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Government Shutdown Threatened By Republicans Over Planned Parenthood

Government Shutdown 2011

First Posted: 04/08/11 12:36 AM ET Updated: 06/07/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The United States government is on the verge of shutting down over a dispute about subsidized pap smears, according to sources familiar with the budget negotiations.

The White House and Senate Democrats have publicly capitulated to ever-increasing Republican demands for spending cuts, but negotiations over the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year have shifted their focus from money to so-called riders -- provisions that restrict the federal government from spending money on certain projects or entities.

Riders are used by members of Congress to make social policy without going through the regular congressional committee process, or they are used to benefit business interests by specifically blocking the government from spending money to write or enforce certain regulations.

At a late-night White House meeting between the president and key congressional leaders, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) made clear that his conference would not approve funding for the government if any money were allowed to flow to Planned Parenthood through legislation known as Title X. "This comes down to women's health issues related to Title X," a person in the meeting told HuffPost.

The negotiations are dominated by men: All of the principal negotiators in both parties are male, as are most of the senior staff involved. (House Democrats, led by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), have largely been left out of key talks.)

House Republicans have been insisting the roadblock to cutting a new budget deal is not just the culture-war riders attached to the spending plan, but a source familiar with a top-level White House meeting earlier Thursday said most of the discussion in fact was about the riders.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and President Barack Obama met at 1 p.m., and while the discussion started with the numbers, a senior Democratic aide said it soon turned to non-budgetary provisions like defunding Planned Parenthood, Environmental Protection Agency rules -- and then some.

"They started talking about the money, but most of meeting was spent on the riders," a senior Democratic source said. "It wasn't just the top-line stuff. They got down into the smaller details and provisions -- things like mountaintop mining and other rules."

A similar dynamic played out late Thursday night in a meeting that led to no agreement.

Following the midday meeting, Senate Democrats met to chart a course forward and emerged united in opposition to any riders regarding Planned Parenthood -- which does not use federal funds to pay for abortions -- or the EPA.

"The riders that have nothing to do with deficit reduction have sort of taken over Boehner and the Republican Party," Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told reporters. "And unless they back off those riders, it's going to be impossible pretty much to avoid a shutdown. It's that simple."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the number-two Democrat in the upper chamber, said that Boehner was under pressure on social issues not from the Tea Party, but from senior Republicans. "It's not about reducing the deficit. It's about hitting programs. He's gotta cut programs. And we think still we can reach agreement on the money. But he is under enormous pressure and he says it's not from the Tea Party, it's from the old guard, the Republican guard, that wants to once and for all show that they can force through some of these social issues, like abortion," Durbin told reporters Thursday evening in the Capitol. "The rider list gets longer and longer and non-negotiable."

A GOP aide confirmed Durbin's claim that it's the senior members who are insisting on riders. Polls show that the public is likely to blame the Tea Party for any shutdown, but ironically, most new members are more passionate about spending than social issues. Yet the public is likely to conflate the Tea Party with the culture wars if the government ultimately shuts down due to a dispute over funding for family planning.

"It's mostly a few older members who have seen an opportunity," said the GOP aide. "If you were to ask the freshmen individually, only a few would say this is all about the riders. And even amongst that smaller group, they would be split," with some focused on the EPA and others on restricting funds for health care.

"The true Tea Party guys in our conference are all about spending. That's it. Whatever the final deal is -- even if we got [the National Right to Life Committee] to score it -- we'd lose some guys because it didn't meet the full $100 billion," the aide added.

HuffPost spoke to a number of GOP freshmen, many of whom said they were more committed to funding cuts than policy riders. Although most voted for Republican-sponsored policy riders, some said they were willing to compromise as long as the final figure for cuts was large enough.

"My motivation is reducing the threat of the federal budget deficit, and I am flexible as to what gets cut so long as things get cut sufficient to avoid a federal government bankruptcy," Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) told HuffPost in March.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Thursday that the spending-cut difference between the two parties was minuscule. "If you look at the amount of money that we're actually talking about, in terms of the difference of where the White House is and where the House Republicans are, it's equal to maybe one penny of the entire federal budget," Cantor said at a press conference. "So that means that you can't find one penny to cut out of every dollar that the IRS spends? You can't find one penny out of every dollar that the post office spends? That's what we're talking about here."

