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TOM RAUM   04/23/11 11:44 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- The United States has never defaulted on its debt and Democrats and Republicans say they don't want it to happen now. But with partisan acrimony running at fever pitch, and Democrats and Republicans so far apart on how to tame the deficit, the unthinkable is suddenly being pondered.

The government now borrows about 42 cents of every dollar it spends. Imagine that one day soon, the borrowing slams up against the current debt limit ceiling of $14.3 trillion and Congress fails to raise it. The damage would ripple across the entire economy, eventually affecting nearly every American, and rocking global markets in the process.

A default would come if the government actually failed to fulfill a financial obligation, including repaying a loan or interest on that loan. The government borrows mostly by selling bonds to individuals and governments, with a promise to pay back the amount of the bond in a certain time period and agreeing to pay regular interest on that bond in the meantime.

Among the first directly affected would likely be money-market funds holding government securities, banks that buy bonds directly from the Federal Reserve and resell them to consumers, including pension and mutual funds; and the foreign investor community, which holds nearly half of all Treasury securities.

If the U.S. starts missing interest or principal payments, borrowers would demand higher and higher rates on new bonds, as they did with Greece, Portugal and other heavily indebted nations. Who wants to keep loaning money to a deadbeat nation that can't pay its bills?

At some point, the government would have to slash spending in other areas to make room for any further sales of Treasury bills and bonds. That could squeeze payments to federal contractors, and eventually even affect Social Security and other government benefit payments, as well as federal workers' paychecks.

A default would likely trigger another financial panic like the one in 2008 and plunge an economy still reeling from high joblessness and a battered housing market back into recession. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke calls failure to raise the debt limit "a recovery-ending event." U.S. stock markets would likely tank – devastating roughly half of U.S. households that own stocks, either individually or through 401(k) type retirement programs.

Eventually, the cost of most credit would rise – from business and consumer loans to home mortgages, auto financing and credit cards.

Continued stalemate could also further depress the value of the dollar and challenge the greenback's status as the world's prime "reserve currency."

China and other countries that now hold about 50 percent of all U.S. Treasury securities could start dumping them, further pushing up interest rates and swelling the national debt. It would be a vicious cycle of higher and higher interest rates and more and more debt.

The U.S. has long been the global standard for financial stability and creditworthiness, with Treasury securities seen as a fail-safe investment. But after the near-shutdown of the U.S. government and a new credit-rating report this week questioning the country's fiscal health, Treasury bills and bonds are losing luster.

If there is a debt limit deadlock, the government by this summer could find itself legally unable to borrow more money to pay its bills, beginning with interest on its debt and gradually extending to day-to-day federal operations. At some point, the government would have to decide which bills to pay and which to put aside.

The debt ceiling will be hit on or around May 16, the Treasury Department says. Unlike the threatened government shutdown, the impact would start slowly, but then build mightily until the damage would be so dire that few political leaders or economists even want to contemplate it. The day of reckoning could likely be delayed at least until early July with creative bookkeeping.

When the House first rejected the Bush administration's $600-billion bank bailout in September 2008, the Dow Jones industrials went into a dizzying 778-point tailspin. A whiff of a possible similar stock market collapse came on Monday with a sharp selloff on Wall Street when the Standard & Poors lowered its outlook on U.S. debt to "negative" from "stable," possibly a first step toward a possible downgrade of America's coveted AAA credit rating.

"We haven't downgraded it. We just said, if nothing happens, we may have to," said S&P chief economist David Wyss. He said a government default remains uncharted territory, "which is one reason why it's not a good idea to hit the debt ceiling."

"There's reason to worry," said Wyss. "But my best guess is that we sort of muddle through this. Cuts will be made, they'll be too little too late, but at least they will be enough to maintain a triple-A rating."

"It's another game of chicken. And this time there are Mack trucks going at each other, not bumper cars. This is a biggie," said American University political scientist James Thurber. But he predicted that, as in the past, "there will be an accommodation. They will avoid a crash."

Investment bank J.P. Morgan Chase recently concluded that any delay in making an interest or principal payments by the Treasury "even for a very short period of time" would have large "long-term adverse consequences for Treasury finances and the U.S. economy." The analysis is being circulated on Capitol Hill by supporters of raising the debt limit.

"If anyone wants to push that button, which I think would be catastrophic and unpredictable, I think they're crazy," JP Morgan CEO Jaime Dimon said recently of those seeking to block raising the debt limit.

House Speaker John Boehner and most other GOP leaders agree on the need to raise the debt limit – and don't want to be held responsible for a new financial meltdown. Still, they want Obama to make more concessions on spending cuts than he has done thus far. That isn't sitting well with liberal Democrats, who think Obama has already given too much ground.

