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Health Care Reform's Legal Battle: Next-To-Last Stage Begins Tuesday

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First Posted: 05/09/11 07:27 PM ET Updated: 07/09/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Tuesday morning marks the next, and perhaps next to last, stage in a legal drama that will determine the fate of President Barack Obama's health care reform law.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit will consider two separate cases, each pertaining to the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act. The losing parties will appeal whatever determinations are made to the Supreme Court. But the fine print of Tuesday's three-panel decision could have major ramifications on the ultimate ruling, including, perhaps, laying down the legal and political framework for allowing the law to be dismissed or kept in place.

Underscoring the importance of the case, the Obama administration is dispatching Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal to defend the law's individual mandate against accusations that it discriminates against religion and infringes upon state or individual rights.

Officials at the White House and in the Justice Department are, in private, cautiously optimistic about the dual cases, the first of which -- Liberty University v. Timothy Geithner -- will be argued at 9:30 a.m., the latter of which -- Commonwealth of Virginia v. Sebelius -- will begin immediately after.

Since the crafting of the law, defenders have insisted that the individual mandate for insurance coverage falls within Congress’ power under the Commerce Clause. But a real victory may not be one that is fought over strict legal merits.

Proponents of health care reform hope that when the Fourth Circuit issues its ruling (likely in a matter of months), it ends up dismissing the latter case on grounds that the appellate lacks standing. Such a determination, based on the reasoning that a state does not have a judiciable claim of injury, could be a blow to the other attorneys general filing suit against the law (though, to be fair, not all lawsuits brought by attorneys general are based on the same claim).

“If they can knock the state out as plaintiffs, the cases will go on, they just won’t have as much sex appeal with all these AGs suing,” said Timothy Jost, a health care legal expert and law professor at Washington and Lee. “It will make a big difference whether the case is ultimately decided if the states are the primary challenger to the law… it seems to me that if the lower courts decide that the states have no business being in federal court challenging this law, it takes away from the status of the challenges.”

The likelihood of this happening is, experts say, fairly strong. The state of Virginia must prove the Affordable Care Act negatively affects its own health care law and that, tangentially, the individual mandate is injurious to its citizens. That line of argument may seem logical but it remains, nevertheless, tricky legal reasoning.

“That sort of injury is an abstract one,” said Kevin Walsh, a professor of law at the University of Richmond School of Law, who clerked for Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and also in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. “It is not concrete and it rubs up against past Supreme Court cases.”

The federal government also has what many view as an advantageous setup heading into tomorrow’s oral arguments. Neither side will have control over which three judges ultimately get picked from the pool of 14 (it has to be done by random lottery and will be announced on Tuesday). But the fact that the Liberty case will go before Virginia is promising. Katyal will respond first to a much weaker argument, one that the government has already won: that the Affordable Care Act violates the right to free exercise of religion and association. He will also make the first round of argument in the second, more critical case.

“What the federal government wants to do is win the Virginia case on jurisdiction and the Liberty University case on the merits,” said Walsh. “The way it is set up enables them to do that."

Finally, time is on the side of the government. While opposition to the health care reform law remains relatively strong, it has been waning. An administration official pointed out that Rasmussen Reports (hardly a bullhorn of pro-Obama public opinion data) recently registered the lowest percentage of Americans who wanted to repeal the law. Republicans in Congress, meanwhile, have formally acknowledged that the repeal movement is dead. And while Justices should, theoretically, be immune to surrounding politics, the fact remains that the further along the implementation of the health care law goes, the harder it gets to unravel.

“It really is to the benefit of the federal government to put off a final decision until it gets implemented and becomes a lot harder to untangle,” said Jost.

In the end, the Fourth Circuit is just one of several appellate courts that will hear constitutional challenges to the health care law (the 6th and the 11th will follow). And while a ruling on standing may be the most critical outcome in the final decision, it’s not the only ruling of note. Also up for debate is whether the individual mandate can be severed from the entire bill, a legal debate that has split two federal judges so far.

