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Dana Milbank Thinks It's Ridiculous That Lawmakers Would Attempt To Advocate For The Middle Class

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First Posted: 04/15/11 12:38 PM ET Updated: 06/15/11 06:12 AM ET

Seems like just a little while ago that the Washington Post's Dana Milbank was rightfully complaining about the rogering he was getting at the hands of the zombies at Citibank, and it spurred him to this flight of imagination that maybe other humans were experiencing the same sort of problem. One might have imagined that the experience would have lent Milbank some key insight into the reality that income disparity exists and that ordinary people are bearing the brunt of the bad economy. Only, when a bunch of Democratic lawmakers set out to try to ameliorate these problems, Milbank reverted to a position of hyena-bray ridicule. Relief from the predations of Citibank for me, tiny American flags for everyone else!

It was the members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus that aggrieved Milbank so terribly, when they decided that they might as well sketch out a vision for budgetary reform, the way Paul Ryan did. Per Milbank:

Among the highlights: A $4 trillion tax increase over 10 years. An increase in the top tax rate to 49 percent. A $2.3 trillion cut in defense spending -- and an increase in domestic spending. Oh, and they would revive the "public option" to offer government-run health care.

Oh, so they would address and try to square the health and wealth disparities that the middle class endures? What monsters.

Still, it gives a sense of how things would be if liberals ran the world: no cuts in Social Security benefits, government-negotiated Medicare drug prices, and increased income taxes and Social Security taxes for the wealthy. Corporations and investors would be hit with a variety of new fees and taxes. And the military would face a shock-and-awe accounting: a 22 percent cut in Army forces, 30 percent for Marines, 20 percent for the Navy and 15 percent for the airforce. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would end, and weapons programs would go begging.

Again, this is all just demonic, the way it would strive to keep older Americans from lapsing into poverty and require cuts to the military budget. The weapons programs that would "go begging," by the way, would be outdated ones that are no longer useful, like "variations of the F-35, MV-22 Osprey, and Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle." And it would end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? A key driver of our structural debt? That can't be a serious proposal. (And I guess that as mad as Milbank was at Citibank, he'd never for a minute suggest that they be "hit with a variety of new fees and taxes.)

Milbank says that "[e]ven the most starry-eyed of the progressives know the proposal is as much of a non-starter as Paul Ryan's House Republican plan." This is the same Paul Ryan who earned a tongue-bath from the media for his courage, though, so it's hard to see why this would have been an incentive against progressives assembling a set of their own priorities, even if they are "starry-eyed." Milbank imagines that there will be some utility to the progressive plan, in that it will give President Obama "a far-left counterweight to the far-right Ryan plan."

I think that actually the progressive plan will be useful, in that it will pressure Obama to hold his line instead of making further compromises in the direction of Paul Ryan. That way we won't end up with a compromise that's further out in the wrong direction. But then, unlike Milbank, I'm assessing the utility of this gambit from the vantage of the actual humans who will be impacted by the policy proposals, and not from the perspective that says policy is a means to the end of getting a president re-elected.

Milbank also seems to think that Ryan's plan "requires only spending cuts and actually reduces taxes." Actually, the Ryan plan shifts escalating health care costs onto the middle class, it raises -- RAISES, DANA, R-A-I-S-E-S -- taxes, and offers a lot of relief to the people Ryan deems to be the most needy in society, people like -- ha, ha! -- Citibank.

Here is Milbank's substantive criticism of the Progressive Caucus' Plan, in its entirety:

It's difficult to evaluate the liberals' dream scheme because they don't make projections beyond 10 years (after which entitlement spending problems become larger), and, rather than having the proposal "scored" by the Congressional Budget Office, they used as their referee the Economic Policy Institute, a like-minded think tank.

I'll concede that this plan should be subject to CBO scoring like everyone else. As for the criticism that it doesn't make projections beyond ten years, the simple fact of the matter is that these projections are rather limited in their utility anyway. The plan calls for increasing Social Security taxes, implementing a competitive public option, and lower Medicare prices, so that's how the "entitlement spending problems" get addressed. (Fewer Americans would die in Afghanistan under this plan, so maybe we should "score" the added burden all those alive humans place on society.)

That's about it, in terms of substantive criticism! Milbank thinks it reflects poorly on these lawmakers that it rained and they had to use umbrellas, and there's an emphasis on Rep. Raul Grijalva's (D-Ariz.) tie, which was not knotted to Milbank's standard. And you can tell that this is the stuff that Milbank was most proud about writing, because he opens and closes this doggerel with a discussion of precipitation.

