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Austan Goolsbee Applauds Job Growth, Says 'We've Got A Long Way To Go'


First Posted: 05/06/11 02:16 PM ET Updated: 07/06/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- In an interview with The Huffington Post, White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee cheered a new, stronger-than-expected jobs report, while cautioning that the economy has "a long way to go" for workers with regard to both jobs and job quality.

The U.S. Department of Labor reported this morning that the economy added 244,000 jobs in April, although the unemployment rate ticked up to 9.0 percent from 8.8 percent in March, as more workers returned to the labor force.

Goolsbee, Chairman of President Barack Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, repeatedly emphasized multi-month trends, noting that this month's report is just the latest in a series of reports that have shown strong private-sector job growth.

"It's clearly a trend," Goolsbee said. "We've had in the last 3 months, an average gain of a quarter of a million private-sector jobs a month. That could not be more different than the three-quarters of a million jobs we were losing when the president took office."

While Goolsbee's optimism reflects improving job numbers in recent months, other economists view today's report as troubling, given how far into the recovery the economy is.

"I am very concerned," Heather Boushey, Senior Economist at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank with close ties to the Obama administration. "At this point in the economic recovery, we should be seeing reports that we are clearly out of the woods, that this is net good. And we are not."

The private sector secured 268,000 new jobs in April, but state and local governments confirmed another, longer-term trend of laying off public servants amid brutal budget battles. Government payrolls shed 24,000 jobs in April. Goolsbee argued that the government should not be focusing its efforts on creating public-sector jobs.

"State and local government employees have been negative for many months, and given the condition of the states' finances, that's going to continue," Goolsbee told HuffPost. "The magnitudes [of the government job losses] are not overwhelming the private sector [job gains], and we want to transition to a phase where the private sector is leading the job growth. Those tend to be the better, more sustainable jobs that last."

Goolsbee also attempted to ease concerns that deficit wrangling at the federal level will result in further heavy job losses as politicians slash government spending on programs that elevate hiring.

"Much of the discussion with the budget is about the next 10 years, not the next 10 months," Goolsbee said. "Look, if it was hundreds of billions of dollars in the next four months, that would be a different issue."

He emphasized that "we are trying to transition to a smaller role of government and a bigger role of the private sector," before noting, "The president has committed that we need to preserve the education and innovation programs that we need to grow the economy. Growth is the number one priority."

Though news on job growth appeared positive, some economists have expressed concern over other important metrics of job quality included in the report. The number of hours that employees are working did not rise significantly, and wage growth did not keep pace with inflation, a particularly worrying sign amid near-record gas prices.

"That you don't see it in wages, I don't think is surprising yet," Goolsbee said. "Because look, the unemployment rate remains high. We still have a lot of people out of work. We still have a long way to go. I think you would first expect it to go into hiring, I don't think you'd see it in the wages of people who already have a job. Employers are going to hire more people before they start paying more. That it's not going into hours, you don't want to make too much out of one month."

While the overall jobs situation improved, many segments of the economy still remain at near-depression levels. The unemployment rate for African Americans edged up in April to a staggering 16.1 percent. The average duration of unemployment for workers over the age of 55, meanwhile, is now more than a full year, the AARP noted on Friday. Unemployed workers under the age of 55 remain without jobs for an average of 39.5 weeks, but for those over 55, the average is 53.6 weeks.

Goolsbee acknowledged those problems, and indicated they will likely exist for some time, given the severity of the economic downturn.

"That's the hardest feature of this recession," Goolsbee said. "There are clearly differences in unemployment rates for different parts of the population and some groups are higher. But everyone's unemployment rate rose about proportionally. Everybody's unemployment rate basically doubled over the course of this recession. We've got to gear help toward sectors that are hardest hit. But we've also got to be mindful of the fact that the overall job market has been severely damaged by this recession. From December of 2007 we lost more jobs from this recession than from the last three recessions combined. It really was the worst recession we've seen since 1929. It takes a while to come back from that."

Goolsbee also pushed back against claims that the recession is being driven by structural mismatches between employer needs and employee skills. The problem, Goolsbee noted, is not with the American worker, but with the dynamics of the business cycle and a devastating financial crisis.

"I don't know if you'd call it a silver lining, but there is one at least not-overly-damaging aspect to all of this," Goolsbee said. "If you thought things were being primarily driven by structural problems, then you would expect to see the durations rising significantly over time. The long-term unemployed would be becoming a bigger and bigger share of the unemployment rate and the duration of unemployment would be getting longer. And durations are up a little bit, but they're not up as much as you would see if this were being driven by structural problems with the workforce."

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WASHINGTON -- In an interview with The Huffington Post, White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee cheered a new, stronger-than-expected jobs report, while cautioning that the economy has "a long wa...
WASHINGTON -- In an interview with The Huffington Post, White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee cheered a new, stronger-than-expected jobs report, while cautioning that the economy has "a long wa...
 
