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Paul Ryan, AARP In Spat Over Medicare Plan

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First Posted: 05/10/11 08:41 PM ET Updated: 07/10/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- AARP is firing back at Republican budget maven Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for accusing it of putting business interests before the needs of older Americans.

Ryan sent an email to supporters of his Prosperity PAC Tuesday, slamming AARP over its new multi-million dollar ad campaign that accuses Washington of trying to pay its bills by shorting the Medicare benefits Americans have earned.

The spot doesn't mention Ryan or any party, but it is clearly a shot at Ryan's budget, which would shift Medicare from its current from, a government-run plan, to a voucher-like private system in which the government subsidizes people to buy their own insurance.

Ryan did not appreciate the ad, and in the email, an adviser to his PAC trashed it.

"Last week, [AARP], a left-leaning pressure group with significant business interests in the insurance industry, launched a national ad campaign that intentionally misleads seniors about the Medicare debate," the email read.

Republicans in the House have taken aim at AARP recently, charging, like Ryan, that AARP is prioritizing its business interests over its advocacy. A lengthy report using much of AARP's own data suggested the income AARP gets from endorsing certain insurance plans was clouding its vision.

But AARP found Ryan's latest accusation nonsensical, because Ryan's plan would actually be better for AARP's business interests than the current Medicare system AARP is defending. It would shift tens of millions of Americans into the private market, and in theory offer a massive boon to AARP's business side, giving the influential lobby group little financial incentive to oppose the idea.

“We make decisions on policy based on what we believe will be in the best interests of Americans over age 50. A recent attack on AARP from a political action committee erroneously suggests otherwise," said AARP spokesman Jim Dau in a statement.

"The truth is that the budget plan passed by the House probably would present more opportunities for AARP to strengthen its finances, since every older American would be forced into private Medicare plans, including those that AARP brands," Dau noted.

"We opposed the legislation nonetheless because we believe the goal should be to strengthen Medicare, not upend it," he said.

One Capitol Hill operative who works on medical issues -- and who requested anonymity because he works with both sides of the aisle -- laughed outright at Ryan's complaint, instead seeing the logic of AARP's position.

"Paul Ryan hasn't been tagged with the stupid label before, but that's stupid. It's too obviously partisan," the operative said, suggesting AARP would do far better financially with the larger private insurance market envisioned by Ryan.

Ryan's email also accuses AARP of partisan maneuvering.

"Unfortunately, Washington’s special interest groups, like the AARP, have decided to play politics," the message concluded. "We either need them to have a serious conversation or get out of the way."

But Dau countered that AARP has been consistent, for instance opposing commissions such as those envisioned by the White House that would set Medicare rates.

Ryan, the Budget Committee chairman, is not averse to listening to special interests in the insurance industry himself.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Ryan's Prosperity PAC got $83,250 in contributions from the insurance industry in the 2010 election cycle. The industry also donated $234,352 to Ryan's 2010 reelection campaign

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WASHINGTON -- AARP is firing back at Republican budget maven Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for accusing it of putting business interests before the needs of older Americans. Ryan sent an email to support...
WASHINGTON -- AARP is firing back at Republican budget maven Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for accusing it of putting business interests before the needs of older Americans. Ryan sent an email to support...
 
