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Denny Rehberg Clarifies Pell Grant Comments: 'I'm Not Suggesting That College Students Are Welfare Recipients' (AUDIO)


First Posted: 04/18/11 03:03 PM ET Updated: 06/18/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) has taken some heat back home for comparing Pell Grants to being on the dole. The congressman, who's running for Senate in 2012, is now attempting to clarify his comments and stating that he never meant to portray low-income students as welfare recipients.

The controversy stems from an April 1 radio interview, during which Rehberg decried the fact that students who receive Pell Grants don't have any sort of graduation requirement and could go straight from the education grant to receiving federal food aid.

"You can go to college on Pell Grants -- maybe I should not be telling anybody this because it's turning out to be the welfare of the 21st century," the congressman said in an interview with Blog Talk Radio. "You can go to school, collect your Pell Grants, get food stamps, low-income energy assistance, Section 8 housing, and all of a sudden we find ourselves subsidizing people that don’t have to graduate from college. And there ought to be some kind of commitment and endgame."

After The Huffington Post first reported on his remarks, a Facebook group called "So Denny Rehberg thinks our Pell Grants are welfare?" popped up, and the issue made its way onto local Montana news.

Rehberg is now attempting to explain his comments. He's not fully backing away from comparing Pell Grants to welfare, saying the programs are attempts "to help those most in need" that are becoming financially unsustainable. But Rehberg insists that he never meant to compare the two recipient classes.

"The difficulty is, Pell Grants are an attempt to do the right thing, and that is to give the low-income student an opportunity to access higher education, and that's a good thing," he said in an April 5 interview with Voices of Montana. "And welfare was an attempt to help those most in need. The difficulty is, often times a program is so successful that it grows and grows and grows and grows."

"I'm not suggesting that college students are welfare recipients," he added. "I'm just saying that the program itself is expending so quickly it's moving beyond the federal government's ability" to pay for it.

To support his point, Rehberg said that, by expanding the qualifications for Pell Grant recipients as well as raising the grant level, "last year we spent about $19 billion nationwide on 9 million students. And next year, as a result of all those changes, it will cost $43 billion."

He also reiterated his frustration that a Pell Grant recipient could go to school for nine years and never actually earn a degree.

LISTEN:

Rehberg has been facing some criticism in Montana for voting in support of the House GOP budget resolution, which would reduce the maximum Pell Grant from $5,500 to $4,705 and narrow the eligibility of applicants. Financial aid officials at the University of Montana and Carroll College in Rehberg's home state recently told reporters that they were disappointed in his vote and urged Montana's two U.S. senators to preserve student aid funding.

Rehberg also voted for an amendment in that bill, which critics say would preserve some of the waste in the program. It prevents the Department of Education from enforcing a measure that would, according to Kay Steiger at Campus Progress, "pull federal aid from for-profit schools that have bad loan repayment rates, indicating that such schools charge excessive tuition [without] adequately preparing students for decent-paying jobs."

In Montana, 24,000 students are scheduled to receive a Pell Grant next year. If the House budget bill becomes law, the state would lose $15 million in funding for the program.

Rehberg is in a tight race to unseat Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.). Last week, Rehberg was one of just four House Republicans to vote against Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) budget plan, stating that there were "still too many unanswered questions with regard to Medicare reform."

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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) has taken some heat back home for comparing Pell Grants to being on the dole. The congressman, who's running for Senate in 2012, is now attempting to clarify...
WASHINGTON -- Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) has taken some heat back home for comparing Pell Grants to being on the dole. The congressman, who's running for Senate in 2012, is now attempting to clarify...
 
 
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06:47 PM on 04/20/2011
Welfare isn't what you think and say either. It is what we as a society are spending to take responsibility of what families used to feel the need to do - take care of those who cannot earn enough in the economy.
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cdecisneros
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07:03 AM on 04/19/2011
Typical Republican attack.
Same something outrageous.
Then take it back
Their base only hears the first part and acts like they never heard the take back.
That is why they still think that Iraq attacked the tower. Obama is a muslim etc.
01:18 AM on 04/19/2011
The first message speaks for itself.
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08:25 PM on 04/18/2011
You can attract a corporation to locate in your state. I shouldn't be saying this because corporate welfare is the 21st century welfare state.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
08:31 PM on 04/18/2011
I think being a paid politician is the worst form of welfare.
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Rightbrainedleftwinged
GOP Motto: If you can't beat em cheat em.
07:41 PM on 04/18/2011
Tester is a good Senator. I hope he wins. This is one race in the senate I want to make calls for out of state. He and Claire Mccaskill are senators who must hang on, or the Dems could seriously lose control of the Senate.
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morefromLA
A fighting liberal and proud of it
01:39 PM on 04/19/2011
So true.
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
02:43 PM on 04/20/2011
Tester is far from perfect, but you are right that he must and should win. Rehberg is such a [insert unspeakable word here]. We'll need all the help we can get here to keep Tester in the Senate. He deserves to be there, even though he has voted against things that I care about.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
07:14 PM on 04/18/2011
Not suggesting? His comment flat out stated that: 1) education is useless on the less-than-wealthy; and 2) it was setting up dependence, which directly was like welfare. Is this clarification just another #NotIndendedToBeAFactualStatement or what????

