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Osama Bin Laden Was Unarmed During Navy SEAL Raid, Says White House

By MATT APUZZO and ADAM GOLDMAN   05/ 3/11 09:31 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON -- Osama bin Laden was unarmed when Navy SEALs burst into his room and shot him to death, the White House said Tuesday, a change in the official account that raised questions about whether the U.S. ever planned to capture the terrorist leader alive.

The Obama administration was still debating whether to release gruesome images of bin Laden's corpse, balancing efforts to demonstrate to the world that he was dead against the risk that the images could provoke further anti-U.S. sentiment. But CIA Director Leon Panetta said a photograph would be released.

"I don't think there was any question that ultimately a photograph would be presented to the public," Panetta said in an interview with "NBC Nightly News." Asked again later by The Associated Press, he said, "I think it will."

Asked about the final confrontation with bin Laden, Panetta said: "I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything." The CIA chief told PBS NewsHour, "It was a firefight going up that compound. ... I think it - this was all split-second action on the part of the SEALs."

Panetta said that bin Laden made "some threatening moves that were made that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired."

The SEALs were back in the U.S. at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington for debriefing on the raid, lawmakers said after meeting with Panetta.

The question of how to present bin Laden's death to the world is a difficult balancing act for the White House. President Barack Obama told Americans that justice had been done, but the White House also declared that bin Laden's body was treated respectfully and sent to rest in a somber ceremony at sea.

Panetta underscored on Tuesday that Obama had given permission to kill the terror leader: "The authority here was to kill bin Laden," he said. "And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him."

For the long-term legacy of the most successful counterterrorism operation in U.S. history, the fact that bin Laden was unarmed is unlikely to matter much to the Americans he declared war against. President George W. Bush famously said he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive," and the CIA's top counterterrorism official once promised to bring bin Laden's head back on a stake.

Yet just 24 hours before the White House acknowledged that bin Laden had been unarmed, Obama's chief counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, said: "If we had the opportunity to take bin Laden alive, if he didn't present any threat, the individuals involved were able and prepared to do that."

Will it matter around the world? Some may try to make much of it in Pakistan and elsewhere.

"This country has gone through a lot of trauma in terms of violence, and whether or not he was armed is not going to make a difference to people who were happy to see the back of him," said Mosharraf Zaidi, a political analyst and columnist in Pakistan. "The majority have a mistrust of America and this will reinforce their mistrust of America."

Others may not even believe it.

"I think he was definitely armed and he was firing on U.S. commandos," said Hamid Mir, an anchor for Geo Television. "Osama told me many times that he will not surrender; he claimed that he will fight and I think he was fighting."

In Washington, the issue will become part of the political debate over Obama's terror policies. His national security team had offered differing accounts of what would happen if the U.S. ever had a chance to kill or capture bin Laden. And Republicans have criticized the president for shutting down the CIA's controversial network of overseas prisons and trying to close Guantanamo Bay, moves they say have left the U.S. with few options for interrogating terrorists.

On Monday, the White House said bin Laden was involved in a firefight, which is why the SEALs killed rather than captured him. On Tuesday, however, White House press secretary Jay Carney said bin Laden did not fire on the SEALs. He said bin Laden resisted but offered no specifics. Bin Laden's wife rushed the SEALs when they stormed the room, Carney said, and was shot in the calf

"Bin Laden was then shot and killed," Carney said. "He was not armed."

That was one of many official details that have changed in the two days since bin Laden was killed. A White House transcript misidentified which of bin Laden's sons was killed – it was Khalid, not Hamza. Officials incorrectly said bin Laden's wife died in gunfire while serving as his human shield. That was actually bin Laden's aide's wife, and she was just caught in cross fire, the White House said Tuesday.

Carney attributed those discrepancies to the fog of war, saying the information was coming in bit by bit and was still being reviewed.

"We provided a great deal of information with great haste in order to inform you, and through you the American public, about the operation and how it transpired and the events that took place there in Pakistan," Carney told reporters Tuesday. "And obviously some of the information came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated on."

Five people were killed in the raid, officials said: Bin Laden; his son; his most trusted courier, Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, and al-Kuwaiti's wife and brother.