One reason the two parties can't find common ground: they can't even agree on what's causing high deficits. Democrats mostly blame it on policies of George W. Bush: two wars, tax cuts that continue to benefit the wealthy and an expensive prescription drug program. Republicans see government spending as the culprit, particularly on Obama's watch.

In fact, the main reason is the deep recession, which slashed tax revenues and led to hundreds of billions of dollars in recession-fighting spending by both Bush and Obama. The debt was $9 trillion in late 2007 before the start of the Great Recession, and it's just a sliver under the $14.3 trillion limit today.

Even though GOP leaders say they want to avoid more economic chaos, there is a large crop of tea-party aligned Republicans threatening to refuse to raise the cap under almost any circumstance. Polls suggest a large percentage of Americans oppose raising the debt limit.

The debt limit has been raised ten times over the past decade. Obama voted against Bush's debt-limit increase in 2006 as a senator, accusing Bush of "a leadership failure." Obama recently apologized for "making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country."

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WASHINGTON -- The United States has never defaulted on its debt and Democrats and Republicans say they don't want it to happen now. But with partisan acrimony running at fever pitch, and Democrats and...
WASHINGTON -- The United States has never defaulted on its debt and Democrats and Republicans say they don't want it to happen now. But with partisan acrimony running at fever pitch, and Democrats and...
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guveqzero
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12:28 PM on 05/30/2011
But, it could be the best thing that ever happened to our country as well. When financial policy has fallen into disaster, time to push the reset button.
01:23 PM on 05/05/2011
America’s fiscal situation is serious. How serious is a popular debate and I think that many Americans agree that something needs to be done sooner rather than later.
I think raising the debt ceiling is absolutely necessary for two reasons. The first reason being that no budget plan currently up for consideration puts a dent in the budget for 10 years much less balances the budget before 2037, as the Simpson Bowles plan proposes for example. It would therefore be impossible to keep federal spending under the current debt ceiling. Critics of raising the debt ceiling would argue that congress has a moral obligation to stop spending over the debt ceiling immediately in order to reclaim Americas trust in government, which leads me to my second point. If congress does not agree to raise the debt ceiling credit rating agencies such as the S&P, perhaps even Moody’s, could proceed past giving the U.S. a negative outlook to threatening to strip the United States of it’s AAA bond rating. The mere thought of this, even though highly unlikely, would cause uncertainty among many Americans. Uncertainty and unpredictability are the two main ingredients for stalling economic growth and I don’t think anyone wants that. This is why the debt ceiling should be raised, popular or not.
06:00 PM on 04/28/2011
Perhaps the US should sell some of its' gold to payoff the deficit.
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RevSpaminator
Life is too short to drink light beer!
04:29 PM on 04/25/2011
Wow, this scenario sounds like a great opportunity for someone with lots of cash (tied up in oil and/or gold) to step in and score some sweet bargains. Then we would all live in the true utopia preached by the Free Market - Wealthy Pay Nothing advocates. Good thing no one will dare to raise taxes on the wealthy to pay down some of this debt. I for one will welcome our new feudal lords.
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deminmo
just looking for answers
01:08 PM on 04/25/2011
Isn't the US technically bankrupt if they are not paying
debt off without help from foreign investors, and are barely
paying interest on the debt?
11:43 AM on 04/25/2011
Repugs are simply rehashing the demagog's politicization of the issue from the Bush admin. Yeh a default would be bad, but then again, so is the spending. We ought to cut both out.
10:42 AM on 04/25/2011
If you people think that by raising the debt ceiling it will stop default you are mentally ill . All the gov. Is doing is creating a larger debt. With no plan capable of paying it back. People of means are buying gold and silver driving the price to housing 07' levels of worth. A few years ago there was a paper published of the most valuable things you could own in acomplete melt down number one was a plow... Number two was a bucket... and three was seeds ...
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librainstars
even the smallest things in life make a difference
09:35 AM on 04/25/2011
If you put this very simple and I mean simple. You run a household. You have x amount of dollars to spend. Lets say for a bit you get the bright idea as most of us have before. You get a credit card.
One more bill added
Now the normal thing would be when trying to pay your bills and you cant anymore.
You STOP spending.
quoted "One reason the two parties can't find common ground: they can't even agree on what's causing high deficits. "

Seems right now the two wars we are in and what we are doing in Libya is costing us alot.
At this rate we will and prolly are broke.
We are as far as Im Concerned still in a recession

quoted " The debt was $9 trillion in late 2007 before the start of the Great Recession, and it's just a sliver under the $14.3 trillion limit today."

