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'Birther' Polls: Independents Unaffected, Republicans Remain Divided

First Posted: 04/28/2011 6:00 pm Updated: 06/28/2011 5:12 am

WASHINGTON -- The release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate Wednesday took many observers by surprise. Many pundits questioned the timing and the political wisdom of the announcement, a sentiment White House Communications Director Dan Pfieffer seemed to confirm. He suggest to reporters at that morning's press briefing that it might have been in the president's "long-term political interests to allow this birther debate to dominate discussion in the Republican Party for months to come."

But that may not have been the case. The most recent public polling on the issue shows that, overall, doubts about Obama's birth had been growing glacially at best, and not at all among independents. While the vast majority of Obama supporters and swing voters give the "birther" theories little credence, the controversy sharply divides Republicans. Moreover, even though release of Obama's long-form birth certificate is dramatic and unparalleled, it is unlikely to make a significant dent in any of these attitudes.

Here are five key findings from public polling that help put the "birther" issue into perspective:

1) "Birtherism" not widespread and often not a hard belief

Polls on this have produced a consistent finding over the last year or so: Roughly one American in four reports the mistaken belief that the President was born outside the United States. But as former ABC News polling director Gary Langer argues, “[m]any people are expressing their opinion rather than an assertion of factual reality.” For some, he writes, that opinion amounts to an “‘expressed belief’ –- a statement intended to send a message, not claim a known fact.”

The polling results support his argument: An ABC News/Washington Post poll a year ago found that 20 percent believed Obama was born outside the United States, but half of that group said their answer was “suspicion only” (10 percent) rather than a belief based on "solid evidence” (9 percent).

Similarly, on the USA Today/Gallup poll conducted this past week, only 9 percent said that Obama was “definitely” born in another country, while 15 percent said the president was “probably” born elsewhere.

These expressed beliefs are likely not all reflex and partisan cheerleading, as political scientist John Sides argues, but we should take care not to interpret the polling results too literally. The percentages who say they believe Obama was born elsewhere are probably a complex mix of people with actual beliefs and those with intense antipathy to Obama generally.

2) Recent Uptick?

The news coverage of the last 24 hours often cites the recent CBS News/New York Times poll that shows the belief that Obama was not born in the United States rising from 20 to 25 percent since last April.

But compare the CBS/New York Times result to the other polls that asked similar questions over the 18 months. While these polls differ in their methodologies, they have reported a relatively consistent number of Americans or registered voters who hold the mistaken belief that Obama was born abroad (ranging from 20 to 27 percent). And the percentage that the CBS/Times poll reported last week, 25 percent, is still slightly lower than CNN reported last July (27 percent) and the same as PPP reported among registered voters two summers ago (25 percent).

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The ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted a year ago reported a lower percentage -- a full 1/5th of voters -- who believe Obama was foreign born, but the survey posed a much different question. It first asked respondents where Obama was born, without prompting for a specific answer, and then offered the more specific prompt (was Obama "born in the United States, or in another country?") only to those who were initially uncertain.

3) "Taking Hold Among Independents?" No

"[T]ake a look at recent polls,” Republican strategist Karl Rove told Politico this week. "The problem was the view was taking hold among independents. He got worried it was about to spin out of control.”

Where is the evidence? Not in the CBS/New York Times poll, the one most frequently cited this week as showing an "uptick" in birtherism. As the table below shows, the percentage of independents who say Obama was born outside the U.S. shifted just a single percentage point over the past year, a change far too small to attain statistical significance. Similarly, the two PPP polls conducted a year apart show virtually no change among independents.

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What the CBS/Times poll does show is twelve point increase among Republicans over the past year (from 32 to 45 percent).

4) Unites Obama Supporters/Divides Detractors

One problem with focusing too closely on self-identified independents is that most "lean" to one of the two main parties and tend to vote reliably for that party. So the small share of independents with doubts about his citizenship may by mostly Republican leaners.

If we set partisanship aside, however, and focus on support or opposition to President Obama, we see a clearer pattern.

The most recent USA Today/Gallup poll included questions about both Obama's birth and about vote intentions for next year. Overall, 31 percent of registered voters say they will definitely vote for Obama, 23 percent say they might consider voting for Obama and 46 percent say they will definitely not for the President.

Tabulating beliefs about Obama's birth by vote intention yields the striking contrast illustrated in the chart below: Obama supporters -- even those who say they "might consider" supporting Obama -- overwhelmingly reject the notion that he was born outside the United States, and only a tiny sliver (between 6 and 7 percent) say Obama was definitely or probably born in another country.

