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Tennessee Senate Approves Ban On Discussing Homosexuality

Tennessee Teaching Homosexuality Ban

By LUCAS L. JOHNSON II   05/20/11 10:29 PM ET  AP

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.

Opponents deride the measure as the "don't say gay bill." They say it's unfair to the children of gay parents and could lead to more bullying. Supporters say it is intended to give teachers clear guidance for dealing with younger children on a potentially explosive topic.

The bill isn't likely to be taken up by the House before lawmakers adjourn this spring, but the sponsor there has said he would push it forward in 2012 when the General Assembly comes back for the second year of the session.

Passage would make Tennessee the first state to enact such legislation, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. In 2003, Washington defeated a proposal similar to Tennessee's, as did California in 2005 and 2006. A Louisiana law forbids the use of sexually explicit materials depicting homosexuality in sex education classes.

Under the proposal, any instruction or materials at a public elementary or middle school would be limited to age-appropriate lessons about the science of human reproduction.

The legislation was amended from the original version, which said no elementary or middle schools will "provide any instruction or material that discusses sexual orientation other than heterosexuality." Republican Senate sponsor Stacey Campfield of Knoxville said some of his colleagues were uncomfortable with that language.

"There's more than one way to skin a cat," Campfield said after the vote. "I got what I wanted."

He said the language is appropriate because "homosexuals don't naturally reproduce," and he said it's necessary because the state's curriculum is unclear on what can be taught.

However, a critic said the new wording could create other problems.

Sen. Roy Herron, D- Dresden, said it "may inadvertently prevent the teaching of ethics, morality and abstinence."

Stephen Smith, assistant commissioner of the Tennessee Department of Education, also said he's unaware of homosexuality being taught anywhere in the state. He said there is nothing in the state's curriculum standards that allows students to be taught about homosexuality.

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay...
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay...
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eve mahar
12:31 AM on 05/26/2011
I'm done debating with people who use ignorance, lies, hate and fear to back up their opinions.

I'll leave you with the words from a dear (straight and married) friend of mine.

"I may be straight, but honestly...my basic gut feeling about the whole topic of sexuality is that love -- real, true, sincere, committed, devoted LOVE -- is such a rare and precious thing in this universe...to discourage or scorn it whereEVER it exists is the true abomination. I simply cannot wrap my brain around where the hate comes from. I really can't.

People are people. People fall in love with other people, and take care of each other. That's a beautiful thing, right? I hope one day, that's all there is to say."

Amen.
12:13 PM on 05/26/2011
What does love have to do with civil marriage?
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eve mahar
04:13 PM on 05/26/2011
If you don't know what love has to do with marriage (civil or otherwise), I really can't help you.
03:31 AM on 05/29/2011
NICE SELF SERVING POST, BUT WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH RAISING A CHILD OR GRADE SCHOOL ?
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Willie Huff
06:46 PM on 06/22/2011
CAPS LOK IS CRUISE CONTROL 4 AWESOME AMIRITE?!
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peskime
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel
10:50 PM on 05/24/2011
The truth is NO ONE who is sure about their own sexuality has a problem with gay people.
There was a university study in the mid nineties that studied heterosexual men being exposed to gay porn. The more hostile and homophobic a person was the more aroused he became when viewing the sexually explicit homosexual erotica.
Nom de plumes that include the phallic imagery of a bayonet, furthers my belief that some people simply 'protest too much.' No public school is going to get into sexually explicit material with children, rather they are going to point out there are gay people in the world.

DUH!
12:22 PM on 05/26/2011
Sexual arousal is a response to aggression.

Gay porn is about aggression on someone of the same sex. Straight porn is about aggression on someone of the opposite sex.

DUH.

http://www.johnbriere.com/mc
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eve mahar
08:07 PM on 05/27/2011
so when people make love to their spouse they are taking out aggression? Um...don't think so. Of course, sometimes a bit of aggression can be nice...
03:38 AM on 05/29/2011
YOU ONE OF THOSE LEATHER BOYS??