 
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
04:30 PM on 06/01/2011
The reason why the GOP wants to dismantle medicare is it is the perfect framework for a single payer program. The GOP know that the Dems will return to look at Single payer and if Medicade is dismantled, than it would be much harder to get Single Payer.
Truwriter
Keep the oatmeal I am a Moderate Dem
07:34 PM on 05/16/2011
I am a member of AARP and it is a terrible representative for American seniors. The non elected leadershp take political positons that are opposite of what benefits seniors and the organization spends most of its time hawking insurance programs and hustling subscriptions and memberships. Today I got more emails telling me that my membership is about to expire but it does not expire until near the end of 2011. It is a tactic used by companies that hustle seniors with magazines and other junk. Rather than rep the seniors AARP uses seniors like captives with the intention of delivering votes to candidates who often harm seniors.
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TurnToTheLeft
We have nothing to lose but our chains.
07:24 PM on 05/15/2011
Thank you AARP for calling out the truth on the Ryan Plan - it would destroy the social safety net of Medicare and Social Security for seniors, the working poor and the middle-class. The Ryan plan steals funds from the poor and gives those funds away to private insurers - it is welfare for the wealthiest corporations. The Tea Party/Republicans can defame you but they cannot defund you. We must all help to defeat Ryan when he runs for the Senate. Ryan is craven for power; he is not an economic "genius" nor is he "brave". Brave would be letting the Bush Tax Cuts extinguish, Raise taxes on the wealthiest (1 million plus), cut tax subsidies to Big Oil and Farms and thus balance the budget without cuts to Medicare and Social . That is bravery and it is spelled President Barrack Obama. Vote Democrat in 2012 - do not allow the Republicans to takeover the Senate.
Truwriter
Keep the oatmeal I am a Moderate Dem
07:38 PM on 05/16/2011
Sir, nice rant but the President is the first to not grant seniors any kind of a bump in their monthly benefits.For two years. First President ever and he did not raise the amount that seniors can earn in part time jobs from $14K. Seniors are the most vulnerable people in America as we are on fixed incomes. I cannot help but feel, as we often see with vendors and hustlers that we are thought to be stuipid and not noticing what the President has not done for seniors and he has raised the Medicare premiums, at the same time refusing to raise the benefit.
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pita143
Virtue mine honour
04:27 PM on 06/01/2011
Learn the truth.....it is NOT up to the President, it is an index that is Nonpolitical. BUT it was THIS President who tried to get a $250 payment to Seniors and that was blocked by the GOP.
romano70
If conservatives were smart, they'd be liberals
10:32 PM on 06/01/2011
God forbid the Feds gave more money away! We would be well on our way to socialism, we would be risking our children's future with all the debt...in short, the world will be inching apocalypse...you complain and yet I bet you vote for the same repupigs who blocked the increase in seniors allowance
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sugarbooger62
07:55 AM on 05/13/2011
Ryan is trying to dismantle Medicare and Social Security. He didn't mind drawing S.S. death benefits while growing up because of his father's death. Hmmmmmm
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Gregj
09:07 AM on 05/12/2011
I laugh when I see articles featuring Paul Ryan the great deficit hawk.He is the problem America .He years ago bought into David Stockman (Reagan's omb directors) Answer to how you get rid of social programs . Through tax breaks and endless unpaid wars you can starve the social security net. Of course now he says that his party destroyed this country. Here again is the great deficit hawks voting record.
1. Voted to repeal the Gramm- Leach Billey Act( Deregulating Banks).
2. Voted for the Commodity Futures Trading and Modernization Act.(deregulating derivatives).
3.In 2007 opposed new regulations on the sub-prime mortgage industry.
4. Voted for every war bill put on emergency spending or on our children's credit card.
5. Voted for the bank bailout.
6. He voted in favor of the federal budgets for the FISCAL YEARS 2000-2007. Which included the tax breaks that added to deficits.
7. He also voted for thr middle of the night passage of the disastrous Medicare Part D Prescription Drug Plan. The nation's top accountant,U.S Comptroller General David Walker said of the plans $8 Trillion in projected costs.
2010
Sat on the Deficit commission .. talked on TV shows how great they are doing ... to vote against it .
Supported to extend all Bush tax cuts adding another 8-900 Billion to the deficit
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MaryMay
May your tears come from laughing
11:00 AM on 05/14/2011
Enjoyed this and your other posts. Thanks. F&F
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08:53 AM on 05/12/2011
A prime example of hubris causing Mr. Ryan to become a legend in his own mind!
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Marmann
I'm sorry.Your guidelines do not meet my micro bio
08:44 AM on 05/12/2011
AARP's loyalty is to its members, who are senior citizens. They are loyal and representing their members against Paul Ryan's stupid attempt to dismantle Medicare. I suspect they will also be on board when Ryan wants to do away with Social Security, as well.

Mr. Ryan can't be so vocal about what he wants to do and then deny it when challenged. He's clearly kicking the poor and elderly to the curb because he simply doesn't WANT us in this country any more. Ryan's plan would add more stress to the lives of these people, and he's okay with that, until, as mentioned, he's challenged by a group such as AARP.

I don't think I want to underestimate the seniors in this country. Their voices can be very loud, and thank goodness they have AARP.
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Ed C Atlanta
Justice for all,,It's an Entitlement
09:33 AM on 05/12/2011
AARP, isn't strictly for seniors these days, I am in early 50"s and have been a member for the last 3 years,,you can join now at 50, I am grateful for the info they provide to seniors and near seniors,,
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Marmann
I'm sorry.Your guidelines do not meet my micro bio
09:39 AM on 05/12/2011
I know they accept membership from "younger" people, as well. In fact, I've been seriously thinking about joining it since I'm 58, and based on your post, it sounds like it could be good for me.

