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Lobbying Push Targets New House GOP Lawmakers On Debt Ceiling Vote

First Posted: 04/20/11 11:26 PM ET Updated: 06/20/11 06:12 AM ET

Debt Ceiling Vote Lobbying

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - They have been in Washington barely four months but the 85 first-term Republicans in the House of Representatives have found themselves the target of a massive lobbying campaign by Wall Street banks, big business and the Treasury.

The fiscally conservative freshmen are under intense pressure to vote to raise the cap on U.S. borrowing so that the United States can continue to pay its bills after May 16. The Obama administration has expressed confidence that a deal can be reached with Republicans but Wall Street is less sure.

Yet there are signs the intense lobbying effort is falling flat. Many freshmen still insist they will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless it comes with legislation to slash America's $1.4 trillion deficit.

This is no ordinary class of rookie Republican lawmakers. Many are aligned with the loosely organized conservative Tea Party movement that is devoted to dramatically scaling back federal spending.

After being elected to Congress from relative obscurity, they are being lavished with attention and receive almost daily warnings that a failure to raise the debt limit will trigger a global economic catastrophe.

There are invitations to meet with Wall Street executives, coffee mornings with business leaders, calls from the Treasury Department, visits from economists, and weekly hour-long meetings with John Boehner, the Republican speaker of the House.

The lawmakers are reminded frequently in these meetings about the concerns America's foreign creditors, especially China, have about the prospect of a U.S. default. Chinese officials in Washington say they are watching the debate closely.

"There is no question about it -- there is a lot of pressure being put on the freshman," Michael Grimm, a first-term Republican from New York, told Reuters.

"I have had meetings in D.C., meetings in New York, meetings with Fortune 500 companies, meetings with financial institutions," he said. "I get invitations to meet with boards of directors, or a group of CEOs, from insurance companies, big banks, community banks, financial institutions, small businesses.

"And the message is: not to raise the debt ceiling will lead to a catastrophic event. I understand that. But if it doesn't come with serious cuts and real systemic reform, it's just short-term relief."

CRUCIAL VOTING BLOC

The Republican freshmen are seen as a crucial voting bloc in the looming battle over whether to allow the U.S. to go deeper into debt to avoid defaulting on its loans.

The lobbying campaign is unusual in that it spans almost the entire financial and business community -- often natural allies of the Republicans who now oppose them on the debt issue.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has said the nation will hit its current debt limit of $14.3 trillion in mid-May, and a refusal by Congress to raise it would be "catastrophic." Geithner already has sent two letters to members of Congress urging them to back the move.

Economists say a failure to raise the ceiling would trigger a crisis in bond markets and possibly another recession. Interest rates would soar and foreign investors would lose confidence in America's creditworthiness.

China, the biggest foreign holder of U.S. debt, warned Washington this week to protect investors in its debt after Standard & Poor's rating agency threatened to lower the United States' coveted AAA credit rating.

"The budget issue has international consequences," one Chinese official in Washington told Reuters. "We are of course following it," another official said.

HAGGLING OVER COFFEE

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which has held dozens of meetings with Republican freshman on the debt ceiling issue, is sending a letter to every member of Congress next month urging them to vote to raise it.

"We have told them we understand it's a tough vote," said R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president for government affairs at the Chamber. "But we also tell them this is about the full faith and credit of the United States and the consequences of a no vote will be dramatic."

The Financial Services Forum, a financial policy organization that includes the CEOs of some of Wall Street's biggest banks such as JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America, has focused almost exclusively on the House Republican freshmen.

FSF officials have held meetings with freshmen and their staff in their Capitol Hill offices, in the FSF's Washington office and in "meet and greet" sessions over coffee.

The freshmen are not told how to vote but they are told of the dire consequences if they do not -- investors will flee, interest rates will spike, the markets will panic, and higher interest rates will explode the deficit.

Yet many are standing firm. "I am not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling if it does not include long-term structural reform to reduce the deficit," one Republican freshman said.

(Reporting by Tim Reid and Rachelle Younglai; Editing by Ross Colvin and Bill Trott)

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booker52
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11:35 AM on 05/12/2011
Most are baggers and totally clueless
04:14 PM on 04/21/2011
We have got to have full government reform. It's ludicrous that we allow just anybody to sit in congress and senate pulling the strings for a whole entire country. Some of those people don't their you know whats from a whole in the ground. We have absolute quacks like bachman, V fox etc. Most couldn't pass a constitutional or civics test. What business in America would allow them to be CEO of their company? Not a one. Why then are they allowed to make decisions that affect the entire United States of America? this is all absolutely astounding!
04:21 PM on 04/21/2011
They don't need to be the CEO of a company. CEOs are already pulling their strings like little puppets
04:00 PM on 04/21/2011
The US needs an international Debt Consolidation Firm...not in China though.