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Yet among those who say they plan to vote against Obama, the birther issue is divisive. Nearly half (43 percent) of those planning to vote against Obama say he was definitely or probably born in another country, and only a third (32 percent) are willing to tell Gallup they believe Obama was born in the United States.

[Thanks to Gallup Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport for sharing these tabulations with The Huffington Post].

5) These Attitudes Are Unlikely to Change

Will the release of Obama's long form birth certificate this week change any of these attitudes? "The odds aren't good," says Brendan Nyhan, pointing to a series of experiments that he conducted with fellow political scientist Jason Reifler. Their experiments, Nyhan writes, "found that corrective information in news articles often fails to reduce misperceptions among the ideological or partisan group that is most vulnerable to the false belief" and, in some cases, made those misperceptions worse.

Nyhan's expectation is consistent with an overnight national poll conducted on Wednesday by the firm SurveyUSA. Their poll (which combined automated calls to landlines and live interviewer calls to cell phones) finds 19 percent of adults, and 33 percent of Republicans, still believe Obama was definitely or probably born outside the United States. About half as many -- 10 percent of adults and 18 percent of Republicans -- tell SurveyUSA that they are "sure the birth certificate newly released by the White House is a forgery."

With all of these findings in mind, let's return to the speculation about the political wisdom of the release of Obama's birth certificate.

The survey data support the argument White House spokesman Pfieffer made: that a continuing debate on this issue among Republican candidates would work to Obama's advantage. This is especially true since potential swing voters in the Gallup poll -- the 23 percent still considering support for Obama -- overwhelmingly reject the birther myth. This data also helps to explain why Karl Rove and other Republican operatives have been urging GOP politicians to avoid discussing the birther issue.

What polling snapshots cannot predict is whether this latest development will end the birther debate among the Republican candidates or keep it in the news. But if Nyhan and his colleagues are right, the false beliefs among a large portion of the Republican rank-and-file may persist, and the public discussion that Pfieffer says has been "really bad for the Republican Party" and "good for the President politically" may well continue.

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WASHINGTON -- The release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate Wednesday took many observers by surprise. Many pundits questioned the timing and the political wisdom of the announce...
WASHINGTON -- The release of President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate Wednesday took many observers by surprise. Many pundits questioned the timing and the political wisdom of the announce...
 
 
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12:43 AM on 05/10/2011
Unless the economy picks up from all his efforts it doesn't matter where he was born.
08:24 AM on 05/07/2011
I think you miss the point. The point is that republicans who hold office or are potentially running for office, have not run away from this nonsense just as fast and far as they can. Instead, many of them have embraced it & promoted it & certainly not condemned it for the BS that it is.
It is one thing to have craziness exist - quite another to have it mainstreamed.
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
12:12 PM on 05/06/2011
Another indicator that Obama killing Osama was not exactly the barn burner that the mediots want you to believe it was, the DJIA, which had been increasing dramatically just prior to this, suddenly dropped from 12,900 to 12,600, a 2.4% drop in only a few days. If the stock market reflects anything Obama does, then this is proof that not even businesses and investors are impressed, and most likely do not agree with the stammering talking heads:

http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/npage/2_3051.html?symbol=DJIA
08:20 AM on 05/04/2011
No offense but Americans are so stupid, don't you guys know that America was founded by immigrants.
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
02:45 PM on 05/05/2011
No offense, but these IMMIGRANTS who founded this nation were WHITE men who excluded Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics, Blacks, and women when they used the term "men".
03:32 AM on 05/03/2011
If the strategy was to keep the issue alive by not releasing the long form years ago so as to marginalize his critics, it was a huge mistake. The latest polls in fact showed that a sizable majority had doubts. Lets assume that a majority of that majority no longer has any doubts. To the extent that that group had doubts in the first place, it was because he was refusing to release the long form for the last three years, and now they are thinking ot themselves, "I get it, Obama was just screwing with my head". Do you think that is going to make them more or less supportive of the President than they otherwise would be?
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Wong23
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12:49 PM on 05/03/2011
"the latest polls in fact showed a sizable majority had doubts."''

Bull. Can you cite a single one?
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
03:12 PM on 05/03/2011
Only 38% of Americans said they thought the president was "definitely" born in the United States; 18% said he "probably" was. Nearly one in four, 24%, said he was probably or definitely born in another country. Nineteen percent said they didn't know enough to say.
Those who think the president was born outside the United States tend to be among his fiercest critics. Most are Republicans, conservatives and supporters of the Tea Party movement. Three of four disapprove of the job he is doing as president."