Thanks for your post.
Truwriter
Keep the oatmeal I am a Moderate Dem
07:40 PM on 05/16/2011
I am in AARP and not so impressed as you are with the leadership. Its a vote delivery system for political activists regardless of what benefits seniors. They mostly just hawk insurance companies for commissions and sell memberships in a fraudulent manner. Would love to see leadership voted on by membership but its not.
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tcnsrq
excuse me
08:40 AM on 05/12/2011
AARP will crush Ryan. The blue hairs have already started to yell at his town halls. Not happy days for the GOP......Grandma isn't happy about Ryan's death panels.
Truwriter
Keep the oatmeal I am a Moderate Dem
07:44 PM on 05/16/2011
Dude the death panels are left over from the health care struggle, don't think you can sell that now as a GOP program. Obama has some "splainin" to do to seniors for being the first President to not grant a bump in the monthly benefit (for two years now) and he has raised the Medicare premium. Also has not allowed any more income to seniors, for two yrs running. Senior often can eat the premium dog food if they can work part time jobs. Obama says no. People talking about wonderful AARP are not seniors, are not retired and are doing the loud talk that people often do to seniors thinking we are stupid. Obama has failed the seniors and we shall see what the GOP has, surely our votes have more power with the GOP right now, they want something. Obama just wants us to die and go away.
06:22 AM on 05/12/2011
Eddy Munster trying to take away medicare
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richj45
politically correct linux vegetarian
05:59 AM on 05/12/2011
Some reporter should ask John McCain what he thinks about Ryan and his plans for medicare and S.S.. Somehow the repub party considers Ryan a coming star when in reality he is yuppie scrum whose first concern is which color his new BMW will be..
05:48 AM on 05/12/2011
Left leaning? How so? It seems to me they serve their members and have a capitalistic business model besides.
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grf67
05:25 AM on 05/12/2011
ryancare means no affordable medical coverage for the nation's seniors. This is what happens when the voters let the radical fringe and baggers take over. Always vote.
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BillKen
02:26 AM on 05/12/2011
This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I am a proud member of AARP and I consider it
my lobbying group and from what I hear from these republicans, we have got their attention. I personally want these banditos to know that the days of passivity are over, I'm tired of getting the shaft and I know a lot of other people who feel the same way. We Seniors represent a formidable voting block, one that republicans should take seriously. We the People are tired of being disrespected, We the People are the owners of this company, USA, INC. and yet our elected employees show us no respect, we tell them our needs, they tell us it can't happen, they ridicule us, and make jokes.
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Ed C Atlanta
Justice for all,,It's an Entitlement
09:36 AM on 05/12/2011
fanned from one AARP member to another, you are right I consider this organization to be the main lobbying group for seniors and near seniors,,at least they are able to get our voice out there,,
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GomezAddams
Never go to bed angry... Or with a republican.
12:39 AM on 05/12/2011
Republicans want to give the elderly a check/voucher to buy insurance so they are at the mercy of a corporation that is designed to refuse medical care and treatments. What we need is medicare for all.

Insurances Company Administrative Charge = 20%

This was currently lowered from 33% thanks to Healthcare Reform what you all enjoy calling Obamacare.

Medicare Administrative Charge = 4%

Healthcare costs per person in USA = $7681.00

Population = 308,000,000

Total costs = $2.3567 trillion

Insurance Companies cost = $378.51968 billion dollars to exist.

Medicare Administrative costs = $94.6299 billion to exist.

Question 1: Which would have been the better value for our healthcare dollar

Question 2: Which would have provided us the better savings

We would save additional money since the uninsured would no longer be using Emergeny Rooms for healthcare. We need to end for profit insurance.
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proudtohaveserved
07:35 AM on 05/12/2011
GOMEZ. AWESOME EXCEPT FOR ONE THING, THE POPULATION OF THE USA IS NOW 320 MILLION, NOT 308 MILLION
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Richard Davis 1
Liberal Democrat, atheist
08:20 AM on 05/12/2011
He was leaving out those residing here illegally.
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askandtell
Proud Minnesotan; Inspired by Paul Wellstone
12:11 AM on 05/12/2011
Democrats could learn a lesson from this state senator in Minnesota...proposes legislators are the two-year pilot group for voucher healthcare.

Surprise amendment stuns Senate during debate over health care for poor

Sen. David Hann, R-Eden Prairie, introduced one of the GOP's plans for cutting Human Services costs by taking about 15,000 single adults out of MinnesotaCare and giving them vouchers so they can buy their own health insurance.

Hann sang the praises of the bill: It will save the state money. It will give the poor more choices. It will improve the health care of the poor. It will get government out of health care. It's the American way!

Then, Sen. Barb Goodwin, DFL-Columbia Heights, rose to speak. She offered a simple amendment to this GOP plan.

She said her amendment would require legislators to test the plan for two years, before the poor were forced into it.

"I hear what a wonderful deal this is for people," Goodwin said. "We can determine if this plan is working as it should."

Amendment greeted with silence

http://www.minnpost.com/stories/2011/05/11/28200/surprise_amendment_stuns_senate_during_debate_over_health_care_for_poor