Anyway, we dare not speculate on what life would be like if the Congressional progressives had their say in the matter. Per liberal economist Dean Baker, it's better to celebrate the alternative: "[T]en years of zero job growth, 25 million people unemployed, underemployed or out of the workforce altogether, declining real wages, millions of homeowners losing their homes, and tens of millions of homeowners underwater." The rain falls on the just and the unjust, I guess.

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Seems like just a little while ago that the Washington Post's Dana Milbank was rightfully complaining about the rogering he was getting at the hands of the zombies at Citibank, and it spurred him to t...
Seems like just a little while ago that the Washington Post's Dana Milbank was rightfully complaining about the rogering he was getting at the hands of the zombies at Citibank, and it spurred him to t...
 
 
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And that is why Ron Paul will never be President.
06:42 PM on 04/22/2011
Dana Milbank is a sociopath.
11:12 PM on 04/20/2011
The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor,
The wicked does not understand such concern.

Proverbs 29:7
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Sweetbay
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03:21 PM on 04/17/2011
"Milbank thinks it reflects poorly on these lawmakers that it rained and they had to use umbrellas..."


The good news for lawmakers is that they have umbrellas if they choose to use them while there are many among us who do not eve  own one, so every time it rains those without umbrellas are alwaysthe ones who get soaked.
10:32 AM on 04/16/2011
It's hard to tell without more information whether Milbank thinks the progressive ideal is off the wall, or the possibility of it passing is. I don't know his work well enough to judge, but I would suspect he thinks both. So he is both contemptuous and smug.

But my sense is that virtually all pundits, save for a few like Rachel Maddow, think the ideal itself is comical and ridiculous, and that they like things the way they are with their fat paychecks, easy, exciting jobs, and low tax rates, thank-you-very-much. Even a mild liberal like Mathews occasionally reveals his fat cat sense of entitlement, and refers to the left as extremist nutjobs.

Look, money is power. We haven't got a chance. The people with all the money have all the power, and they are going to keep it that way, and they have tens of millions of right wing stooges carrying water for them, guaranteeing that they will win the elections necessary to maintain the status quo.
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10:26 AM on 04/16/2011
Looks like Dana Millbank and a whole host of others never had to live on $25K a year, without any Healthcare Insurance. They have managed to make "being down and out" a crime. I don't get that, because there is more of US than there are of THEM. How did the rhetoric in this country become so crazy??
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10:06 AM on 04/16/2011
If DM is against it, I'm for it.
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bobclapp1936
09:57 AM on 04/16/2011
I like and understand your column, but surely you must also understand that Congress is a PLUTOCRACY where virtually everyone is rich ( at least in the top 10% of income ) Consequently, it seats NOT one person from the poor or middle classes. Try to imagine what legislation would look like if passed by those people. Since most of America fits those classes shouldn't they be at least the majority of Congress. Please do not insult me and try to "educate" me about that is what "representative" government is for; hence the "good" rich people in Congress will take care of the poor and middle class. In a word that's BALONEY! While it might be a little bit better with the Democrats than the Republicans, it will fall FAR short of the needs of the middle class, let alone the poor.
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03:32 PM on 04/18/2011
I agree with you 1000% percent because you're absolutely right. Thanks for saying it. f+f
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bobclapp1936
05:17 PM on 04/18/2011
Thank you. The problem remains greed and power particulary of the Republican Party.
08:25 AM on 04/16/2011
THE problem in America today is DEBT.

DEBT/CREDIT is NEWLY CREATED money. Banks do not LEND a dime. They essentially print money which is why there is always more money in the system (creating inflation).

Corporations absorb most new money so the longer the system survives, the more wealth and income gaps will grow since 90% of all new money goes to 5% of the people!

The system is DESIGNED to exacerbate wealth disparity over time.

Solutions?

Nothing simple or clean at all.

1. Take on NO new debts for ANY REASON. No cashback rewards, car loans - NOTHING.

2. Be frugal. Saving money means the next guy has less money to qualify for a loan.

3. Learn how our economic system functions and to whose benefit.

4. We will need a new economic system at some point as the one we are currently living under has very little life left in it. The "Federal" reserve system is basically a giant ponzi and that ponzi peaked in 2001. Since then, there has been one giant mega-attempt to paper over the reality of the broken system with cheap money, printed money and lies. Eventually - the 'top' will have to accept that the system is broken.
10:20 AM on 04/16/2011
Not true. You need revenue as well. But most teabaggers gloss over this in their starry-eyed ultimate mission to harm minorities and reward the wealthy.
10:37 AM on 04/16/2011
Debt is spending TOMORROW'S revenue TODAY at a COST (interest).