Oh and to all you Rep Newbies on the Hill - Stand Strong!!
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Ish11
03:48 PM on 04/21/2011
Tea party did not hire them...Karl and Koch did...they need to know who is boss.
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justitia
03:38 PM on 04/21/2011
Raising the debt ceiling is not a problem per se. Spending is not a problem per se. It's HOW and WHERE you spend.it on. Big Business of course want to raise the ceiling so they can get more tax breaks and leave the people to shoulder them. If you spend the money on new industries (like green energy), mass/public transit infrastructure, education, health and affordable housing, that's real investment for the future. and on human resources and ultimately sustainable economy and environment. In the end, it's how you spend the debt that determines how you're able to manage, if not eliminate, it and the deficit.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:04 PM on 04/21/2011
Do you want the US government to borrow a lot of money from individuals and governments in the wealth creating industrial nations and then spend that borrowed money on green jobs, renewable energy, infrastructure renewal, (welfare, unemployment, social security, national healthcare, police, firemen, school teachers, wars) and similar non wealth creating expenditures?

Only the national sovereign debt will increase.
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booker52
avid reader
11:37 AM on 05/12/2011
We need to raise revenue something the 16th amendment allows. The GOP thinks we are running a business, we aren't, we are trying to run a government.
03:25 PM on 04/21/2011
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Very good counter argument. I have to commend you on your use of critical thinking. I am sure you are the pride and joy of your political affiliatio­n.
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Is that all you got?? I comprehend people like you, you have nothing to effectively demonstrate your comprehension of the issues at stake so you post what is told to you. The fact is that many, too many of our fellow Americans are struggling in this time in history and that people such as yourself, fail to recognize that, and that probably, unless your are rich, you will be doing without, too. That people would be in favor of something that directly affects them is beyond logic.
But, go ahead and repeat what is being sold to you because if you fail to comprehend this, you will be asking yourself what happened, when you find yourself in a dire situation. And, I repeat,
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Steve Rockett
03:18 PM on 04/21/2011
What irony. Boehner's only potential allies are liberals.
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drichfatcat
You just don't understand
03:09 PM on 04/21/2011
When Democrats have voted no on the debt ceiling you never heard a peep from Wall street or the state-run media.
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Aggressive Progressive
My Karma ran over your Dogma.
03:09 PM on 04/21/2011
Let them vote their conscience (or what passes for it).

The nice thing about this is that either the global meltdown will or won't occur. And, if it does, those 85 will be on record as to how they voted.

We will know who they are and those Americans who will see the rest of their nest eggs dissappear can express their displeasure with them.
05:43 PM on 04/21/2011
Does it occur to others that if there is a global meltdown it will be because this was a Ponzi scheme to begin with? It will collapse at some point.
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zwyziec
We've Peaked!
02:54 PM on 04/21/2011
Our nation is facing the same situation as did France in 1790 and today in Mexico.

Louis XVI needed to raise income. The First Estate (the church) was untaxed both in income and property taxes. They said “you can’t tax god!” Today, there is $1.5 trillion of untaxed church property sitting around and each church is a non-profit paying no taxes on income.

The Second Estate (the nobility) had been granted freedom from taxation for centuries. They said “You can’t tax us because we are your army.” Today, we have over 10,000 millionaires and 412 US billionaires who have offshore accounts and are paying the lowest tax rate in history, and want still more tax cuts. And there are thousands of corporations of which 66% are paying ZERO taxes and they too want more tax cuts and fewer regulations.

The Third Estate (the proletariat, the wage earner, the populace, the middle class, us!) incurred the full burden to pay all the taxes as well as the evils of all the cuts in services, just as is happening today.

In Mexico the police and the drug cartels work hand in hand.

In the USA, the legislators and the corporate lobbyists work hand in hand.

In Mexico it's drugs. In the USA the drug is greed and power.

Maybe history will repeat itself.
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drichfatcat
You just don't understand
03:10 PM on 04/21/2011
Part of your answer to a world history final next week?
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roxiehart
They both reached for the gun
03:30 PM on 04/21/2011
The fact that "The Second Estate", top 1% of taxpayers, pays 38% of income taxes dosen't fit into your analogy. Too bad. It was such a nice story.