I MEAN,, WHO GOES AROUND WATCHING VIOLENT GAY PORN, SOMETHING I FIND DISTURBING
01:11 PM on 05/24/2011
Once again we have the false argument comparing race and homosexuality. As is par for the Homosexual agenda numerous inaccuracies, half-truths, fallacies, and overt propaganda have been disseminated to the public as uncontested truth. Homosexuality is neither a normal nor a healthy lifestyle. Parents and schools have the right to not have their children taught directly or through implication that it is. They cannot be discriminated against, but their lifestyle is not normal, nor in need of special rights. The most loving thing we can do is to help homosexuals realize this and offer them our help, prayers, and encouragement to move away from this sin. we dont owe them our acceptance of it as normal
01:34 PM on 05/24/2011
And on what do you base this claim that homosexuality is not "normal" or "healthy?" Besides, what difference does it even make if something is "normal?" It isn't "normal" to be an Aboriginal Australian living in the US, and yet I doubt you'd advocate discriminating against them.
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Atwill
Christian puppets scare me
08:07 AM on 05/25/2011
there is no such thing as a gay agenda.
08:20 PM on 05/25/2011
OMG, your're kidding, right?

For starters, read "After the Ball" available on Amazon.
08:58 PM on 05/25/2011
LOL
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beasteben
HP 542 PSI 235
10:41 AM on 05/24/2011
Hicks.
04:52 PM on 05/23/2011
I'm over this. I don't believe in homophobia but I do believe in the fear that we are not strong enough, or confident enough to decide what's best for ourselves and/or our youth. Somehow the idea that gay focus would promote homosexuality. But this topic is just like any other topic - you're either going to be into it or you're not. We see murder, drug use and rape on television and the internet EVERYDAY. That doesn't suggest that we're going to go out and become criminals. Likewise, it shouldn't be a fear to people that learning about what's been in our history for centuries will cause some kind of uproar of gayness. They teach racism and slavery in schools. Does that mean children will suddenly become racists and slave owners? Don't think so. Stop hindering education. Some may argue that this issue isn't educative, and they may have a point, but I've found it amazing how finding links between seemingly unrelated topics leads to genius. The geniuses we know of today, Newton, Einstein, etc weren't geniuses because they were born smart. They were geniuses because they were allowed to study EVERYTHING, and by doing so find links between topics that lead to advanced knowledge. Let the children learn and choose their own paths. What's going to happen will happen no matter how many laws and/or restrictions are put in place.
12:20 PM on 05/23/2011
leave it to Tn.. to waste time on something like this... instead of getting down to business on things that really matter
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lislbc
if only closed minds came with closed mouths...
12:00 PM on 05/23/2011
Excellent. Even better than book-burning. Word-banning. If I don't hear it then it doesn't exist. *places hands over ears and sings lalalalalalalalalalala*
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Mr Nightlinger
Corporate outsourcing same as hiring illegals
10:05 AM on 05/23/2011
Censorship, in general, is bad, and there is no way to enforce this ultra-conservative bill, but it has passed, and that is democracy. But this is not the giant issue it is being made out to be. It doesn't bother me if sex is not discussed in schools at all--straight sex, gay sex, no sex. I agree with the poster who earlier wrote that the responsibility falls on the parents, not the teachers. Personally, I think being homosexual seems to make a lot of people happy, so those people should be homosexual. And nothing in the U.S. prevents gay people from being gay or being openly gay, or being privately gay. What I never understand is when gay people get adamant about their need to be accepted or their need to be able to "act gay" or live "the gay lifestyle" because I do not understand what that even means. Everyone in the U.S. can act however they want. Being gay is something you do sexually, in your bedroom, isn't it? Go be happy and be gay. What does anyone care? Why do we need to explain what people do in their bedrooms to get off--straight sex or gay sex--to children in schools? I don't think the bill is a big deal at all.
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eve mahar
03:53 PM on 05/23/2011
Obviously, you aren't gay, or you'd know the answers to some of those questions. Why are we so adamant about being accepted? First- being gay is not simply about what you do in the bedroom- anymore than that is all that being heterosexual is about. it is about love, companionship, relationships, spouses, children, family. It is a piece of who you are.

it is not a "lifestyle" anymore that being straight is a lifestyle. I'm a lesbian, I have kids, I got to school, I drive them to soccer, we do dinner and homework at night. Is that a gay lifestyle?

Imagine if you are gay parents in Tennessee and your child goes to school. How would it make you or your child feel, knowing that it is forbidden- taboo even, to even mention what type of family you are, who your parents are, to be made to feel that there must be something intrinsically wrong with it. It is not acceptable.

This is NOT about sex.
09:05 PM on 05/23/2011
Your kid won't care.

It's all about YOU.

One of the worst things you can do for a child.