That's what DEBT IS.
10:38 AM on 04/16/2011
The problem in America is not debt. It's only a symptom of far deeper problems, including a political party that ran off the rails thirty years ago and is out to destroy the government that serves the people. But there are other problems, too, in the real world, that we never talk about and that will eventually beat us down if the Republicans don't do it first. And they have nothing to do with the financial world. They are real world problems.

In the end, money is an abstraction, a fiction, and it is folly to think we can conquer the universe with an imaginary entity.
10:45 AM on 04/16/2011
Money is real, not fiction...where do you think the whip marks on your back came from?

Seriously though....no one political party is destroying us any more than the other.

"Government that serves the people"

ALL gvmt does is give people their own money back!!!! Consequently - how can gvmt ever 'serve' anyone? Redistribution of wealth?! We already have that via 60% of Federal spending going towards Social programs.
07:44 AM on 04/16/2011
That's about it, in terms of substantive criticism! Milbank thinks it reflects poorly on these lawmakers that it rained and they had to use umbrellas, and there's an emphasis on Rep. Raul Grijalva's (D-Ariz.) tie, which was not knotted to Milbank's standard. And you can tell that this is the stuff that Milbank was most proud about writing, because he opens and closes this doggerel with a discussion of precipitation

Thanks for the chuckle this morning Jason. You are a funny, funny man.
And Dana Milbank is probably very embarrassed he wrote this. You took him to the wood shed. Keep up the good work of pointing out the absurdness of our serious Washington villiagers.
07:06 AM on 04/16/2011
What is so amusing is that Milbank's writes

"Still, it gives a sense of how things would be if liberals ran the world: no cuts in Social Security benefits, government-negotiated Medicare drug prices, and increased income taxes and Social Security taxes for the wealthy. Corporations and investors would be hit with a variety of new fees and taxes. And the military would face a shock-and-awe accounting: a 22 percent cut in Army forces, 30 percent for Marines, 20 percent for the Navy and 15 percent for the airforce. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would end, and weapons programs would go begging."

In his mind this is crazy talk, and it is a far left liberal dream. The truth as reported here a few weeks ago, when the people were polled and asked how to solve the deficit problem, that is pretty much as they saw the best way to do it.

Study: Public Sees Both Parties Cutting Deficits The Wrong Way
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/03/deficit-public-sentiment_n_830986.html

I guess Dana is trying to be the adult in the room, and the rest of us are just being children.
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06:33 AM on 04/16/2011
If the Progressive "People's Budget" were actually adopted , Not only would we balance the budget , increase employment , improve our infrastructure , reduce health care costs , and
solve all our fiscal problems , it would get this country out of debt . Not only that , but if we renegotiated our trade deals and limited the amount of interest that banks could charge on credit cards to 10% , This nation would see a prosperity that no one can now imagine .
The fundamental key to prosperity , is to have 80% of the people with more income than the amount required to pay their bills . There will always be poor people . But three people can support one regardless of the circumstances . 20% = poor , 20%=rich, 60%=middle class . You have to have a middle class of 60% or more because they are the ones who have to support the 20% who are poor . The rich 20% will never do anything for the poor , that is why they are rich . They fear poverty more than anything else and consider it a human disease which they must avoid catching .
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06:00 AM on 04/16/2011
The Washington Post was always neocon central so it is not surprising he would think military cuts were the most appalling. In other words most of there liberals are not real ones. That is why I strenuously avoid WP, and other old line newspapers.
05:37 AM on 04/16/2011
The progressive caucuses budget seems so reasonable to
someone like me who has only lived here for 5 years.
Without I lifetime of US programming the military budget
seems like pure insanity same goes for only having for profit companies
in charge of peoples health care and ditto also for constantly
lower taxes on the richest people in the history of the world without actually
asking them to invest in America in a meaningful way ie hire Americans and
not offshore all profits to tax havens.
Conditioning is a powerful thing and although many readers of this website
have broken that conditioning a large mass of Americans are fine with lowering
the taxes on Billionairs cos you know that will be them one day when they win the lottery
any day now
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05:22 AM on 04/16/2011
Who is Dana Milbank? She is important- Why?
07:30 AM on 04/16/2011
Dana Milbank is a member of Yale's secret society Skull and Bones. Its members are the USA's ruling elite, thus not making them members of the same species as the rest of us.
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Cleverboots
08:53 AM on 04/16/2011
Dana Millbank is a man. He writes a column for the Washington Post.