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Ray LaHood: Amtrak Already Has Passenger List To Screen Against Threats

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First Posted: 05/11/11 01:10 PM ET Updated: 07/11/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood on Tuesday offered a detailed defense of passenger-rail safety amidst concerns from members of Congress that trains were vulnerable to terrorist attack.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Huffington Post, LaHood said he and his staff were prepared to work with lawmakers for an effective response to intelligence, culled from Osama bin Laden’s compound, suggesting that al Qaeda had set its sites on attacking Amtrak.

The transportation secretary notably declined to endorse a proposal put forward by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) calling for the creation of a “no-ride” list. But in an effort to quell immediate anxiety, he suggested the equivalent already exists.

“There is a manifest with every person's name who boards the train,” said LaHood. “Amtrak checks that to make sure that these people are legit people. They look at the list and then they check to see if somebody’s name looks peculiar. They have that manifest there and they can check it out if they want to. They know who is boarding trains.”

“Amtrak has some pretty good safety measures in place right now,” he added, with emphasis.

LaHood's remarks lift the curtain ever so slightly on the security precautions rail operators currently take. A manifest, however, is not a foolproof measure. A 2005 Department of Transportation study noted that “the conductor’s manifest is printed about 30 minutes before a train’s departure,” and nearly 60 percent of the 495 “unique stations” Amtrak operates are unstaffed -- meaning that passengers can board without notice.

Presented with these shortcomings, the Obama administration has begun the process of surveying effective policy responses. While rail safety officially falls under the domain of the Transportation Security Administration, LaHood has held talks with Schumer and, aides say, is ready to work with other members of Congress.

His role as legislative emissary is logical. A former member of Congress, LaHood has often been dispatched by the White House to rub elbows with his ex-colleagues (especially the Republicans with whom he caucused).

His informal lobbying has had positive results, with Congress appropriating $13 billion in funding for one of the Department of Transportation's top priorities: a national high-speed rail system. But with GOP leadership scoffing at additional spending ($1.5 bill was cut from high-speed rail in the recent budget deal) and with Republican governors in Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida rejecting federal funds to integrate the system into their states, many cast doubts about the viability or plausibility of the project.

“I don’t even lose like one second of sleep over the fact that three states turned it down,” LaHood said in response. “I’m not saying this in jest. I really believe there is only one person in Florida who didn’t want high-speed rail because we heard from thousands of other people who were so disappointed. The same is true in Wisconsin.”

“Even though we have had these little hiccups in three states,” he added, “when this system is done, Ohio will be connected, Florida will be connected, Wisconsin will be connected because this is what the people want. The people are way ahead of the elected officials on this.”

The White House banks on the public’s prescience as well. The president has requested $50 billion for high-speed rail in his FY2012 budget while LaHood continues to insist that within 25 years, 80 percent of the country will be connected by a national system. He notes it took the country 50 years to build the interstate highway system, during which a patchwork of projects gradually connected and skeptical lawmakers either changed their tune or were ousted from office.

As for why the same model would hold true for high-speed rail, his explanation is simple: it’s in the political self-interest of the elected official.

“The next election will be about the economy; that’s what it will be,” said LaHood. “This bin Laden stuff, as great as it is, a year from now you know what people are going to be thinking about? What’s the unemployment rate? How long have people been unemployed? How come they can’t find a job? And what is the economy like? So the reason to be for any infrastructure? It provides jobs.”

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WASHINGTON -- Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood on Tuesday offered a detailed defense of passenger-rail safety amidst concerns from members of Congress that trains were vulnerable to t...
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beckjr2000
been there done that & tired of it
05:37 PM on 05/11/2011
AMTRAK is safe enough and if they decide to put the TSA there well what else would you expect from this administration. The one thing that the Secretary cannot defend is the costs. Every year they lose a Billion or two. Just imagine how much the new High Speed Rail will lose? If America really wanted passenger rail it would not be the Money Losing Government controlled Red Headed Step Child that it is! My apologies to the Red Headed Step Children out there.
04:09 PM on 05/11/2011
"They look at the list and then they check to see if somebody’s name looks peculiar." Oh, Brother!!

What's next? A NO DRIVE LIST?

The NAZIS WOULD BE PROUD; they loved creating lists of people who never committed crimes, but were deemed "QUESTIONABLE".
02:50 PM on 05/11/2011
I was ASTOUNDED at the notion that there was no terrorist do not ride list for trains in our country. I cannot believe how incredibly irresponsible and monumentally twisted that such security measures have not been enforced and STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE since 9/11. What did these people die for? How in the names of all of those killed on 9/11 isn't anyone making a bigger deal about this SEVERE LACK OF SECURITY AND PROTECTION. You don't suppose that our law enforcement may consider the idea of terrorists evolving even further to using bombs in cars do you? Car bombs; imagine that. Why isn't anyone angry and appalled. Where are the appalled masses. Where are the journalists? WTF!?!?!?!
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Foxrocks
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02:39 PM on 05/11/2011
Everybody ready to take your shoes off, and get your package grabbed, before you hop on the train?
04:02 PM on 05/11/2011
"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself--anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face...; was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime..."
- George Orwell, "1984"
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North2011
"He who knows best, knows how little he knows"
02:08 PM on 05/11/2011
Chuck Schumer aka F-A-S-C-I-S-T...
01:50 PM on 05/11/2011
We kill Bin Laden and we more afraid than ever? This is not the way it is supposed to go...
04:07 PM on 05/11/2011
"the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival." - George Orwell, "1984"
01:34 PM on 05/11/2011
I really thought I read the threat to trains wasn't the passengers, rather it was the threat terrorists would blow up the rails and bridges derailing trains in the process. There is no way we can afford to have TSA begin screening passengers for any and all trains in the hope of deterring a terrorist attack anymore than it's possible to protect every one hundred yards of rail line 24/7. At some point you have to find the terrorists not surround every possible target of terrorism in the country. Taken to the extreme we may as well shut down the trains entirely, stop running buses cross country and make everyone undergo body cavity searches before they can board commercial flights. Even if we take away transportation targets they can simply switch to energy targets. the electricity grid for example, water supplies (although fracking may take care of that one for us). We can't all become government employees working for homeland security. I thought we wanted to reduce government spending not increase it
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01:54 PM on 05/11/2011
f/f!!!!
01:28 PM on 05/11/2011
Its not difficult to do, MTA is a more likely target though. Walk on with a vest or SMG you'd easily take out a full car of passengers, do it on multiple trains and Grand Central, well you'd shut down the whole system.
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
01:26 PM on 05/11/2011
That explains why there's been an MTA cop at my platform each morning since Monday. Wondered what that was about until I read the paper about OBL's possible targets. 