 
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stevendedalus3
02:18 PM on 06/07/2011
Obama has to be more assertive and abandon Clinton's triangulation. We need an FDR to shake out right wing nonsense. It's jobs, stupid.
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stevendedalus3
02:11 PM on 06/07/2011
Goolsbee's comments shouls bw qualified with "but not enough." The government MUST do more for job incentives. But the most pressing issue is creating living wage openings for the unemployed and underemployed. One solution beyond revamping infrastructure would be for the government to subsidize startup companies to innovate products to be made in the homeland. Large companies should be punished dearly for the outsourcing of labor. The likes of Apple and Motorola—the latter being the king of electronic innovations—should do a Kathy Gifford and compensate their sweatshops round the world and return home.
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Donald Fannin
01:17 PM on 05/11/2011
Austan Goolsbee looks like a nice young man. And I am certainly glad he has a job, because if he had to land one in this economy his general incompetence would land him in a bread line. I am sure that would be a disappointment to his parents especially after the fancy education they gave him. But he does know how to create jobs so I am sure if he were unemployed he wouldn't know how to land one. Back in January he went on all the Sunday morning talk shows and said that the Obama deals with the Republicans in December would create jobs. He particularly like the the tax cuts and the payroll holiday. The same kind of piss down economics the Republicans have been preaching for a generation. If tax cuts made jobs we would be awash in them. It unfortunately is time to fire Mr. Goolsbee even if he will enter the ranks of the long term employed. And to get rid of his boss too.
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dayzee10
Are you a master builder or a master butcher?
09:25 AM on 05/08/2011
TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP 2% AND CORPORATE AMERICA CREATES JOBS!!!!!!!! DONT YOU LIBERALS KNOW ANYTHING?????
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Trepasky
Sanity is neither free nor easy
01:22 PM on 05/08/2011
Funny sarcasm!
The past 12 years of tax cuts produced maybe 3million jobs.
The population of workers grew by 14million.
So tax cuts for the wealthy produced about a minus 11million jobs.
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Arts4u
It's better than a reality show.
01:02 PM on 05/11/2011
It's even worse than that.... over 5 million jobs were outsourced at the same time.
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05:39 AM on 05/08/2011
Goolsbee is in so far over his head he has lost touch with reality.
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02:01 AM on 05/08/2011
18 more months until the election x 250,000 new private sector jobs a month = 4.5 million new jobs. We can only hope and pray that we can manage anything near that over the next 18 months...
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Trepasky
Sanity is neither free nor easy
01:23 PM on 05/08/2011
We need the initial UI claims number to drop below 200,000 per week as well.
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02:16 PM on 05/08/2011
That is true for the purpose of the Unemployment percentage that we as a country so ridiculously tie our boats to. The challenge with that though is that people drop out of the employment market when economy numbers are sour, removing themselves from the UI percentage, and jump in when things are looking up. Hence the unemployment percentage going up this week even thought 250k private sector jobs were created. I'm assuming you aren't suggesting that 200k jobs were lost last month right? Just that people that are unemployed, regardless of length of time, are now applying for UI for the first time? Either way, I think Obama can run on 4 million plus new jobs created with another expected 5 or 6 million in a second term, if he can put the political spin on that campaign promise.
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antiFA and proud of it
11:58 PM on 05/07/2011
Seymour Melman (1917 - 2004) writing on America's military-industrial complex last article was titled "In the Grip of a Permanent War Economy (CounterPunch, March 15, 2003) in which he said:
"at the start of the twenty-first century, every major aspect of American life is being shaped by our Permanent War Economy."
-- a de-industrialized nation, the result of decades of shifting production abroad leaving unions and communities "decimated;"
-- government financing and promoting "every kind of war industry and foreign investing by US firms;" war priorities take precedence over essential homeland needs;
-- America's "Permanent War Economy....has endured since the end of World War II....Since then the US has been at war - somewhere - every year, in Korea, Nicaragua, Vietnam, the Balkans, Afghanistan - all this to the accompaniment of shorter military forays in Africa, Chile, Grenada, Panama," and increasingly at home against its own people;
-- "how to make war" takes precedence over everything leaving no "public space....on how to improve the quality of our lives;"
-- "Shortages of housing have caused a swelling of the homeless population in every major city (because) State and city governments across the country have become trained to bend to the needs of the military....;"
-- the result is a nation of growing millions of poor, disadvantaged, uneducated, and "disconnected from society's mainstream, restless and unhappy, frustrated, angry, and sad;"
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Scott Leland
11:36 AM on 05/07/2011
This is the time of the school year that American high school and college students are applying for summer jobs. Many American companies won't even accept their applications as there are 25 million unemployed adults with experience looking for work:

http://redwriteblue.blog.com/2011/04/19/american-teenage-blues/
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rtx47
08:03 AM on 05/07/2011
While unemployment is at 9%, the rate among college degree holders is 4%. The problem is 50% of kids drop-out off school and an additional 25% drop-out of college.

Of those that graduate from college after much 'fun in the sun' the vast majority are graduates in liberal arts. Less than 5% graduate in STEM subjects and 1% get a Master's degree in these sciences.

So we need to start at schools to revolutionize what clearly is failed system. Let's go back to a sytem that worked in America, and still works in the world that continues with that practice. These countries out-smart us in international benchmark standards.