very simple your budget is 10 dollars. Dont spend more than you have.
06:00 AM on 04/25/2011
History has shown that only one government in all recorded history has ever cut their budget and paid down their debts. That was the US after the civil war. One, out of all of history. Our politicians today will never take the hard road, they're gutless. We're going to default like every other country whose ever reached the point of no return.
07:44 AM on 04/25/2011
Essentially. So why not default at 14 trillion instead of 100 trillion. Seems to me the sooner it happens, the easier it will be.
05:56 AM on 04/25/2011
Actually we don't know if a default would be the worst thing for the US economy. They made all kinds of dire predictions if the Icelander people didn't bail out their banks, Iceland didn't bail them out and none of those predictions came true. If TPTB are even mentioning a default, then you know it's going to happen.
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Trepasky
Sanity is neither free nor easy
08:08 AM on 04/25/2011
Seems the folks in Iceland experienced some problems from the default.
After reading the quote below, consider our default could be much worse.

"The financial crisis has had serious consequences for the Icelandic economy. The national currency has fallen sharply in value, foreign currency transactions were virtually suspended for weeks, and the market capitalisation of the Icelandic stock exchange has dropped by more than 90%. As a result of the crisis, Iceland is currently undergoing a severe economic recession; the nation's gross domestic product decreased by 5.5% in real terms in the first six months of 2009.[7] The full cost of the crisis cannot yet be determined, but already it exceeds 75% of the country's 2007 GDP"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis
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kurgen99
03:48 PM on 04/25/2011
Iceland???The rest of the world's economy is not ANYWHERE near as tied in or dependent on Iceland's economy as the are the United States. There cannot be any meaningful analogy here. Default by the US could cause a cascading failure for many economies if not the entire world economy.
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fgbouman
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05:32 AM on 04/25/2011
Question for anyone proposing to block the debt ceiling increase: a. Will you give up your job in order to stop the increase? b. Will you give up half your wealth to stop the increase? That is, of course, exactly what they will be doing to themselves or others when they block the increase. Too bad we can't tie resignations to a "nay" vote on the debt ceiling increase.
02:53 PM on 05/27/2011
Some questions for you: a. Will you continue to borrow money your children will have to repay, just so you can live beyond your means? b. Are you willing to let the country go into complete bankruptcy in 12 years, when spending on entitlements interest on the national debt will consume 100% of all revenues?
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4QDC
Bring it on Hoffa!
02:21 AM on 04/25/2011
Three words: End The Fed
02:03 PM on 04/25/2011
The Fed has nothing to do with this.
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01:20 AM on 04/25/2011
The more I read about all these dire warnings from the bankers, the Treasury Sec, the economists etc. the more I hope we will actually default. Except that the banks have probably already made provisions for this, taking short positions on treasuries and the dollar and so forth. And the US gov't is probably already planning to cut back on Social Security, Medicare and so forth so that the wars and the military spending can continue unabated.

That's the important thing - keeping our military in action all over the world.
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fgbouman
Curmudgeon & Designer
05:35 AM on 04/25/2011
Apparently you don't think that your job will go down the drain or don't have any wealth that will plummet like a rock when the ceiling isn't raised. I don't for a minute like the situation we're in, but I'm not so foolish as to cut off my nose to spite my face.
05:57 AM on 04/25/2011
It's going to happen anyway, either they decide now or they let the market decide. The default is coming.
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deminmo
just looking for answers
01:10 PM on 04/25/2011
Are there any speculators out there betting that the US
will default so they can clean up right before the crash?
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jabailo
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11:56 PM on 04/24/2011
A default would be the end of ends to the counterfeiting operation that has been devaluing the worth of people in this country for the last 3 decades. It would harm only the paper hangers. The majority would benefit from default as their hard earned dollars would rise.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
12:12 AM on 04/25/2011
Right, let's just walk away from our debt, like a Californian in an under-water mortgage. Right, that'll happen.
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Trustfunded1
01:16 AM on 04/25/2011
Hate to break it to you but any nation that holds reserve currency status and takes in 10x more in tax revenue that it pays on it's interest can NEVER default.

It's mathmaticly impossible.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
11:44 PM on 04/24/2011
Who said anything about the US defaulting?!

This outrageously speculative yellow journalism specifically created to feed the voracious 24 hour news cycle has got to stop. It's getting ridiculous.
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jabailo
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11:57 PM on 04/24/2011
It's time to default and be done with the burdensome debts put on the future by the past.
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
12:01 AM on 04/25/2011
Oh, so it's YOU spreading the US default rumors. Quit it!
Before you know it somebody is gonna be taking this seriously.