepts," Jordan said in an interview. "We think it’s a lot of good work: saving Medicare, putting in a cap that makes sense on Medicaid. We just think that a lot of the reforms in our budget we’re probably going to have to speed up because we’ve got to get to balance."

In essence that means that Jordan's budget proposal, which the RSC is expected to release in the coming days, would cut spending deeper and in a shorter period of time than even Ryan's plan.

Jordan said in a statement posted online Tuesday afternoon that the timeline for balancing the budget under his plan would be a decade.

"The RSC is working on a proposal that builds off the Budget Committee’s effort and gets the budget into balance within 10 years," Jordan's statement said.]

Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America’s Future, delivered the harshest rebuke of the day to Ryan's plan.

"This is being hailed as courageous. It isn’t courageous; it is corrupt," Borosage said in a statement.

“Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget plan will push rising health care costs onto those least able to afford them – the elderly, the disabled and the poor," Borosage said. "It will do nothing to curb the rising costs imposed by the powerful complexes – insurance and drug companies, private hospitals – that now force Americans to pay twice per capita of any other industrial nation for worst results."

Rep. Chris Van Hollen, the Maryland Democrat who is Ryan's foil as the Budget Committee's ranking member, said the plan was a "lopsided approach" to deficit reduction that took too much from the disadvantaged and elderly in order to benefit wealthy Americans and big business.

"Behind the sunny rhetoric of reform, the Republican Budget represents the rigid ideological agenda that extends tax cuts to the rich and powerful at the expense of the rest of America – except this time on steroids," Van Hollen said in a statement.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat, called Ryan's plan "partisan and ideological."

"He provides dramatic tax cuts for the wealthiest, financed by draconian reductions in Medicare and Medicaid. His proposals are unreasonable and unsustainable," Conrad said. "His plan is most troubling because it lacks balance."

However, David Walker, the former U.S. comptroller general and founder of the Comeback America Initiative who is generally a fiscal hawk, said Ryan "should be commended for having the courage to lead in connection with our nation's huge deficit and debt challenges."

"His budget proposal recognizes that restoring fiscal sustainability will require tough transformational changes in many areas, including spending programs and tax policies," Walker said.

Among the 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty was quick to comment on Ryan's plan.

“Thanks to Paul Ryan in Congress, the American people finally have someone offering real leadership in Washington," Pawlenty said, but he otherwise steered clear of the details and focused on the coming fight over the debt ceiling.

"President Obama has failed to lead and make tough choices his entire time in the White House. While the budget is going to be debated for several months to come, the more immediate issue we face is President Obama’s plans to raise the debt ceiling next month. That's a really bad idea," Pawlenty said in a statement.

"With over $14 trillion debt already, we should not allow Washington’s big spenders to put us further in the hole. We must get our fiscal house in order with real spending cuts and with real structural reforms that stop the spending spree before it bankrupts our country," he said.

Even the conservative Heritage Foundation, which heralded Ryan's plan as "a monumental budget proposal for monumental times," dinged it for insufficient levels of defense spending and for not addressing Social Security.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney commented on the plan later in the day.

"I applaud Rep. Paul Ryan for recognizing the looming financial crisis that faces our nation and for the creative and bold thinking that he brings to the debate," Romney said in a statement. "He is setting the right tone for finally getting spending and entitlements under control."

"Anyone who has read my book knows that we are on the same page," Romney said.


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This story has been updated to include additional reporting. WASHINGTON -- The big numbers from Paul Ryan’s budget: It will reduce spending by $6.2 trillion over the next decade and reduce the d...
This story has been updated to include additional reporting. WASHINGTON -- The big numbers from Paul Ryan’s budget: It will reduce spending by $6.2 trillion over the next decade and reduce the d...
 
 
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realpolitic 04:55 PM on 04/05/2011
"Over the next decade, Ryan (R-Wis.) wants to cut $389 billion from Medicare, the public health insurance program for seniors."

Of course, Ryan must think there will be fewer seniors in America over the next decade when there will be many more.   Of course, Republicans want to leave them without insurance and dependent on  a private market which will screen for pre-existing  Read More...
09:13 PM on 05/26/2011
I do not buy the premise that tax cuts lead to jobs. Tax cuts may lead to some investment, but not necessarily in the USA. If a Billionaire gets a tax cut and invests in a multi-national company, then there is good chance that that company will use that additional capital provided to expand overseas and increase employment maybe in china or india and then ship whatever goods they produce back here for consumption.

I HAVE A STRAIGHTFORWARD SOLUTION: rather than extended the Bush era tax cuts, issue domestic investment tax credits. The rich can keep their tax cuts or some portion thereof, but not in the form of additional disposeable income. Instead, the government will issue DOMESTIC invesment tax credits for every dollar in tax cuts. The credits will expire within 12 months and can only be used to fund companies here, in the USA.