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WASHINGTON -- Tuesday morning marks the next, and perhaps next to last, stage in a legal drama that will determine the fate of President Barack Obama's health care reform law. The United States Co...
WASHINGTON -- Tuesday morning marks the next, and perhaps next to last, stage in a legal drama that will determine the fate of President Barack Obama's health care reform law. The United States Co...
 
 
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06:49 PM on 05/20/2011
From this point forward lets stop using the term minority when describing someone. If you really want to be truthful the so called minority is fast becoming the majority and the once majority can now be described as the minority in this country.
04:04 PM on 05/19/2011
The US is the only idustrial democratic nation in the world that does not guarantee all its citizens acess to Health care. We are the only country that still has a for profit health care plan. In other democracies, citizens demand for acess to health care has produced government policies to provide a universal heath insurance or a government- subsidized health service. A large majority of Americans clearly support government guarantees of access to health care for all. Most Americans want Obama's health care plan passed and have been trying to get it since the Clinton administration.
01:16 AM on 05/17/2011
i've been drinking bird nest soup every night (i only get the homemade kind
back at home). the only reason why i drink it is because it's supposed to be
good for complexion.

i’ve been taking the store-bought kind online (e.g.
http://www.geocities.jp/hongkong_bird_nest/index_e.htm of famous branded
only of course) which is directly mailed from Hong Kong. this would be at a
more affordable price.
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firefox52
08:47 PM on 05/10/2011
I've got news for all of you.....Obama will be out come 2012. He is a fake and he does not have the American peoples best interest at heart. but you people are too narrow minded to see the farce that he has played on YOU as americans. I can not for the life of me understand how so many people are so blinded. All you people do is make excuses for him, while he and the extreme left rape and rob you blind of your consitutional rights. God Help America
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clearasmud
Obama Is Nothing More Than A Moderate Republican
12:39 AM on 05/16/2011
You have been watching way too much Fox Spews. It is a shame that you do not recognize that it is you and your conservative bretheren that have fallen for the corporatist lines and lies. The list could go on forever about the conservative corporatists and their theft of America but you are too blinded by propaganda to see it.
12:18 PM on 05/31/2011
By my scorecard most of the raping and robbing has been from the far (and not so far) right, and has been for generations!
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Jeany
Woman w/ Pitchfork
07:13 PM on 05/10/2011
I think we got a good draw on the judges, no RWNJs, no Bushies, no Federalist Society icks.
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
03:26 PM on 05/10/2011
Tuesday morning's come and gone. So what happened?
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CharlieVer
Rush is a rock band...
04:10 PM on 05/10/2011
What major trial takes one day?
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Shifu
Train and be ready
02:37 PM on 05/10/2011
We need an individual mandate
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CharlieVer
Rush is a rock band...
04:10 PM on 05/10/2011
Agreed.
12:19 PM on 05/31/2011
No mandate, complete coverage for everybody!
01:51 PM on 05/10/2011
worthless website. I could get better info from a box of cereal.
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carbec
Fondness for books has addled her brain
01:47 PM on 05/10/2011
All the Regressives who have fought Affordable Health Care (I prefer Obamacare) are about to lose the battle. Their problem all along is they could not stand to have Obama do something that will be extremely popular with the American people. The Regressives do not care about the many people who have gone bankrupt to pay for a family member's illness, those who have been capped, and those who have been kicked off. The health insurance companies are predators, and while Obamacare is not perfect, it is certainly a step in the right direction.
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CharlieVer
Rush is a rock band...
04:11 PM on 05/10/2011
And it WILL be extremely popular... you are right!
07:37 PM on 05/10/2011
Extremely popular?

In the year since HCR passed support for Obamacare has never reached 50%. Americans have found it more popular to oppose Obamacare than support it..