Introduce quarterly and annual testing, starting in grade 1.
End social promotion starting in grade 1.
At the end of middle and high school, have state-wide standardized tests for promotion and graduation respectively.
Onus of being educated should be on the student and their parent.
Switch to a voucher system which will encourage schools offering different types of educational system from which students and parents can choose.
Schools should no longer be institutions for baby-sitting the kids.
Schools and colleges should no longer get recognition for their sporting activities and prowess.
College scholarship and grants should be targeted to STEM students and be closely tied to college annual test performance and graduation.
College graduation should be on state-wide tests, just as Masters and PhD degree is based on national tests (current practice).
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fgbouman
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06:07 AM on 05/07/2011
Goolsbee is cool. Goolsbee is wrong. He says that because we see the long-term unemployed numbers edging up slowly, our problems are not structural. They are not entirely structural, of course, structural problems don't cause crashes, they drain away vitality slowly and that is precisely what has been happening for years and what is happening now. The world is changing very rapidly due to technology but our distribution mechanisms are exactly the same ones that have been in place for millenia with just a few refinements to accelerate the movement of wealth up to the top of the heap without having to pillage.
American companies manufacturing abroad are beginning to bring the manufacturing back home. Why? Because they can use robots to substitute for cheap labor. At that point transportation costs become important. But very few jobs get created here, they just get eliminated in China. This problem will continue and will accelerate - is accelerating now. Goolsbee is thinking linearly in an exponential world.
We have to develop a new distribution mechanism. Both Capitalism and thuggish Communism have failed. Goolsbee is yesterday's man. Somewhere out there is tomorrow's.
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irochfpst
no right turn
01:04 AM on 05/07/2011
these people must all go to school in spin city or is that sin city? we all know what is going on in the trenches.
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RandyK100
Retired Info Tech
10:34 PM on 05/06/2011
Just think if the gop had worked at creating the JOBS they campaigned instead of obstructing at every corner.
Vote the gop and tp---(T)oilet (P)aper OUT!
09:28 PM on 05/06/2011
Austan Goolsbee needs to understand to create good jobs government intervention in the market place needs to be rolled back. The government, as is is regulating the economy out of existence. That is why we need Amity Shlaes to run for Senate because we need a real economist in Congress. http://catchthedogs.com/?p=941
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antiFA and proud of it
12:01 AM on 05/08/2011
BULL SHIT...30 years of deregulation and tax cuts has failed...learn some econ bagger...shales is an idiot
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didereaux
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is my Lord & Saviour!
09:20 PM on 05/06/2011
WOW! How did the Whitehouse economic team pull it off? With 244,000 new jobs(50,000 of them at McDonalds which held a hiring fair this past month)....and yet! The unemployment rate ROSE from 8.8% to 9%. Yessiree Bobby! Geithner and his robber band are on top of things alright. Increased unemployment and increased corporate profits and bonuses.
11:39 PM on 05/06/2011
not sure how you've racked up 216 fans, cos you clearly haven't read the article. The reason the unemployment rate and job growth sometimes move in different directions is because the unemployment rate is calculated based on the number of people looking for jobs. Clearly what has happened in this period is that more people started looking for jobs again than the number of jobs that were created. Try understanding what an article is about before posting randomly.
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didereaux
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is my Lord & Saviour!
07:10 AM on 05/07/2011
I take it you do not understand that seeking employment means you are unemployed, or at best under-employed. If you are being paid to flak for the Whitehouse then you are not earning your pay. If you are free-lancing I suggest you try another career.
04:29 AM on 05/07/2011
Spot on! Fan! Geithner, Goolsbee, and Obama are close to the financial sector in their thinking, and for them unemployment doesn't seem that urgent. As Reich points out, we'd need 350,000 new jobs a month for three straight years just to get back to employment levels before the recession, so 244,000 is way short of a significant improvement. And unemployment may be stubborn, due to the ending of the stimulus and slashed government programs. In Feb., a Goldman economist estimated the budget cuts demanded by the Repubs (more than half of which they won) would cost about 400,000 new jobs, so the actual number lost may have been about 250,000. And if Obama and Biden cave in and make big budget-cutting concessions instead of standing up to the Repubs and calling their bluff on not raising the budget ceiling, this will cost a lot more jobs than the April budget cuts.

Goolsbee gives away his DINO priorities when he says that we have to make government smaller over the next 10 years. This is neo-Reaganism in Dem clothing. The problem is not that the government is too big! It is that Goolsbee and Obama are not doing enough to stimulate aggregate demand, to increase jobs, to increase revenues from the rich, and thus to cut the deficit. As Pelosi and House progressives are pointing out, slashing government spending now might even cause a double dip recession and therefore *increase* the deficit, as in Britain right now.
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didereaux
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is my Lord & Saviour!
07:11 AM on 05/07/2011
Thank you, but in all truth you stated the case far more elegantly than I. ;)
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Tingly Leg
Reward responsibility, not irresponsibility!
08:10 PM on 05/06/2011
FUZZY MATH: How can US add jobs but the unemployment rate go up?