After killing the world's most wanted terrorist, the SEAL team in just minutes quickly swept bin Laden's compound for useful intelligence, making off with a cache of computer equipment and documents. The CIA was hurriedly setting up a task force to review the material from the highest level of al-Qaida's leadership.

The documents provide a rare opportunity for U.S. intelligence. When a mid-level terrorist is captured, his bosses know exactly what information might be compromised and can change plans. When the boss is taken, everything might be compromised but nobody knows for sure.

Al-Kuwaiti inadvertently led intelligence officials to bin Laden when he used a telephone last year to talk with someone the U.S. had wiretapped. The CIA then tracked al-Kuwaiti back to the walled compound in a town near Islamabad.

The home was bigger than those nearby, and there were no phone lines or Internet cables running to it. But other than that, it didn't stand out in the neighborhood, where residents tend to be very religious and jealous of their privacy. The walls are mold-stained, there are trees in the garden and the windows are hidden. Once, when a woman involved in a polio vaccine drive turned up at the driveway, the men at the gate took the vaccine, apparently to administer to the 23 children at the compound, and told her to go away.

The Pakistani government has denied suggestions that its security forces knew anything about bin Laden's hideout or failed to spot suspicious signs. But in the closed-door briefing for lawmakers Tuesday, Panetta said, "Pakistan was involved or incompetent," a U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the private briefing.

Pakistan formally criticized the raid Tuesday, calling it an "unauthorized unilateral action." While the statement suggested further strain in U.S. relations with an important but at times unreliable counterterrorism ally, Pakistan is unlikely to have much world support for criticizing the successful mission.

Though Monday's pre-dawn raid on that compound was a major counterterrorism victory, there had been no guarantee of success. Government analysts suspected bin Laden was living there but could never prove it. Satellite surveillance provided the military with images to plan its strike but never captured a picture of bin Laden on the property.

With no assurance that bin Laden would be there, sending troops into Pakistan was a risky call. The SEALs could storm a compound and find no terrorists at all, leaving Pakistan furious about a U.S. military incursion. Or the Pakistani military, not realizing what was going on, could send its own air force to attack the SEAL team.

"What if you go down and you're in a firefight and the Pakistanis show up and start firing?" Panetta said in an interview with Time. "How do you fight your way out?"

With officials at the CIA and the White House watching on television monitors, tensions increased when one of the two Black Hawk helicopters lowered into the compound and, beneath a moonless sky, fell heavily to the ground. Officials believe that was due to higher-than-expected air temperature that interfered with the chopper's ability to hover – an aeronautical condition known as "hot and high."

Photos released by the White House show the president and national security team watching tensely as events unfolded. The CIA director said neither he nor Obama saw bin Laden shot.

The SEALs all got out of the downed helicopter and proceeded into the compound. As they swept through the property, they handcuffed those they encountered with plastic zip ties and pressed on in pursuit of their target, code-named Geronimo. Many SEAL team members carry helmet-mounted cameras, but the video beamed back to Washington did not show the fateful showdown with bin Laden, officials said.

That word came from the SEALs on the ground: "Geronimo EKIA" – enemy killed in action.

The CIA's makeshift command center erupted in applause as the SEALs helicoptered to safety.

Now, the agency's attention turns to finding the intelligence in the computer files, flash drives, DVDs and documents hauled out of the compound. All of that is in Washington and the analysis has begun. The SEALs also confiscated phone numbers from bin Laden's body, and those might provide new leads for investigators. If the intelligence provides the kind of insight about al-Qaida operations that officials hope, the U.S. could deliver follow-up strikes against al-Qaida's remaining leaders.

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Associated Press writers Kimberly Dozier, Donna Cassata, Alan Fram, , Darlene Superville, Ben Feller, Erica Werner, Pauline Jelinek, Robert Burns and Matthew Lee in Washington, Chris Brummitt in Islamabad and Nahal Toosi and Zarar Khan in Abbottabad contributed to this report.

