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Afghanistan Secret Prisons Confirmed By U.S.

Afghanistan Secret Prisons

KIMBERLY DOZIER   04/ 8/11 12:43 PM ET   AP

KABUL, Afghanistan — The CIA's infamous secret network of "black site" interrogation centers is gone. But suspected terrorists in Afghanistan are being held and interrogated for weeks at temporary sites, including one run by the elite special operations forces at Bagram Air Base, according to U.S. officials who revealed details of the detention network to The Associated Press.

The Pentagon has previously denied operating secret jails in Afghanistan, although human rights groups and former detainees have described the facilities. U.S. military and other government officials confirmed that the detention centers exist but described them as temporary holding pens whose primary purpose is to gather intelligence.

The Pentagon also has said that detainees only stay in temporary detention sites for 14 days, unless they are extended under extraordinary circumstances. But U.S. officials told the AP that detainees can be held at the temporary jails for up to nine weeks, depending on the value of information they produce. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the program is classified.

The most secretive of roughly 20 temporary sites is run by the military's elite counterterrorism unit, the Joint Special Operations Command, at Bagram Air Base. Working together with CIA and other intelligence officers at the site, JSOC questions high-value targets, the detainees suspected of top roles in the Taliban, al-Qaida or other militant groups.

The site's location, a short drive from a well-known public detention center, has been alleged for more than a year.

The secrecy under which the U.S. runs that jail and about 20 others is noteworthy because of President Barack Obama's criticism of the old network of secret CIA prisons where interrogators sometimes used the harshest available methods, including the simulated drowning known as waterboarding.

Human rights advocates say the severest of the Bush-era interrogation methods are gone, but the conditions at the new interrogation sites still raise questions. Obama pledged when he took office that the United States would not torture anyone, but former detainees describe harsh treatment that some human rights groups claim borders on inhumane.

The secrecy surrounding both the site and the rules governing how long such high-value targets can be kept shows that two years into the Obama administration, the White House still hasn't set definitive detainee policy, especially when it comes to how a high-value target like al-Qaida fugitive Osama bin Laden would be treated if caught alive.

CIA Director Leon Panetta said in February that bin Laden would be taken to Bagram first, then probably to Guantanamo Bay.

That's the last choice for Afghan commander Gen. David Petraeus, because of the damage it could do to the already fragile U.S. relationship with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, according to the three-star commander who heads Afghanistan's only theater detention facility, Vice Adm. Robert Harward.

Harward refused to comment on the existence of the classified JSOC facility, but he said the bin Laden debate illustrates "this unanswered issue of what do we do with high-value targets that require long-term incarceration in the future."

More than a dozen former "high value" detainees claimed they were menaced and held for weeks at the Joint Special Operations Command site last year, forced to strip naked, then kept in solitary confinement in windowless, often cold cells with lights on 24 hours a day, according to Daphne Eviatar of the group Human Rights First, which interviewed them in Afghanistan.

Eviatar said her monitoring group does not believe the JSOC facility is using the full range of Bush-era interrogation techniques, but she said there's a disturbing pattern of using fear and humiliation to soften up the suspects before interrogation.

Many of those interviewed said "they were forced to strip naked in front of other detainees, which is very humiliating for them," Eviatar said. "The forced nudity seems to be part of a pattern to make detainees feel disempowered."

The detainees also reported that their interrogators told them they could be held indefinitely, the group said.

Special Operations Command spokesman Col. Tim Nye denies the allegations, insisting the detainees are treated in accordance with U.S. detention laws, rewritten since the Bush era to prohibit the harshest interrogation techniques. "All detainees are treated humanely in compliance with all U.S. and international laws, including Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions," Nye wrote in an e-mail.

U.S. officials in Afghanistan add that Petraeus insisted on opening the Joint Special Operations Command site to inspection by Afghan officials and the International Red Cross last May.

International Red Cross ICRC spokesman Simon Schorno would not comment on the JSOC or conventional forces detention facilities, but confirmed the group "has access to internment, screening, and transit facilities under the control of the Department of Defense."

Schorno added that the Red Cross "has a transparent relationship with the Department of Defense and is satisfied with progress made as regards access to detention facilities."

Petraeus wanted to force more openness on the JSOC, a secretive organization that runs special missions units within the military to perform highly classified activities, according to a senior official briefed on the program, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss classified matters.

The official said part of Petraeus' logic was to ensure transparency to international monitoring bodies so the interrogations could continue because they are yielding intelligence that has helped quadruple special operations missions against militant targets.

When suspected insurgents or terrorists are first captured, they are interrogated in the field to determine their status in the insurgent hierarchy and their usefulness in terms of local, tactical military intelligence, officials said.

Detainees then can be held up to 14 days in a temporary facility before being either released or transferred to a public detention facility called Parwan that is jointly run by the United States and Afghanistan. The Parwan jail abuts the sprawling U.S. base at Bagram, north of Kabul, which also houses the secret "temporary" jail.

After the first two weeks in temporary detention, the first possible extension is for three weeks, for reasons including "producing good tactical intel" to "too sick to move," according to a U.S. official familiar with the procedure. The next extension is for an additional month, adding up to a total of roughly nine weeks in temporary detention before battlefield interrogators have to appeal for more time to the executive, either the defense secretary or the president himself.

The military has never pushed for that for any detainee, according to a former senior intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss classified matters.

It's unclear how many detainees are being held at the temporary facilities at any one time. Detention spokesperson Capt. Pamela Kunze says the number is classified, but it represents only a small fraction of the total number of detainees.