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
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callinguonit
Did I Miss the GOP comeback?
04:01 PM on 04/21/2011
Honey that is misinformation fron the National Taxpayer's Union..............from 2008.
You do realize that this group is organized to try and stop the paying of taxes
The top 1% pay 35% of INCOME TAX...
Not the all important Payroll taxes which funds Social Security etc...Read below.
Payroll taxes (deductions for Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance) are mostly paid by the bottom 90 percent of earners. When they're factored in on top of income tax, the gap between the tax rates at the very top and everyone else shrinks even more—so much that the effective tax rate for people earning more than $370,000 is nearly the same as for those earning between $43,000 and $69,000 a year.
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4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
06:21 PM on 04/21/2011
The NTU is your reply?! LOL! If the rich don't like taxes they can move to that nice oasis of Non-Government called Somalia. But if they want to stay in the good 'ol USA they need to sacrifice like everybody else during War times. Example: that "liberal" Eisenhower and his 91% Tax Rate on people making over $400,000 per year. Oops. He like Truman were trying to pay for a World War and the Marshall Plan. But, in your world the Poor can be taxed into Serfdom or go off to die in War and the Rich Aristocracy can count the money and send their kids to Ivy League Schools. This has been tried before; the poor eventually rise up against the Church, King, Rich Aristocracy, whatever.
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ProfessorDuh
02:49 PM on 04/21/2011
As Jaime O’Neill has observed, “Now that they no longer hold the purse strings, the Republican Party has decided that its only role is to obstruct all attempts to heal the illness they visited upon the nation, the huge financial mess that occurred due to their profligate spending, the lax oversight of the financial markets, and the deeply embedded corruption they nourished under the guise of deregulation. Having brought the nation (and the state) to the brink of ruin, having run up the national debt to astronomical levels, and having cut taxes on the wealthiest people in the country while running a couple of expensive wars, the Republicans have suddenly become fiscal conservatives again.”
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seeksthetruth
FAUX News: Junk food for your brain
02:44 PM on 04/21/2011
The GOP/TP love to invoke Ayn Rand as they think her philosophies justify their selfish, greedy behavior. At least Rand admitted she was a Sociopath and anti-democracy. She thought the ultimate human being was a jailed sociopathic serial killer, William Hickman, whom she worshipped because he only served himself and had no regard for society. She said people like him were the only ones worthy of love as selfishness is the supreme virtue and altruism is evil. She thought the rich should rule the world because everyday working people are “parasites”.

Rand also didn’t believe in Science. She insisted there was no correlation between smoking and cancer, much as her followers don’t believe in climate change or other Science. When Rand, a smoker, developed lung cancer in her later years, she relied on Medicare and Social Security. Yes, like her followers, she thought it was fine to take from others even though she didn’t want to contribute toward them. After all, she was just following her own self-interests.

About 1-5% of the population are Sociopaths. Many GOP politicians and CEOs are Sociopaths. They don’t care who suffers or dies in their insatiable pursuit of self-advancement.
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roxiehart
They both reached for the gun
03:33 PM on 04/21/2011
climate change or other Science = oxymoron
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HawaiiSteve
be your own lamp... let truth be your light!
04:49 AM on 04/22/2011
What advanced science degrees do you hold? I'm just wondering what makes you qualified to dispute the findings of 95% of the world's climatologists.
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
02:42 PM on 04/21/2011
IF Americans default on their obligations -- the Republicans are solely to blame. Produce & vote on a clean bill.
02:57 PM on 04/21/2011
the 14T 'debt' mostly to our own bankers has nothing to do with real 'obligations'. It is a result of a con job of the fed bankers that spun out of control (like in Mike Judge's movie "Office Space" when the guys intended to steal fractions of a penny, but due to glitch found their account with thousands of dollars). Busting that con and ignoring should be a real obligation of our government to the American people.
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callinguonit
Did I Miss the GOP comeback?
04:04 PM on 04/21/2011
If you don't believe us "LIBERALS"... believe the Chamber of Commerce...They invested all of their money to purchase some Senate Seats...
If the debt ceiling truly would not effect the Gov't business and its wealth...They would not be in the least concerned.
02:40 PM on 04/21/2011
All contacts between lobbyists and elected officials and their staff and families ought to be recorded and mad public immediately. Otherwise this is not a democracy, just a fraud. Also, no company or person ought to be allowed to spend more on lobbying than they pay in taxes. No taxes, no influence. Period.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:11 PM on 04/21/2011
Or legislation making those actions federal crimes should be enacted.
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Lock Piatt
05:36 PM on 04/21/2011
"When the taste for physical gratifications among them has grown more rapidly than their education . . . the time will come when men are carried away and lose all self-restraint . . . . It is not necessary to do violence to such a people in order to strip them of the rights they enjoy; they themselves willingly loosen their hold. . . . they neglect their chief business which is to remain their own masters."
— Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America, Volume 2)
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cris robin
you're unique, just like everyone else
02:38 PM on 04/21/2011
the tag line sounds like a fox news teaser ..