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Todd Akin: Cutting Defense Would Deal With 'Wrong Problem'

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First Posted: 04/21/11 07:24 PM ET Updated: 06/21/11 06:12 AM ET

By Colin Clark
Editor, AOL Defense

WASHINGTON -- The battle over the defense budget took a new turn, with The New York Times issuing a rare lead editorial about defense in which it called for steep cuts to some of the Pentagon's biggest weapons programs. In reply, one of the most senior House experts on defense rebutted the paper's call for major weapons cuts.

The Times editorial said the Pentagon should: terminate the Marine Corps version of the Joint Strike Fighter; cut the rest of the Joint Strike Fighter buy in half; kill the V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor program; slice one carrier group and reduce the number of air wings by one. At the same time, the paper did not call for any cuts to the number of military personnel. It did call for a cut of 10 percent to the civilian Defense Department workforce.

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), chairman of the House Armed Services seapower and projection forces, dismissed the Times' reasoning.

"If you took a look at the numbers from 1990 to the present, what you find is that in military strength in macro numbers, the number of soldiers, the number of ships, the number of aircraft is 50 percent of where we were in 1990," Akin said.

The real budget problem, Akin said, is that civilian entitlements "are out of control." You could cut the entire defense budget, as well as all non-defense discretionary spending -- which does not include entitlements -- and you would just get to a balanced budget at the cost of "no prisons, no state parks, no House, no Senate, no departments of Energy, Commerce, Justice..."

Entitlements, Akin said yesterday at a ceremony at Boeing's F/A-18 plant here to celebrate delivery of the 500th Boeing Super Hornet, have grown from 4 percent of the Gross Domestic Product in 1965 to 13 percent now. Over the same period, defense spending dropped to 4 percent of GDP from 9 percent.

Akin's conclusion: "So cutting defense is dealing with the wrong problem. Defense is down; defense has been cut. "

Last week's GOP budget plan called for virtually no cuts to the defense budget.

The man in charge of the F-35 program, which would suffer most grievously should the Times' recommendations be adopted, replied very carefully today that the decision to cut would have to come from someone above his pay grade. Vice Adm. David Venlet told me that large cuts would increase the price of each plane, something the eight allied countries that plan to buy substantial numbers of the plane, would find painful. When a country reduces the number of a weapon it buys, that often dramatically increase the politically sensitive unit cost of the system. That can set up a death spiral where the price becomes politically unsupportable and the system is killed.

Venlet met yesterday with the senior acquisition official from each of the nine: the United Kingdom, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Australia, Denmark, and Norway. Israel also plans to buy F-35s but is not considered a program partner since it is not helping to fund the research and development phase.

Britain has already pulled out of the short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) variant of the F-35, as part of its defense budget scrub. Italy, which plans to buy substantial numbers of the more expensive and complex STOVL version, is especially concerned about any more reductions to that program.

The admiral noted that the test program has accelerated substantially since the beginning of the year. The three models of the F-35 have collectively flown 1092 hours. The air force version, known as the F-35A, has logged 295 flights for 520 hours. The carrier version, known as the F-35C, boasts a more modest 53 flights with 81 hours, but the carrier version is quite similar to the air force version. Its greatest testing will come during carrier takeoffs and landings. The complex and troubled Marine version of the plane, the F-35B, has made 379 flights for 490 hours in the air, Venlet said.

The program faces an important Defense Acquisition Board meeting at the end of May and the Pentagon has begun talks with maker Lockheed Martin about the fifth early production contract. "We are going to need to show that costs are under control," said Venlet, who is becoming a master of the careful answer as he guides the largest defense program in American history.