Last year, only 1,300 suspects out of 6,600 arrested across Afghanistan ended up at the Parwan detention facility, according to Harward.

There are currently some 1,900 detainees being held at Parwan, which has a capacity of 2,600. Parwan will gradually be handed over to Afghan control. The status of the temporary facilities likely would be negotiated as part of a future security agreement, transitioning power to the government of Afghanistan.

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06:22 PM on 04/12/2011
Yes USA still uses torture and illegal detention & other tactics that Obama denied & said he would stop. Thus Bahrain &other protestor disappearnces explained COPYCAT
06:19 PM on 04/12/2011
Article gives good explanation of why Protestors in Bahrain & other places disappear for weeks/month: copy of US policy!
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
02:59 AM on 04/10/2011
Oh now I get it...............if you have a Nobel Peace Prize you can run a secret prisons and torture people.
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02:53 PM on 04/11/2011
It's the 'pentagoon', stupid...!
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09:25 PM on 04/09/2011
How can Americans hold their head up when it continues secret prisons, rendition, continued detainment in gitmo, torture hidden under the veil of 'interrogation'.

Disgusts me
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02:55 PM on 04/11/2011
Ask the 'corporate-war-profiteers'...
08:44 PM on 04/09/2011
the Peace Nobel price winner must be proud
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02:57 PM on 04/11/2011
The 'price winners' are the corporate war-profiteers controlling the show...!
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tristrixi
Hon! Ministry of Love agents are at the door!
07:57 PM on 04/09/2011
Detainees in these "temporary detention sites," may be held up to nine weeks depending on the value of the intelligence they produce. PRODUCE. Well, that's a telling word. The more you produce the longer your stay. Orwellian at the very least, and an admitted feature of a system which serves only itself and its justification for being.
06:40 PM on 04/09/2011
Good. Now they have to confess about the rest of the "secret prisons" spread all over the world.

The question is ... why are they secret? Is there a reason why a prison should be secret?
No, there isn't. Execpt for the fact that some pretty nasty stuff is going on there. They startet as GW's secret Gestapo style Bunkers and Obama continues the practice.
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02:12 PM on 04/09/2011
Credit to source:
www.radioaustralianews.net.au/story.htm?id=31537
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OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
02:12 PM on 04/09/2011
Dutch troops leave Afghanistan after four years
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Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:18:00 -0400

Dutch troops have ended their mission in Afghanistan after four years.

Troops held a "change of command" ceremony at the main military base in central Uruzgan province where close to 2 thousand Dutch soldiers have been deployed.

The draw down is the first significant pull out of foreign troops from the Afghan war, now in its ninth year.

Experts say the Dutch withdrawal signals the beginning of a drawdown of foreign forces that will leave a worrying void at a time when Taliban-led violence worsens.

The Dutch will be replaced by an American-led coalition force including Australian, Slovak and Singapo
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05:17 PM on 04/10/2011
Who cares. They are wossies.
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10:59 PM on 04/10/2011
What would you say about Canadian forces when they leave next year...?
12:08 PM on 04/09/2011
Prisons should not be secret, neither should they be private. We should not be contracting military services. Torture and humiliation are crimes against humanity. Both occupations were based on lies. We will never clean up this country until we bring the criminals to justice. Osama bin Laden is no longer living, but they are still trying to posit this lie.

How revolting!
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DesertStormSeabee
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05:18 PM on 04/10/2011
Well get your lawyers and put your money where your mouth is
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10:36 AM on 04/09/2011
So, it's only human rights violations when other countries commit them, like in Cuba and Venezuela. It's only a coup d'etat when it's not US-supported. Such duplicity and hypocrisy in US foreign policy that Obama continues of course will never satisfy the right-wing. But then the one that really calls the shots is the MIC, ironically, among the most bipartisan group of all. One thing the HP can do is to maintain a link to a video clip of President Eisenhower's farewell speech on the MIC. Americans have a notorious reputation for their lack of interest in history and hence they need to be reminded time and again.
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05:20 PM on 04/10/2011
What human rights violation was broken? Got and statues, regulations any refernce to what was broken?
09:13 AM on 04/09/2011
CIA Director Leon Panetta said in February that bin Laden would be taken to Bagram first, then probably to Guantanamo Bay.

who the hell is Bin laden? We still chasing ghosts at a billion dollars a second?
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05:41 AM on 04/09/2011
"The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the program is classified."

I believe that is how the law works.

Classified materal can be disclosed to the press as long as you remain anonymous.

Correct?
Tim The Enchanter
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02:41 AM on 04/09/2011
"Wait, wait, we have breaking news. It was learned today that the military likes to keep information from the enemy in order to keep Americans from being killed, more at 6 on this astonishing revelation"
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05:51 AM on 04/09/2011
A favorite technique in Nam was to take two guys up in a helicopter - one who probably didn't know much and one who probably did.

Interrogate the "throw away" guy first and the throw him out when he didn't know anything and then start to interrogate the the the real target.

I'm sure that saved a lot of American lives and look how great Viet Nam turned out.

Pray for all our brave service men and women who are serving under the command of the gang of idiots who just passed .... forget it. I have to go vomit.
Tim The Enchanter
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10:27 AM on 04/09/2011
If we had a Republican in the White House instead of Kennedy and Johnson, we'd have won Viet Nam. Can't fight with two hands tied behind your back.
10:54 AM on 04/09/2011
And they hate us, why? Actually, I'm beginning to hate us with news like this.
06:26 PM on 04/09/2011
Well now, a poster who makes sense. Sweet.