I have to say though, the MTA does a pretty poor job of security on the trains, never mind Amtrak.
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Seven Teenatheart
Tolerance, peace, and sanity. Be your own person.
01:13 PM on 05/11/2011
This concern about trains also came up right after 9/11 (about the same time that our news media was telling us how our water reservoirs could be easily poisoned).

Fear and hysteria will only cost us freedoms.
So when I see this again - what comes to mind is, "what will be the cost to our liberty and dignity this time?"
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01:58 PM on 05/11/2011
f/f!
Where's the hysteria about 2-hour traffic jams on freeways? Just drop a bomb from a helicopter and you'd wipe out 1000s, not to mention paralyze commerce.
This anti-train bias is obviously coming from Big Oil and their cohorts.
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Seven Teenatheart
Tolerance, peace, and sanity. Be your own person.
02:24 PM on 05/11/2011
Hey, you just described this morning's commute!

: )
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Eva fate
12:59 PM on 05/11/2011
“I’m not saying this in jest. I really believe there is only one person in Florida who didn’t want high-speed rail because we heard from thousands of other people who were so disappointed. The same is true in Wisconsin.”

Wisconsin Resident, here. This is 100% true. People want to get jobs building the high speed rail, but people were also excited about having a new way to travel- in my city, public transportation is a huge issue... It doesn't run to where most of the jobs are, and many people who are unemployed or underemployed go into debt trying to keep their cars running. The high-speed rail would be a step towards letting people of all social classes be able to commute more easily, and even to leave seriously impacted areas to try to find work in a nearby city.
01:15 PM on 05/11/2011
It would be cheaper just to give everyone a car allowance...
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02:03 PM on 05/11/2011
Isn't it nearly nap-time for you?
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iskra
Natural enemy of sharks and tro//s
01:25 PM on 05/11/2011
Once again the notion that only 'unemployed and underemployed' use public transit. 

That's just sooooooo midwest.
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Eva fate
01:38 PM on 05/11/2011
Sorry, but in my community... it's a big problem that public transit isn't there, and the main groups that would benefit from more of it are those without a lot of money, the elderly and disabled, and young people, and in my area, under 30 usually means "unemployed and underemployed" anyway.

Also, public transport has a lot more benefits than just helping people get where they want to go. It allows people to get more exercise by walking to stations, makes them feel a greater connection with their community, etc. Not to mention how much better it is for the environment. Those benefits aren't there with cars, and it wouldn't be cheaper to give everyone a car allowance in the long run. Once the rail is built, it's there.
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02:02 PM on 05/11/2011
Excuse me? I just might have to unfan you. I live between Detroit and Chicago and am both a frequent user of mass tans and a major supporter of HSR. Your assumption is SOOOOOOOOO....out-of-touch.
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12:47 PM on 05/11/2011
According to the Federal Railroad Administration, there is a train collision or derailment every 90 minutes. In each of the last 10 years, about 3,000 railroad crossing accidents have taken place with an annual rate of 1,000 deaths.
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02:06 PM on 05/11/2011
And the annual highway deaths are about 40,000!!!
12:35 PM on 05/11/2011
Kudos to the Secretary for not endorsing this Stalinist proposal emanating from New York's chief dual loyalist.
How people like Schumer can take an oath to uphold the Constitution with a straight face is beyond me- it means nothing to them. Apparently it's just a quaint old piece of paper that serves as a museum exhibit or as an anthology to cherry pick quotations for speeches loaded with ersatz patriotism, lacking in any real respect or veneration of it and signifying nothing.
"Terrorism" is a subterfuge for stripping away the rights of American citizens by promising to keep them safe- a proposition that means that they will ultimately be neither free nor safe.
It is better to live with improbable risk than under certain tyrrany.
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lemmyk73
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12:28 PM on 05/11/2011
Just like the Bush admin- Obama is using terror to push for more government control.

Get rid of everyone in Washington.
fuzzychickens
The higher the power, the bigger the lies
12:39 PM on 05/11/2011
Everyone in Washington is a puppet. Whoever you replace them with will be a puppet.

The only thing that can truly have a chance at fixing this is for a meteor to wipe out the human race and let some other intelligent species evolve out of the ashes.

We are too selffish as a species. Those that get a taste of power become addicted to it and always want more. The pyramid scheme isn't a scam - it's just how humans work.
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12:59 PM on 05/11/2011
Thanks for the happy thought.