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By Colin Clark Editor, AOL Defense WASHINGTON -- The battle over the defense budget took a new turn, with The New York Times issuing a rare lead editorial about defense in which it called for stee...
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Dennis Bohner
Retired and crazy from denial
11:53 PM on 05/29/2011
The fact is that the "Peace Dividend" was destroyed by a need for a war footing which benefits only the Powers That Be. Weapons generate NOTHING that matters to our economy. Maintaining standing armies in far off and economically marginal lands is beyond stupid. Destroying cultures of the militarily weak enables the perpetual hatred of endless enemies. It's all detrimental to our long term survival. A prosperous nation pursues the interests of the populace. (Food, Education, Shelter and Peace, damn it!) This engenders loyalty and a commitment to the society. I don't see us as the good guys in this adventurism. As a veteran I find that we have a reprehensible set of policies in place. This includes most foreign aid which is used to purchase weapons from us instead of directly benefiting the very needy world.
Slashing the Defense budget will free us of a sick and dangerous preoccupation with imperialism. It will put money back in circulation where it can do the most good and deny the death cult now dominating politics.
Wake up folks-the coffee is singing your lips.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
06:38 PM on 04/23/2011
Yeah, the F-35 is soooooo special that you can't commit it to battle. What exactly is the point of building fighter planes and other assault vehicles if you do not or cannot use them because they are sooooo expensive. That Akin is opposed to military cuts is not surprising since Missouri is the home of quite a few very large defense industries.

Look, everything must be on the table if you are willing to cut social spending on those who need it most. Our military doesn't need to be this big. Because we have this powerful military, the militarists in the Congress are the ones always pushing us to go to war, e.g., John McCain and friends.

We must become realistic. We are a bankrupt nation, we have maxed out our credit card. Something has to go. These military actions and the housing of military troops all over the world has got to stop. Fine, if the Europeans want our troops stationed over there, then start paying for it, same goes for Korea, Japan, Iraq and any other place we have troops buried. If the world wants us as a peacekeeper, then start paying us. We cannot be the policeman of the world for gratis anymore.
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
08:08 PM on 04/23/2011
Exactly....and who are we going to use those very, very expense fighters against? The fact is we could repeatedly upgrade the avionics and electronic packages of the FA-18 and still have a superior jet over anyone. China might have a Stealth, but the fact is it is NOT the plane that makes the difference it is the Pilot.
Than we add the Missile defense system on the chopping block. That fiasco has cost almost 1/2 of a Trillion dollars, and it can only hit its targets 40% of the time, and that is knowing in advance when it will launch, where it will launch from and where it is aimed ad.

We have so much we could cut in the Military Budget without even touching the pay and benefits for the troops. If we closed all nonessential bases overseas and return those units stateside that would be a HUGE stimulus package for any areas that got a unit.

And I am a Vet and I still think the sacred cow of the Military needs to be cut.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
01:22 AM on 04/24/2011
I could not agree more.!!!
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
05:13 PM on 04/23/2011
Imagine that, a Republican who doesn't want to cut anything from pockets of the military industrial complex. They have no problem cutting veterans benefit, underfunding supplies for the troops and paying the average soldier on a scale below the poverty line BUT don't you dare touch our multi-billion dollar boondogles that help us get re-elected.
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PeterFormaini
02:19 PM on 04/23/2011
" Defense is down; defense has been cut. "

I stopped reading (and taking this GOP clown seriously) right here.
12:29 AM on 04/23/2011
Its all out of control.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
07:17 PM on 04/22/2011
EPILOGUE
(last part of sentence cut off when post comment button pushed)

Re-submit last paragraphThere is a clear disconnect for effectively solving the most pressing challenges which are facing all of Humanity towards maintaining our own existence beyond the 21st century, & what is actually occurring within the institutions that govern our society for which the American people must finally awaken to reclaim our honor, dignity & global solidarity for the future of our Children."

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Flower Power Forever
07:14 PM on 04/22/2011
EPILOGUE

The Capitalist Class in their effort maintainingr 3% economic growth rate of capital accumulation to maintain this fiction for a sustainable world of material well-being into a viable future using our vast military industrial complex to assure the worlds natural resources are kept in their hands will simply not sustain the Human Race beyond the 21st century.

So how is the Human Race going to sustain itself against challenges of reducing global per capital fossil-fuel demand versus finite amount of dwindling natural resources & potential increase in regional military interventions over resource competition?