Pelosi identified the distinction between the newer Tea Party members and the old guard weeks ago. "I had followed the debate very carefully on [the previous spending bill] and the 200 amendments. The newer members are about money, the more senior members are about riders," Pelosi said in mid-March.

A GOP leadership aide, however, told HuffPost that the culture wars were not the sticking point. "Spending, spending, spending -- that's the big issue," said the aide, adding that the GOP wanted more than $33 billion in cuts.

Either way, Democrats have no plans to defund Planned Parenthood at the insistence of House Republicans, Schumer said Thursday night. "We have been against them from the beginning and we're not changing, nor should we. These are fights that have nothing to do with the deficit," he said.

Schumer said earlier Thursday that Democrats were ready to meet Boehner's number, but that Boehner was using money as a distraction so that the public wouldn't realize his members were fighting over cultural issues.

"The only reason the numbers aren't solved is because Speaker Boehner knows that if he did that, then everyone would know that it's the riders, and he doesn't want that out. But if you look at how many hours in the rooms of negotiators that discussing riders, it's predominant," he said. "The Speaker's folks have admitted that we've been fair on the numbers."

"At one point we had an agreement on money, even though Boehner denies it," said Durbin. "It's hard to believe they would shut down the government because they can't get a vote on family planning and Planned Parenthood. Honest to goodness. Is that what the last election was about? I don't think so."

Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, told HuffPost that the funding cut would be a threat to women's health. "We have three million come to us every year and two million come through some kind of federal program either for an annual pap or for birth control or for a breast exam or even prenatal care," she noted, adding that the cuts would disproportionately impact rural areas with relatively few medical options. "More than 70 percent of our health centers, more than 800 centers in the country, are located in rural America or communities that are medically underserved communities. That's what's getting lost here."

Conservative activists have long been pushing for cultural riders and, with Republicans back in control the House, have a chance to push them forward. "Why can't you slash Planned Parenthood and NPR and these -- these non-vital programs? Why can't you slash them?" Fox News host Bill O'Reilly demanded of Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) Thursday evening.

"Well, we're talking about health care. We're talking about education," Rangel replied.

"Health care is another matter," O'Reilly said. "That has to be taken very methodically because people's lives are affected. Nobody's life is affected by NPR. Nobody's life is affected by Planned Parenthood. These are options."

Mike McAuliff, Elise Foley, Laura Bassett and Amanda Terkel contributed reporting

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04:49 PM on 04/14/2011
Let's take a look at this another way. Polls (CNN, Rasmussen, etc.) all suggest that there are even more voters supporting the NRA as support Planned Parenthood. Now, the NRA is just about the only organization in the country that sponsors forearm safety and hunter safety classes. No one is going to deny that they do a lot of good. Some liberals,but the NRA has a lot of liberals who are members, too, object to the NRA because of it's generally conservative political leanings. But, because of the good it does, how about we give them a couple hundred million dollars annually, at leas as much money as the government gives to Planned Parenthood. But, let's not allow them to use that money for conservative political activities/ They can just transfer that money to a pot funding safety classes, target ranges, etc. There isn't one shred of difference between that and giving money to Planned Parenthood. And, of course, we could have the same hysterical arguments about taxpayers who object to that as we see here defending Planned Parenthood - "..they don't care about safety or children..", "..they hate men...", "..they want to see guns handled in an unsafe manner...", etc. Either we have public funding for the NRA or we defund Planned Parenthood.
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09:05 AM on 04/10/2011
These white guys need to go. Vote them out of office. This attack on women has to stop.
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06:08 PM on 04/09/2011
Can I call it or what:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Brandon_Baier/government-shutdown-planned-parenthood_n_846463_83697048.html

And as a result of playing the best legitigation game in the face of a deadline, the Dems gave up another 5 Billion in cuts, and got the riders out... but whats in there? did they have time to read it in the 15 minutes they had to vote? I am reminded of numerous strategic timelines to get legislation passed, and i am mad about ONE THING where Obama is concerned, I supported him for one reason in the begining, he promised us transparency. Yet every key debate, every peice of legislation, from this budget to the healthcare talks it has all been behind closed doors.
What happened to no hiding and "We are going to have our talks on CSPAN," he is the president after all cant he say "No More Locked Doors," LOL.