And one of the most common acts amongst "gay parents."
11:43 AM on 05/24/2011
you're right your lifestyle is not acceptable to most........and many people don't want their young kids exposed to it
11:41 AM on 05/24/2011
agreed
09:48 AM on 05/23/2011
With all the trivial things like three wars, unemployment, health care, education, etc., that our federal and state governments have been wasting their time with, it is encouraging to see that at least Tennessee is dealing with one of the more important issues.
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v0cifer8
01:31 PM on 05/23/2011
Being a resident of Tennessee (albeit a "transplant"), I wholeheartedly agree with your sarcasm... Couldn't have said it better myself! F&F
09:52 AM on 05/24/2011
Thanks. I love my wonderful cousins, who are also from Tennessee.
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Blissful
ignorance is not
08:46 AM on 05/23/2011
If you just don't say it, they will go away.
Watch this, hilarious......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkIWB3HIEs
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kokobell616
No news is new news when old news is newsworthy.
07:06 AM on 05/23/2011
I am probably to old for this discussion. But why in the world would sexuality need to be taught to children in eighth grade and under? Reproduction and how the genitals work, ok. I believe that sexuality and the emotions that result when two people engage in sexual activity is likely not appropriate for the immature minds of grade school children. For heck sake some adults still cant seem to grasp the concept. (narrow minded republicans take note might just be a quiz later)
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eve mahar
03:58 PM on 05/23/2011
I don't think its about just sex education...what about kids with gay parents? Don't you think they will be made to feel inferior or bad when their families are banned from being discussed ever? How would the parents feel? It's disgraceful.
05:34 PM on 05/23/2011
How will their families be banned from discussion by not using the word "gay?"

They will be relieved not to have to discuss "gay,"
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kokobell616
No news is new news when old news is newsworthy.
07:10 PM on 05/23/2011
I am from a time when as a elementary age child I rarely spoke of my parents in school. There was always so much else going on. And to the point of being made to feel inferior. All children are made to feel that way at some point by the other kids. At least they try in an effort to set the pecking order. At least thats the way I remember things.
05:32 PM on 05/23/2011
Spot on.
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Turtlenewz
03:35 AM on 05/23/2011
Boycott Tennessee
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MichaelRCooke
A cartoonist and webmaster.
02:16 AM on 05/23/2011
I am a forbidden word.
08:56 AM on 05/23/2011
Takei?

Oh, my!
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omobob
left coast, usa
02:11 AM on 05/23/2011
> A bill passed Friday by the Tennessee Senate would forbid public school teachers and students in grades kindergarten through eight from discussing the fact that some people are gay.

Nothing like passing a law you couldn’t possibly enforce. Teachers are not policemen. What values are the Senate of Tennessee teaching the children today. That discrimination and bigotry are still alive in Tennessee.
02:01 AM on 05/23/2011
Can I say queer, or discuss how I like to be licked with your seven year old daughter, or do you want to stop my free speech ?
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MichaelRCooke
A cartoonist and webmaster.
02:28 AM on 05/23/2011
Well, Gay parents apparently will be forbidden from picking their child up from school. Any same sex revelation about Republican politicians will become banned information because small children can read newspapers and watch the news. Barack Obama's presidential campaign will be banned because he supports limited rights for that morally corrupt sexual minority that dare not speak its name.

And yes, it's not right unless we establish guidlines on punishing people that do say the "g" word in such a way they do not do it again. I suggest a bullet between the eyes.

And please, please don't anyone dare say its wrong to treat Queers like second class citizens. WE ARE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS! I should know! I are one!
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Turtlenewz
03:31 AM on 05/23/2011
Tennessee will use this Law to fire Gay teachers
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v0cifer8
01:38 PM on 05/23/2011
I'm sorry...well, actually, I'm not. Your argument is sorry. First off: Are you SERIOUS!? I'd be offended if you discussed those same topics with my hypothetical seven year old daughter if you were straight! WHO discusses those things in front of children!? Certainly not myself, or any of my gay or straight friends. Usually I find the over-reacting comments humorous, but yours crosses over into offensive... Why is it that the FIRST THING conservatives have to say in defense of their HATRED for homosexuals is that they're "rubbing their lifestyle (which it's NOT a "lifestyle") in our faces!" or "they're trying to indoctrinate our children!" or "they'd marry their furniture if we let 'em!" or "insert some outlandish far-reaching complaint here!" - I don't care if you're gay or straight: ANY talk like that in front of children is inappropriate. The fact that you think homosexuals talk like that in front of children just shows how ignorant you truly are...
06:05 AM on 05/24/2011
I wanted to provoke a reaction. It was purposely made as offensive as possible to make people realize there should be some limits to "free speech".