The rich/repubs get to keep their precious tax cut and we the middle class are gaurenteed that that money will be used to create job, expand plant, facitilities and technolog. Ryan's whole rationale for cutting taxes on the wealthy is that they invest and provide for capital for business to expand and hire people, well now we can hold them to that. In the event that they fail to invest in companies here, the government would be able to retain that money in the form of an unused tax credit and use it to paydown the deficit.

Me for President!
Peabodies
We are the Many. They are the Few.
08:33 PM on 05/04/2011
When I ponder Paul Ryan's ideas for the future of our country, images come to my mind:

"flash in the pan"

"canary in the coal mine"

"sacrificial lamb"

"sociopath".
09:19 PM on 05/26/2011
Here some more:

Bought and paid for by corporate american

Mathmatically challenged

Insensative

Geriatricocide

Half baked, illconceived, short sighted and not ready for prime time
06:35 AM on 05/04/2011
I HAVE READ ARTICLE AND POSTS HERE ARE MY HUMBLE THOUGHTS ON SUBJECT; 1ST. S.S. was never supposed to be part of budget what part does he not understand about that and if other govt agencied had left it alone there would not be a problem butt nooooo they used it like it was their own private ATM AND PD BK with IOU,S. SOME parts of medicaid need to be cked into YES there is misuse butt for the most part it does help the poorest of the poor . SRS. have NOT received a cost of living in 2 yrs PLEASEEEEtell me everything has not gone up {{{ SRS now as it is make choices food or meds}}}} by the way congress VOTED THEIRSELVES A RAISE WHATS SOOO WRONG WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:41 PM on 05/01/2011
The Republicans lose credibility by the day
06:40 PM on 05/01/2011
Lol and smh at reduction in top tax rate.
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
11:04 AM on 04/27/2011
A cornered market is one where sellers are able to control both the supply and the demand which inevitably leads to rising prices and profits far beyond inflation.

Sellers are able to do this through many means and it is important to understand that it is not necessary for sellers to collude or conspire to accomplish a cornered market on a commodity.

Sellers simply announce a price increase publicly or crimp the supply and if their brethren agree they soon follow suit and if they don’t they fall back to their previous price or supply level. Overtly this creates the impression of a normal market but in fact it is a subtle and sophisticated theater of price manipulation.

The two most blatant cornered markets today in America are energy and medical services. Until American consumers realize what’s happening to them and respond accordingly the gouging will continue unabated.

Unfortunately, both the Democratic and Republican response to these cornered market conditions fails to address or confess the nature of what’s happening to the victimized American consumers.
04:03 PM on 04/24/2011
The main reason that retiree health care costs will increase is that the private sector is less efficient at delivering care than the existing Medicare program. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that, under the Ryan plan, the increase in the cost of buying Medicare equivalent policies would be more than $30 trillion over Medicare's planning horizon.

This additional waste comes to almost $100,000 for every man, woman, and child in the country. It is approximately equal to six times the size of the projected Social Security shortfall. This waste is a direct transfer from retirees to the insurance industry and the health care industry.
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04:54 PM on 04/10/2011
OK, that's enough. In the absence of anyone else stepping up to the Ryan Challenge, I put together my own U.S. Budget, see http://www.mjbarkl.com/usbudget.pdf (yes, I'm qualified to do that) which not only ends deficits next year, it moves quite close to single-payer health care. Purifying numbers without OMB or CBO access is difficult, but such access will only increase the surplus for debt reduction or job-intensive public works projects or tax reduction or all three.
Best wishes,
--Mike Barkley, Candidate for Congress, http://www.mjbarkl.com/run.htm
08:01 AM on 04/10/2011
I love the fact that it tackles entitlements, I'm tired of these children who suck down my money and now maybe they'll spend their money a little wiser. I'm disappointed at the reduction in the top tax rate when it eliminates all the loopholes. I don't want a return to the foolish 90% levels of the 50s but It's foolish to at least make it a reasonable 40-50%. I want something that affects everyone, not just a one sided law. No one in this country is special, all of us need to bear the weight.
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07:06 AM on 04/21/2011
Taxing people at 40-50% is going on now if you count all the Sales tax paid on top of the Federal tax and let's not forget the State Tax too . . . . By the way - have you noticed the higher price's for any items w/Sugar in them? Rediculous. The wealthy haven't paid there fair share since Clinton. Time for them to make amends (imo)
09:45 AM on 04/07/2011
Paul Ryan's budget like so many Republicans before him, includes in his budget another tax cut for the rich and for corporations. Putting more of a tax burden on the average person.
When will people wake up to the Republican lies and mis-information (a nice way of putting it).
Now they are trying to scare us into pressuring our elected officials to pass his budget, by stating Social Security, our soldiers, Medicare and every thing else will not get paid and the government will collapse.