How are we going to bring the world together in an effort of human dignity & solidarity to build a sustainable global economy based on post carbon era solutions to save our Biosphere with 6.8 Billion cowboys all acting as autonomous individual agents in pursuit of their own self-interests & utility with the Capitalist Class having created the inverted totalitarian state in which they use the military industrial complex to maintain global hegemony over the worlds remaining resources with the most effective killing machines in human history, designed & funded through the political economy they have purchased?

There is a clear disconnect for effectively solving the most pressing challenges which are facing all of Humanity towards maintaining our own existence beyond the 21st century, & what is actually occurring within the institutions that govern our society for which the American people must finally awaken to reclaim our honor, dignity & global solidarity for the future of
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
07:11 PM on 04/22/2011
PART 5

The fact is that there must be a sea change in philosophy if w are to have a future worth living for our Children & Grandchildren where the collective conscience of America must join through a collaboration of distributive knowledge & wisdom about how w share in an empathetic vision of making the necessary decisions to think global & act local as we have done in northern California if we are to leave a future worth living in for our Children & Grandchildren & generations beyond that is a sustainable quality of life they are entitled to & w can deliver.

The philosophy & cultural roots of our consciousness can be traced back to the period of the European Enlightenment which characterized human nature as our being autonomous individual agents energized to pursue our own self-interests & utility for achieving the American Dream.

And it was remarkably effective in building Middle Class working families on the new frontier of the North American Continent in a world which was being colonized towards Manifest Destiny & material well-being which ultimately brought us to a present period of time where 50% of us are living above our means in a non-sustainable environment with a large carbon footprint, with the bottom 40% of the human race living on $2.00 a day or less barely able to survive.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
07:09 PM on 04/22/2011
PART IV.

Recently my Nephew, a Staff NCO who was with the U.S. Army’s 4th ID in Iraq had expressed to me how killing the enemy has now been reduced to reflexive conditioning just like you see in video games.

This country since the time I was born right after WWII has made a complete 180 from the kind of society we are today where it seems how we treat our fellow man is nothing more than superficial where we don't want to feel anymore, especially empathy & compassion & maintain some sort of semblance for human dignity at least, let alone expressing those kinds of feelings outwardly from your heart to another fellow human being.

At least that has been my experience far & wide in America, especially for the last 25 years & getting exponentially worse as time goes on; quite frankly I am of the opinion our society is sick & dysfunctional & needs a period of restoration, healing & renewing of its spiritual dimension that reward us with respect & honor among most nations; quite the contrary today.

We were known as peacemakers not aggressive warriors.
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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
09:44 AM on 05/29/2011
There was also a time when we spent more on education than incarceration. Fanned and faved.
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Kestrel10
07:05 PM on 04/22/2011
We spend $700+ Billion per year on defense. It is almost half of the discretionary budget. The military budget is a morass of wasteful spending. People like Akin have absolutely no interest in trying to rein the military in. Why? Private military contractors give Akin's campaign money and they own him. He works for them, he doesn't work for his constituents. Akin's only goal is to stay in Congress and the best way to do that is to get money.

The bigger problem that our large and quite capable military represents is that politicians, Republicans and Democrats, want to use it. This is why are involved in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Columbia, etc. If you have a weapon, you use it. We should have a military base in Okinawa because the Japanese should take care of themselves. This is true for most of overseas military bases. We have still have a Cold War military and we no longer have no Cold War.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
07:05 PM on 04/22/2011
PART 3 of 5

So imagine how this solder feels about killing on behalf of his honor country Family, essentially having learned these are all the right reasons on the one hand, yet my inner moral compass is telling m something entirely different.

General Patton said for us to make the other guy die for his country, rammer that?
I think former West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd’s dissenting & most quieting voice in the Senate chamber over going to war in the Middle East.

Where was the conscience of the American people?

If ever a time in our history that the American people need to conduct a serious inflection about our about the military industrial complex w have now created a monster unleashed on humanity for the sake of economics was the lone voice of reason, bless his heart, play their neuron-video camera feed live with so many innocent people torn Middle East nano-seconds bring the deliberately which is why this society has become so twisted & - - -ked up, because this is clearly abnormal behavior & why were now the most effective &have record braking.