Try again.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
12:38 AM on 05/11/2011
Most Americans dont yet understand it, and millions are being spent to keep that confusion going. In the long run, as people begin to experience the benefits, it will become as popular as social security and medicare. It just take time to get the facts out through all the propaganda. Give it time.
12:21 PM on 05/31/2011
Funny thing, most Americans opposed Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare... Think that's the case still?
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WestCoastWoman
YES to human rights & humane treatment of animals
01:00 PM on 05/10/2011
Jesus would of wanted health care for everyone - these so called Christians in the GOP don't believe in this. No, they believe in "Death Panals". These people have no sense of morals, values or love towards humanity!
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firefox52
08:53 PM on 05/10/2011
You think you would know what Jesus wanted??? What do you think is in this Obama care, when you talk about death panels???? Someone else is going to decide wheather you are worth saving or with hold life saving treatment from you or your loved one! Thats whats only ONE of things that is in Obama Care!
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Genita Love
snarky and cranky
10:31 PM on 05/11/2011
http://youtu.be/AHkirYZd1Aw

Listen, this is what you happen to be.....
12:25 PM on 05/31/2011
I can tell you this as fact... Jesus promoted social justice. Jesus healed the sick... for free! (GASP!) The right wraps themselves in the bible when it comes to morality, but flatly rejects the deeds. How convenient.
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James Bridges
Blue Texan
12:39 PM on 05/10/2011
A reality check. We all pay for healthcare, regardless of the plan. the question is how much and why is it so costly? Right now we pay 20% or more premiums to insurance companies that do nothing more than shuffle papers. We pay more to cover the cost of those who go to emergency rooms because they have no health maintenance to prevent emergency events. Medicare costs less because it is government funded and administered by private firms that do the paperwork on contracts with the government. These contracts control the payments for that paperwork. Still, there is a profit margin or those companies would not bid on the contracts when they come up for rebidding. We all need to think clearly when we talk about health care. There is entirely too much BS and hyperbole.
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mixnmatch
Live like there is no tomorrow
11:55 AM on 05/10/2011
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/gas-price.htm

Some people here need to read this...
11:21 AM on 05/10/2011
It is sad that a Minority President would continue to force his will on "We The People." Without the people he has no power at all. We will rejoice when he is replaced in 2010 because running with his will excludes Democracy. Contact Congress at least weekly and give your Congressman & Senators your vote and you will find power is the people's vote.
http://www.stoykovich.com/sullivanobamacare2.htm
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11:29 AM on 05/10/2011
President Obama has growing support of the voters. It is the Republicans who are not listening to the voters. The American people want jobs and economic growth. They did call for cuts to medicare and social security, attacks on workers, or the republican social agenda.
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
11:33 AM on 05/10/2011
Force the country to insure those who have gone without and bend the cost curve down over time? That forcing? I'm all for it!
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Tygartman
Hoping for Change in 2012
11:15 AM on 05/10/2011
They have stacked the deck on this one.

"BREAKING: Appeals panel hearing ObamaCare suit comprised of 2 Obama nominees and a Clinton nominee"

A three judge panel was selected by "a computer program designed to achieve total random selection.".....RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.


http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/breaking-appeals-panel-hearing-obamacare-suit-comprised-2-obama-n
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
11:34 AM on 05/10/2011
If it was the other way around you wouldn't say a word!
12:45 PM on 05/10/2011
The court is randomly selected out of 14 judges. If you are decrying that as unfair than nothing is fair to you except when the deck is actively stacked in your favor.
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11:13 AM on 05/10/2011
If Federal mandates are unconstitutional why do we have SS and Medicare mandates ?

Why do I have a Federal Mandate to purchase Terrorism Insurance with my Worker's Comp?
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
12:21 PM on 05/10/2011
Great examples of what government mandates create....bloated inefficient entitlements that are unsustainable
12:50 PM on 05/10/2011
Huh, SS has been around for 76years and Medicare for 46 years. Medicare has the highest customer satisfaction rating of any health care provider in the country and SS is the single most successful Government program ever.

Neither of them are entitlement programs since everyone pays into them, including you. And when you turn 65 you will receive those benefits that you have paid for. Unless that is if you want to opt out of both programs...feel free to do so.
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carbec
Fondness for books has addled her brain
01:52 PM on 05/10/2011
You don't partake? Our so-called entitlements are running more smoothly than if they were privatized. Go live in Somalia where you can be free of taxes and entitlements.
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David Silvey
Writer/Bleeding Heart Liberal
12:51 PM on 05/10/2011
Say What?????? Where can I buy some of this new fangled "Terrorist Insurance"????