Wake up America.........
08:52 PM on 04/12/2011
I lot of people don't know this but 1st generation millionaires deviate a little from 88% to 92 %. This means approximately 90% started their own business not from inheritance but putting their own neck on the line. People starting their own companys in the beginning are lucky if they work less than a 12 to 16 hr. day. I don't understand especially liberals and progressive hold contempt for the rich. They went after the persuit of happiness with hard work at their own sacrifice, The federal government gave them nothing. If they were lucky enough to make it who, is the 1st one to rape their benefits? THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!!. Hey how about making this a flat rate for everyone instead of this progressive taxing. So I as a school teacher I was making say 50,000 a yr. at 15% would be 7,500. The milliomaire at 1 million would we be taxed 150,000. This is eqaul fairness in reality.
Lets face it. If the Federal government had a trillion dollars a year they would spent it. if they would tax us 20 trillion dollars a year they would spend it. Unfortunetly we as citizens can not behave as the Fed's do. When was the last time the fed's had a balanced budget. During the late 90's under Republican rule. Gingrich had to carry Clinton to the table screaming and hollering to sign it in to law. Why did Clinton do it? He was more worried about his legacy.
10:28 PM on 04/12/2011
Take a look at what the article really said.
The Wisconsin Republican's budget spends less on nearly every major category of the budget. Over the next decade, Ryan (R-Wis.) wants to cut $389 billion from Medicare, the public health insurance program for seniors. Over the same period, Ryan's budget puts $735 billion less toward Medicaid, which benefits Americans too poor to afford private insurance. Discretionary spending on domestic programs is also reduced by $923 billion.
If you remember Abama was almot doing the same as what Ryan proposes. He was going to cut 500,billion from Medicare & 275 billion from Medicade. The only trouble was his reduction would end up somewhere else than medicare or mediaid. Abama also indicated thar approx. 1/3 of Medicare was filled with fraud and bad accounting. HHhhmmmmmm Is'nt that true of any entitlement or fed. agency.
As I've indicated before the Fed. gov. spends 1/2 their time trying to fix problems they cause,
The more the Fed's. gets involved with our lives the more freedoms we loose
04:08 AM on 04/07/2011
As much as the GOP would like to believe that the country's budget woes are due to folks receiving Social Security, the fact is that America is like a guy who complains long and loud about his water bill going up twenty dollars, but he's dropping five grand a month on cocaine. America is addicted to war, and if we went cold turkey and stopped the - holy shit, THREE - wars we're currently waging, we'd probably have enough to go into the 2012 election as a solvent entity. It is unconscionable to bleed billions of dollars into wars that, for the most part, we should never have gotten into in the first place. We're like the dad whose kids go hungry because he's blowing all the family income at the track.
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Chevalier Dupin
02:04 AM on 04/08/2011
What are the 3 largest expenditures each year in the budget? Could one of them be social security?
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KELLI2L
07:24 AM on 04/21/2011
Social Security does not impact the governments Budget. Like all other insurance policies: people pay in .... to get out ....

The SS administration has a website, I suggest you review it before spouting untruths. . . .
09:22 PM on 05/26/2011
The only reason that social security is even a budget item is that govenment raided the fund and now has to provide the services that the fund was intended to provide.
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Chevalier Dupin
02:09 AM on 04/08/2011
Wasn't Obama supposed to bring the troops home or something to that effect? Yet the 2010 fiscal year, which began Oct. 1, more than $900 billion had been budgeted for military and diplomatic operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and other regions in the war on terrorism. Even before Obama's latest plan, the administration had requested about $140 billion for fiscal 2010, which would bring the total above $1 trillion.
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KELLI2L
07:30 AM on 04/21/2011
Seems like Obama dupped the people, and the people behind him (like Pelosi and others in government (who should have known) that what BHO was promising was not possible to achieve). Obama has 'flip-flopped' (nicer word for lied) on a whole list of things that got him elected.
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12:44 AM on 04/07/2011
Pretty Boy Paul wants to kill your grandma!
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Chevalier Dupin
02:05 AM on 04/08/2011
I just want to seduce her and have her leave all financial assets in my name...
08:58 PM on 04/12/2011
Sick
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10:34 PM on 04/06/2011
Path to prosperity? No, path to ruin!
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10:29 PM on 04/06/2011
Bush the Elder used to call it "Voodoo Economics," before good old Ronald Reagan convinced him record deficits were no big deal. Ryan's plan will produce even bigger deficits.
09:00 PM on 04/12/2011
How....Explain....He exlains the Bill very clearly
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09:35 AM on 04/13/2011
It very clearly says Ryan's plan will spend $5.1 trillion more than it takes in..