It used to be a time not that long ago, like my 2 uncles who served in the 504th PIR Airborne in Europe against the Germans & my Father served as Naval Aviator in Pacific & Guadalcanal would tell m about how so many of their fellow comrades had difficulty shooting to kill another man except in defense.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
07:01 PM on 04/22/2011
PART II

After WW II the military realized the majority of soldiers were not shooting to kill the enemy in a deliberate fashion because when given the time to think about what you are doing triggers & ethical dilemma when it’s for real ,versus in training simulations & when Army studies revealed after the numbers of soldiers who hesitated & did not shoot to kill ran upwards of 75%, the Army was shocked and began looking at ways to change that paradigm

From Korea to Viet Nam the kill ratios escalated to where the numbers are nothing short of phenomenal in the theatres of war in Iraq & Afghanistan.

Training now is a video game & it’s called reflexive conditioning where the Army reduced the pre-think time down to 0. Solders simply sweep the area with fir with no thought of who gets killed & why so many civilians in Iraq & Afghanistan have been killed.

This helps explain commensurate numbers of kill ratios vs. number of PTSD Case’s for veterans now coming back home from war & why the suicide rate is so high with soldiers having to re-live those moments where innocent men, woman & children have been brutally killed.

Imagine reconciling that in your head; on the one hand your thinking, " wait a second I love my country and was told I am protecting the security of America by killing its enemies, & this is how they trained me to do it for which I have
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
06:57 PM on 04/22/2011
PART 1 of 5

So much of the billions of dollars that are spent on contracts go to maintain healthy testosterone levels with a Republican workforce, because I remember many years ago when I worked as a Fire Marshal at Rockwell Space Group in so Ca how everybody who worked there was on pins & needles during the 1980 election & were so excited when Reagan got the nod because that meant job security for those working on the B1-B portion of the bomber, since Carter shelved the B1-A program.

Same is true for the military service branches who in my experience over the years (1968-2002) are mostly Republican's for the same reason taking it much further to the extremes supporting the John Wayne aspect of our culture & warrior attitudes, which admittedly I had adopted into my own character & lifestyle during the high strung days of my youth & early adulthood when I first went to work for DOD.

The facts are that you’re a member of the warrior class either in uniform or civilian you vote for the money on the table & lots of it & the Republicans have always served this class well, although the Democrats have as will in their own right when we look at LBJ & Mac Namara during the Viet Nam War era.

That's how companies like Black Water make their fortunes by turning killing your fellow man into a commodity.
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
08:10 PM on 04/23/2011
How many people do you think are going to sit here and read your multi chapter post? Let me answer that for you....NO ONE.

Use a nice Military Term....KISS.....Keep It Simple Stupid. Or Keep It Short & Sweet.
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R2D2-51
Flower Power Forever
02:40 AM on 04/24/2011
Well it's clear it wasn't meant for you, so move on if you care not what someone posts.
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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
09:46 AM on 05/29/2011
I read it. And appreciate it. It only needs to be short and simple for the stupid.
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WorldisMorphing
Jaded Iconoclast ...
06:12 PM on 04/22/2011
...a magnificent display of slight and crass intellectual laziness if there ever was one....

I could do a point by point debunking of this post...but the whole reasoning is so blatantly one-dimensioned (yes... one, not two...) amateur, willful dishonesty that only one sentence suffices to make it crumble:
--Look at a U.S. Budget pie chart..
If entitlements go under the knife (I personally don't think it should)...the waste department (defense) will sure as [....] have to go through it too...and no, 35-60 billion (lol) won't do the trick...
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Thumbody
just for the halibut!
04:16 PM on 04/22/2011
Has he fallen and he can't get up in this picture?
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Ruyur
I can't believe you like money too. We should h...
10:49 PM on 04/25/2011
Na, he was straddling the barrel yelling "check out my big willie", hooting and hollering. Then the military liason officer got sick of that and yanked him off the barrel; the picture shows him falling off the tank with his eyes closed in anticipation of impact because the officer got sick of his mouthy insults and pushed him.