THAT'S USA TODAY.

You afterbirthers are about ONE THIRD of the ENTIRE population, not just Democrats, not just liberals, and not just huffingpuffingsters.
09:59 PM on 05/01/2011
Looking at all the stubs across the top of the page.....all the highlighted articles are trying to make fun of only the repubs and tea partiers...maybe Arianna and her cohorts should start with equal time and print the Dems gaffes as well!!! I was a Dem...had been until what they did to Hillary, the rulues committee and the parties heavies playing dirty.......I have become an Independent and find the news media encroaching on yellow journalism and tryng to play politics instead of just reporting the news....what a joke most are becoming.
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
07:29 PM on 05/02/2011
Exactly. Note that they didn't refer to the USA Today poll which reports that only ONE THIRD of ALL Americans (including Democrats) believed Obama was legally qualified to be president BEFORE his latest fraudulent release. This is WAY different from a poll which indicates that less than 45% of REPUBLICANS believe this. My own personal observation is that NINETY PERCENT no longer believe it, so even the USA Today poll is biased, at least from my perspective.

And there's nothing from the afterbirthers on this forum to indicate that they even have brains in their haids. They uniformly walked right off the cliff without even bothering to do the simplest fact check of this so-called birth certificate.

Either Obama LIED when he said it did NOT exist, or he LIED when he now says it DOES exist. It can't be both ways, and his followers can't have it both ways.
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sfurr
11:58 AM on 05/04/2011
Given that no sane person would want to be around a raving lunatic such as yourself, I am not surprised that your own anecdotal polling would yield a 90% figure. I don't doubt it for one second.

It clearly would show a response bias to your polling efforts though;-)

Now the USA Today polling might show a slight response bias to simpletons who are best able to digest information in the form of pie charts, but that would suggest that birthers would be over-represented, not under-represented.
08:29 AM on 05/07/2011
What did they 'do' to Hilary? She ran a bad campaign - it's that simple. Had she run a good campaign, she probably would have won.
09:51 PM on 05/01/2011
Since the aol was bought out by Arianna Huffington, the news has been leaning ever so large LEFT.....Stinks !!!!
05:17 PM on 05/03/2011
actually...cough cough....Huffington Post has been BOUGHT by AOL, not the other way round, just wanted to make sure you stick to the facts and stuff.

See links below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/07/business/media/07aol.html
http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/07/technology/aol_huffington_post.cnnw/index.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/07/AR2011020700247.html
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08:23 PM on 04/30/2011
i think the question of his birth certificate was a valid question we knew president bush's grades in high school. liberals brought to question his military service so why the outrage?
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VonMarco
Common Sense is not so Common
05:26 PM on 04/30/2011
Regardless of the facts, common sense, intellect, high info individual positions you may have is wasted on commenting on birthers, teapartiers and republican supporters. One can not argue with ignor...., bigotry and an alternate universe to reality. I have pledged not to do so, hoping that by ignoring them.....maybe they will go away...wishful thinking, I know.
02:48 PM on 04/30/2011
So can we stop talking about it now?
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
01:56 PM on 04/30/2011
John Bingham, architect of the 14th amendment, defined a natural born citizen, at the same time?

he made clear that former slaves deserved to be citizens so that their descendants like any other citizens’ descendants could also be natural born citizens. Bingham added the 14th amendment to bring former slaves into the fold of America, but he emphasized that the 14th did not change the definition of the natural born citizen.In 1866 the Civil Rights Act reemphasized this, and it was reenacted verbatim in 1872, it is still on the books. It says if a child is born with any other allegiance or citizenship it is not a US citizen.In 1874, Minor v. Happersett held that no 14th amendment citizen is ever a natural born citizen (because the 14th was added 6 years prior).”All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))
09:56 AM on 04/30/2011
is it important? or does it matter?
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Zork4
You can have your own opinion, not your own facts.
08:52 PM on 04/29/2011
"[T]ake a look at recent polls,” Republican strategist Karl Rove told Politico this week. "The problem was the view was taking hold among independents. He got worried it was about to spin out of control.”

Still at it. Karl Rove, liar and manipulator. As the story shows, Independents views had not shifted in a year.
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Vote2bfree
08:47 PM on 04/29/2011
Being a Birther is the same as playing the Fiddler in the Fiddle while Rome Burns scenerio.
08:04 PM on 04/29/2011
A message to the Birthers. A dog whistle is not a dog whistle if non dogs can hear it.
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Vote2bfree
08:48 PM on 04/29/2011
What, what Lassie? You pushed Timmy down the well?