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Gerald OHare
Retired guy living in the great state of N.J.
10:38 PM on 05/16/2011
It really doesn't matter if he were armed or not. Let's stop beating around the bush and admit that it was a shoot to kill operation. We did the same thing to a Japanese General during WWII when we shot his plane out of the sky. When the Allies bombed Hitler's bunker it was a kill operation. Don't you think those drone strikes are kill operations? This is not a police action. It is war, total war and we must win.
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hairydodger
03:22 AM on 05/11/2011
Glad he was unarmed. That way he couldn't harm one of our guys. Even if he was armed he was still going to be dead and as far as I can tell he's still dead.
06:05 AM on 05/08/2011
Good riddance, he was a mass murderer. I just hope the bounty on his head is divided between the troops.
10:37 AM on 05/07/2011
To the lib named tight who wrote this:

"It's another great day in the history of our great country. You kill 3000+ of our citizens and in turn we will start however many wars and spend god knows how much money to hunt you down and kill you...........10 years later. God I hate this country"

I invite you to go get a passport if you do not already have one, and then find the first one way plane flight out of my country. Unlike the former soviet union, cuba, venesuela, and other cess pools of liberalism taken to the final result, nobody is going to hold you at gunpoint and force you to live in a place that you hate so much.
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09:52 PM on 05/06/2011
Unarmed just like our Trade Tower victims were. It was too kind of a death fot him compared to the torture of 500 or so estimated who had to jump out of windows that. No pity party for Obama here.
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vietveter
To the FAR LEFT
09:41 PM on 05/06/2011
Sure, capture that guy and stand by to have every American overseas, person of opportunity get kidnapped and held for exchange or executed until Osama Bin Hiding gets released.

Real dumbazz plan.

the professionals did a professional job,

"I wud presheate it ifn youd easeup offa theirrrrr backsaboutit"
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zetacplus
Conservatism has failed America
05:23 PM on 05/06/2011
The Pakistani government must be held accountable for allowing bin Laden safe haven in their country. Our "friendly" relationship with Pakistan should be terminated and we should treat them like other countries who sponsor terrorism.
03:17 PM on 05/06/2011
Be careful with judging this situation from the armchair.

Had you been a SEAL member, you would have been briefed and trained on the various ways that a person like bin Laden could present a threat to you or your fellow SEAL members. And a person like bin Laden would be expected to present all manner of crafty and subtle threat.

An operation such as that conducted by the SEALs is extremely demanding, because it requires a life-or-death decision be made with nearly every footfall of every soldier, as they constantly scan and sort information in their visual field, all the while taking and giving on-the-ground orders that may or may not change the original plan of attack. Risking their lives and their legacy (as someone who may be killed by Osama himself), they should be given every benefit of the doubt.

Moreover, there is a vast array of possibilities by which he could have presented a threat yet actually been unarmed. What if one arm was behind his back? What if he was reaching under or behind a piece of furniture? What if he was reaching inside his jacket? What if he was signaling to armed support nearby? What if he rushed the SEAL team, or tried to run into another room? Being unarmed does not equal surrender.

He repeated proclaimed that would never surrender and would go down fighting. How comfortable should one be speculating about the significance of his being unarmed?
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a space alien
03:11 PM on 05/06/2011
"Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden’s death in an Internet statement, warns of retaliation" | Washington Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/al-qaida-has-confirmed-osama-bin-ladens-death-in-an-internet-statement/2011/05/06/AFVEBL7F_story.html

" “The blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is too precious to us and to all Muslims to go in vain,” the statement said. “We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries.”

“Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness,” it said, “their blood will be mingled with their tears.” "

Again I'll quote Sam Harris:

"If someone doesn't value logic what logical argument can you invoke to prove they should value logic?"
11:58 AM on 05/06/2011
It is mindboggling how no one is talking about the thousands/million of lives this country takes including our own soldiers in "Shock and Awe" tactics. It is about santized war games that this country condones. Bombing people from drones, in the air not seeing the innocent lives taken by our military affairs. People have a love affair with bombs, bullets and "God" complexes. Maybe in heaven is the place for divine judgement but the rule of law down here on earth is what rules the universe...trial, evidence, conviction no matter how hard it is to do , no matter how much friction there is from thepublic. This opens up real dialogue, not speculation. The audacity of people playing God! All the statements condoning the killing of this man is barbaric. Amazing how people can continue believing killing Bin Ladin was justified when he was unarmed at that....
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jacobisrael
teapartying semiticbirther
02:42 PM on 05/06/2011
The UN estimates that two million, mostly women and children, died in Iraq BEFORE we attacked them (from the blockade). Who knows how many have died since then, and clearly NONE of them had anything to do with 9/11 (until POSSIBLY *he* finally killed Osama).