Why would Boehner want to keep talks in private saying that it wasn't in anyones interest to here the discssion? It was certainly in ALL of our best interests in oreder to determine would we hold accountable in the polls, but I suspect Boehner wouldn't want to be held account for anything he said in those talks, which explains allot.
12:22 PM on 04/09/2011
One of the major reasons that politicians want to make abortion and birth control hard to access is that pregnancy and child rearing keeps women out of the workforce and artificially lowers official unemployment rates.

That's also the purpose of abstinence only education - because they know it doesn't work and creates more young pregnant women. It's one of the reasons society is so baby obsessed and filled with pro baby propaganda. It's a great control system for the patriarchy.

It's also why they throw so many sexualized images at teens - because they hope that they will make babies before they are mature enough to think it through.
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GOP wants you to stay clueless; why co-operate?
10:04 AM on 04/09/2011
People, ESPECIALLY WOMEN ... need to pay attention; when the Baggers/GOP say they want to go 'back to the Constitution' as it was written under the 'founders' ... they MEAN it.

No vote for women ... and a Black man wasn't a full human being.

Now, this is just the facts .... why any woman or AA citizen would support the GOP or Tparty is beyond me.
03:43 PM on 04/09/2011
One of the major reasons that politician­s want to make abortion and birth control hard to access is that pregnancy and child rearing keeps women out of the workforce and artificial­ly lowers official unemployme­nt rates.

That's also the purpose of abstinence only education - because they know it doesn't work and creates more young pregnant women. It's one of the reasons society is so baby obsessed and filled with pro baby propaganda­. It's a great control system for the patriarchy­.

It's also why they throw so many sexualized images at teens - because they hope that they will make babies before they are mature enough to think it through.
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03:35 AM on 04/09/2011
It was like watching the WWE. It was a drama play put on by both parties to puff themselves up and posture when they all knew that there would be no shutdown. WTF did we all elect? Cons and libs, we've been had. I'm a screaming liberal and I put out a request to the conservatives that we change the elected to someone that will not do this drama play. Think about the past two weeks for a minute. Neither side was really doing what they said. They said one thing but they did another. We were duped and the media were duped into spreading the word for them.
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12:54 AM on 04/09/2011
God Bless Harry Reid. He may be the Senate Minority Leader, but he's been putting his political life on the line to preserve health care services for women, who compromise the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.

Here's my prediction for the 2012 elections: R.I.P. Tea Party. Courtesy of all those women they tried to harm, and all the rest who were deeply offended by it.
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12:56 AM on 04/09/2011
Whoops! Sorry - he's the Majority Leader, doing an outstanding job for American women.

"Hoist one for Harry."
11:27 AM on 04/09/2011
Just for the record, the tea party backed reps were not the ones targeting PP. It was the socially conservative Neo-cons but tea party folks would vote for cutting funding to vitually ANY pet project or government department.
02:16 PM on 04/09/2011
That does seem to be the case.
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12:31 AM on 04/09/2011
The teapublicans threaten to shutdown the government while at the same time trying to pin this on the Dems.

Do they not realize that the people paying attention to their cultural warfare will know the truth?
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SDH283
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10:08 AM on 04/09/2011
They aren't appealing to you or me --- that is the point.

They are appealing to a base that is largely undereducated and RABID with hatred for Obama.

They are counting on YOU to stay home and NOT VOTE ....

People, ESPECIALLY WOMEN ... need to pay attention; when the Baggers/GO­P say they want to go 'back to the Constituti­on' as it was written under the 'founders' ... they MEAN it.

No vote for women ... and a Black man wasn't a full human being.