Pell Grants have helped a broad array of families afford an in-state education. I didn't qualify because I went out of state. This is just another sneering GOPee person who wants to take the poor and middle class's money and give them nothing for it.
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morefromLA
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01:40 PM on 04/19/2011
GOPee. Nice, now we know what's in that tea.
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fredvh
Just a small town Iowa guy
07:01 PM on 04/18/2011
So helping kids get a college educations is welfare?
In business they call that investments.
07:08 PM on 04/18/2011
A math, science, or engineering degree is an investment, which is why no congressman has gone after SMART grants.
07:23 PM on 04/18/2011
Agreed. Engineering is the future.
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fredvh
Just a small town Iowa guy
09:28 PM on 04/18/2011
i partially agree.
there are many degrees out there we need.
06:50 PM on 04/18/2011
Leave it to huffpost to find the creepiest picture ever.
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jwald1
Badges? I don't need no stinking badges!
07:49 PM on 04/18/2011
he kind of looks like a porno version of craig ferguson.
08:30 PM on 04/18/2011
In that angle and lighting anyone would look like a porn star.
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dlaroche
06:14 PM on 04/18/2011
This is what the Reps really believe in! This is what the Teabaggers really want. A country where the privileged have all the benefits.
05:36 PM on 04/18/2011
As a progressive, I hate to say that the man has several good points. Just wish he would have said them better the first time. This is a big problem in politics today. Republicans have to play to the extreme tea party base they have created, so they often say inflamatory wild statements that then infuriate the left, and the cycle continues back and forth. We've lost our ability to have meaningful, civilized debates.
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11:50 AM on 04/19/2011
Very true. A shame I accidently flagged it as abusive... sorry
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
02:48 PM on 04/20/2011
This progressive agrees that there should be a requirement to complete the degree, unless hardship (in spite of the grant) keeps one from doing so. You're right; if Rehberg had started from that point, things would have gone much better for him. I'm afraid his inflammatory approach wasn't just a misstep or a nod to the TP, but part of what he really believes.
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Jebus Chris
The 2 party system is a joke that's not funny.
04:53 PM on 04/18/2011
If giving 5K to aspiring poor college student is tantamount to welfare. What is giving 3.2 Billion to a company that made 14 Billion in profits?
06:42 PM on 04/18/2011
Our duty?

/sarcasm
katiekatt551
Fairness in opportunities for all
06:42 PM on 04/18/2011
Jebus...well said. That was an excellent question.. Do you think someone will give you an honest answer..Unfortunately, I don't think so.
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04:46 PM on 04/18/2011
Yeah, like that $5000 maximum a year Pell Grant is something people would want to take advantage of for 9 years without graduating? I'm not feeling the living on welfare thing in that kind of effort required to be doing that for that little money. 

He must have been channeling his inner Jon Kyl.
04:14 PM on 04/18/2011
Did this guy ever go to college or is he a dropout too. If you will notice, all the dropouts are against funding education.
06:52 PM on 04/18/2011
Rep. Rehberg graduated from Washington State
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morefromLA
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01:51 PM on 04/19/2011
Funny, when you look at notable graduates of WSU at wiki, Denny isn't listed. No need to embarrass the school.
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04:12 PM on 04/18/2011
The mean-spiritedness of the GOTP is endless. What kind of country do they envision? I can't fathom it nor would I want to live in it.

Diane
Anishinabe in MI
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LynnW49
"A great democracy must be progressive." TR
02:53 PM on 04/20/2011
I once asked a local ultra-right rancher in my rural Montana town what sort of town and surrounding environment he envisioned for his children. His answer; "I never thought about it." This from a man who has thousands of acres of beautiful country in his stewardship, and a lot of children/grandchildren. I know he doesn't speak for the entire right, but the attitude does seem reflective of the right. I just don't think the right thinks of future generations at all, or even 5 years ahead, unless it is to plan for increasing their wealth and that of their friends over the long term.