If the government admits that 5,000 American soldiers have been killed and 33,000 seriously wounded there, the number could easily be 50,000 and 330,000, or even higher.

The 50,000 who allegedly died in Korea and Vietnam could easily be 500,000 each.

The reducation in the worldwide Christian population during WWII of 256 million can be attributed mostly to the ability of our military to kill people and break things.

Of course most of us would rather be on the winning side than the losing side.

But: WE didn't kill Osama. British subject OBAMA DID.
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a space alien
03:13 PM on 05/06/2011
randischeurer wrote: "The audacity of people playing God!"

Apparently people like Bin Laden and organizations like Al Qaeda and the Taliban play God, too.

What do we do about this?
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a space alien
11:49 PM on 05/05/2011
I had posted: "Their core idea really is terror and the destructio­n of anyone or any entity they deem infidel according to their beliefs. They rely on pure anger and misgivings and disillusio­nment of the young people around the world they recruit into their club.

Ultimately they thrive on their religious principles­, which they truly believe, deeply. Why would they ever even consider playing by any rules of war set by anyone other than themselves­?"

thereisonlyoneparty wrote: "So because they act like monsters the US can do it too?

That is not justifiabl­e and makes the US look much worse. They are doing exactly what they claim to do. The US is equally as savage, but it is trying to disguise it with good intentions­."

I wasn't able to reply to him because there was no reply button anymore.

What do you all think of his reply? Apparently the U.S. - or any other country - is held to one standard but organizations like Al Qaeda hold themselves to another. How do we square this if it can be squared?
11:39 AM on 05/06/2011
comparing ourselves to the lowest common denominator makes us no different than them.
they don't hold themselves to any standards. they're mon/ster.s.
and by acting like them, we have brought ourselves down to their level.
you know who's happy that we have wasted trillions on these useless wars and thousands of americans lives, and our reputation is now dirt in the world? binladen. he succeeded because we went down to his level.
you want to play by their "standards"? then you are no better than them. none of us are.
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a space alien
03:04 PM on 05/06/2011
What would you propose as a remedy to this, then? Clearly people like bin Laden and organizations or militia groups like Al Qaeda or the Taliban have no interest in playing by the rules, much less sitting down at the table and having a logical discussion. What, I ask you, drives them? What's their nature? Their motives? The actual source of their existence? What doctrines do they follow? What values have they that work with or against reason and the reality of this world?

As Sam Harris put it:

"If someone doesn't value logic what logical argument can you invoke to prove they should value logic?"
10:43 PM on 05/05/2011
When the British SAS killed three IRA terrorists sitting at a bus stop in Gibraltar by shooting them in the back of the head the terrorists were probably unarmed too.
It is far easier to kill unarmed terrorists than ones that are armed, less chance of collateral damage too.
The difference between the USA and the SAS is that the USA makes a big public deal of its assassinations,and publicizes them, the British do not.
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fireart
I got mine the hard way.
09:45 PM on 05/05/2011
If we were uncivilized we would hacked and hacked in an insane rant while having an orgasm like alsquat.
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fireart
I got mine the hard way.
09:41 PM on 05/05/2011
If america was uncivilized we would cut his head off like the arab world.
08:08 PM on 05/05/2011
So, if he was unarmed, why did they kill him? Did he suddenly strike some kind of impressive KungFu pose?
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Havana Thinks
Live and Let Live!
10:58 PM on 05/05/2011
They had orders to assassinate him, no matter what! That is why the stories keep changing!
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a space alien
11:52 PM on 05/05/2011
Ultimately the the operatives' mission was to never take bin Laden alive. Given that he had promised to kill many more infidels (according to his beliefs) through his and allied organizations, I wonder what any other country would choose to do, given the further complications that could ensue if he were kept alive and put on trial for what may take months or years. Would France capture him alive? Would Great Britain? Would Italy?