Now, this is just the facts .... why any woman or AA citizen would support the GOP or Tparty is beyond me.
12:02 AM on 04/09/2011
The Dems should have called their bluff on shutting down the government. They would'nt have shut it down for very long, and they know it. Just a bunch of bullies yelling wolf...
11:48 PM on 04/08/2011
Wow. Bill O'Reilly is an ignoramus.
First of all, affordable treatment centers like PP focus primarily on other services (see: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/general-health-care-32720.htm) like PREVENTION, STD/STI screening, men's health, family planning, etc. Poor education re: birth control, gynecological mgmt (pap smears, HPV/cervical cancer/ STI/STD prevention), etc. has a direct relationship w/increased numbers of infections, diseases, and cancer, not to mention other preventable scenarios like babies born with birth defects (ie neural tube defects-preventable by simply ^ folic acid intake!) who end up in the NICU for MONTHS, an extremely expensive stay. Let us not forget the lifetime of medical bills ensuing thereafter. Add the uninsured mother factor and that figure rises even more so.
I don't necessarily consider myself pro-choice, but I know enough about women's healthcare to know that cutting funding for programs like PP would cause a bigger problem in gov't spending regarding healthcare costs in the long run (^ doctor's visits, ER/hospitalizations, diagnostics, treatments, medications, etc) esp. with so many uninsured these days. Basically, cost of prevention < cost of treatment, so don't shut down avenues that lead to prevention if your goal truly is solely fiscally based.
"Healthcare is another matter...nobody's life is affected by Planned Parenthood." Are you still sure about that one, Bill?
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11:47 PM on 04/08/2011
Lying, half truths and innuendo... Ain't America grand? It's not about the riders... it IS about the riders... oh, what I meant to say was... we're trying to force america to... Oh, I mean we're' trying to convince voters that the big corporations, well, they are gonna get their feelings hurt if we tax them. They are delicate souls, you know, with the rights of people, as it should be... so we're gonna make the people of america pay for most everything, just kind of spreaad it out. You know people outnumber the corporations who are... well, they're not a 'people' per se, but they have rights too.... and, uh.... you're not gonna quote me on this are you?

So goes another day in the life of a fool. Great.
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11:50 PM on 04/08/2011
I rather like that, Dennis. F&F.
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11:34 PM on 04/08/2011
For all the pseudo-science that the no-choice movement would put forth, they have time and again shown that they are motivated solely by their own religion. In my hometown, Charleston, SC, there are billboards rallying people against the right to choose to have an abortion that use quotes from the Christian bible as evidence for why it abortion should be eliminated. Not only does the very concept of a right being restricted purely for religious reasons go against the very spirit of these free United States - to say nothing of the constitutionality of such a thing - it disrespects the religion by assuming the speaker's interpretation is the only one that is right. One example:

"I am your Creator. You were in my care ever before you were born." Isaiah 44:2
The board showed a fetus. I am no expert on theology or history, just a simple Christian. But I do not interpret this to be a definition of when the fetus becomes a person, nor when, theisticly speaking, our soul enters the body. Rather, I see it as an expression of my god's love for me, my soul, not my body.

As my speech professor tells us, there are over six-billion people in this world, and they are all right.

These "riders" are simply an underhanded method of pushing their over-zealous agenda on the people by holding many of our important government-provided services hostage.
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11:52 PM on 04/08/2011
Yeah---I think "riders" are sort of like "pork", in a way.
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12:36 AM on 04/09/2011
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11:15 PM on 04/08/2011
This budget talk is like a football game. Tonight the GOP just pushed the ball into the Democrat's red zone. The 2012 Budget will score the GOP's first touchdown since they fired Nancy Pelosi from the Speaker's job.
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12:48 AM on 04/09/2011
And cutting health services for women is a touchdown how, exactly, for those women compromising the majority of all Americans?

If somebody were to take the Koch brothers out behind the barn and beat the crap out of them for funding attacks on women's rights and women's health care, not a lot of women would shed any crocodile tears for them.
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03:27 AM on 04/09/2011
No, what the Baggers did was show 1/2 the population that scoring it's political points is more important then they are.

Entire Title 10 Budget: 350 Million
Budget for Prostate Cancer research:550 million.

Which was on the table to cut, which one was never mentioned?

Men's health care? off limits.

Womens health care: Our entire focus, cut it, cut them off entirely.

This was NOT about the budget, and every women in the country knows or should no it.
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11:12 PM on 04/08/2011
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03:29 AM on 04/09/2011
Lets see the next poll shall we?

The baggers have no gone under 30 points, 26 points favoribility?

My prediction is this deal pushes Obama back over 50%?

Google what Reagan popularity was at this point in his presidency?

Come back when you have that info.