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Medicare Cuts Unpopular In Swing States, Polls Suggest

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First Posted: 05/23/11 09:01 AM ET Updated: 07/21/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- A coalition of progressive groups is warning swing state Democrats to think twice before embracing parts of the Republican budget plan that would privatize Medicare and cut Medicaid.

Armed with a stark set of polls they plan to release this week, the groups -- Progressive Change Campaign Committee, Democracy for America, MoveOn.org and Credo Action -- are telling Democratic Sens. Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Jon Tester (Mont.), and Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) to stand tall on the popular social safety net programs.

"Democrats need to say firmly that any tampering whatsoever with Medicare and Medicaid benefits is off the table," said Charles Chamberlain, Democracy for America's political director.

All four of the senators are up for reelection in 2012.

McCaskill's Missouri shows the largest divide in surveys done by the Democratically friendly Public Policy Polling, especially on Medicare. When asked, "In order to reduce the national debt, would you support or oppose cutting spending on Medicare, which is the government health insurance program for the elderly?" just 19 percent of respondents said they would, while an overwhelming 77 percent said they would oppose cuts.

Similarly, 20 percent back cuts in Brown's Ohio, while 76 percent oppose them. In Tester's Montana, it's 24 percent favoring cuts and 71 percent against. Just 26 percent of Minnesotans would want Klobuchar to vote to cut Medicare, while 69 percent say to vote against.

Brown's spokeswoman, Meghan Dubyak, said there was no chance her boss would bend on Medicare, pointing to a letter he wrote recently defending the program.

"Sen. Brown strongly believes that any effort to dismantle Medicare as we know it to give extra tax cuts to millionaires is a non-starter," Dubyak said. "That’s why he led 50 of his colleagues in a letter expressing solid opposition to Medicare privatization."

The numbers are almost as sharp on support for cutting Medicaid in all four states: Ohio is 33 percent in favor to 61 percent against; Missouri is 32 percent to 63 percent; Montana is 36 percent to 59 percent; and Minnesota 33 to 62 percent.

The GOP budget proposal penned by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) released in April advises turning Medicaid into a grant program run by the states, while the federal government would subsidize retirees buy Medicare plans themselves in the private health insurance market. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that seniors' medical costs would rise twice as fast under the GOP Medicare plan as they are rising now, hitting more than $12,000 in out-of-pocket costs in 2021.

Democrats have been pounding the GOP relentlessly on the issue, and it's become a central issue in Tuesday's special election in New York's Republican-leaning 26th Congressional District, where the Democrat took the lead over the weekend.

The Democratic Party is showing no signs of letting up, but the progressive groups wanted to remind the swing-state senators that moving toward the GOP position could hurt them as they head into their campaigns.

"Democrats are right to blast Republicans for supporting Paul Ryan’s plan to eliminate Medicare," said Stephanie Taylor, the co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. "This polling shows that Democratic incumbents facing re-election in 2012 will have overwhelming support if they defend Medicare and Medicaid -- and will have serious problems if they vote to cut either program in any way."

Some critics have downplayed the results of PPP polling as favoring Democrats, but the questions in these surveys were modeled on the well-regarded ABC News/Washington Post survey, which found similar results nationally in late April, with just 21 percent supporting Medicare cuts and 30 percent supporting Medicaid cuts.

The PPP surveys had margins of error ranging from 2.6 percent to 3.1 percent.

Quick Poll

Should Democrats compromise on Medicare and Medicaid?

Yes. It will show voters the party is making a good-faith effort to rein in spending.

No. The issue is a loser for the GOP, and Democrats shouldn't budge.

Maybe. But only if Republicans make significant concessions, too.

I'm not sure.

This story was updated to add a comment from Sen. Sherrod Brown's office.

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WASHINGTON -- A coalition of progressive groups is warning swing state Democrats to think twice before embracing parts of the Republican budget plan that would privatize Medicare and cut Medicaid. ...
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kraki
Member of Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
01:37 PM on 05/26/2011
Medicare is doomed.
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Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
08:05 AM on 05/26/2011
Medicare cuts are unpopular in every state. You can only prey on people's prejudices for so long to rationalize subsidizing the rich for the supposed benefit of everyone. It's one thing to make people hate their neighbors in the form of public worker bashing, but it's another to ask them to hate themselves. If anything, the death of the trickle down myth should wake people up to the fact that when they turn on their fellow citizens, they are merely paving the way for their own punishment.
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katylab
cops have the best dope
03:26 AM on 05/25/2011
Any Democrat who betrays progressive principles MUST be challenged in the primary.
10:09 PM on 05/24/2011
It is OK to cut $500 Billion from Medicare (which is going bankrupt) to fund Obamacare but it is outrageous to suggest that Medicare needs to be restructured to survive and to present one possible way of doing it, as the Ryan proposal suggests. And, his proposal does not affect anyone 55 years old or older, and does not fully transition to the new program subsidized by the government for 10 years. This just goes to show you how much in denial the liberals are of how fragile the current Medicare program is and it's forecasted financially driven demise. Why not take a look at the current situation and come up with some modern concepts to save Medicare? Is there something the government does not want to admit?
02:36 AM on 05/25/2011
Republicans and looney bin Tea Partyer's are for the rich....period. Don't blieve a word of Paul Ryan's bill...one that even he has flip-flopped over because he now relalizes he will hurt alot of middle-class and senior citizens, plus get his fellow elected officials who support him thrown out of office and replaced by a Democrat.

Daybull
12:16 PM on 05/24/2011
Special interests have hijacked Medicare by rationing healthcare of the taxpayers who fund it. eg:
Kaiser Permanente Death Panel Cost Containment
Original, documented investigation on Kaiser Permanente’s rigged end of life counseling, “Birth of a Real Life Death Panel,” is posted on www.hmohardball.com at http://www.hmohardball.com/Death%20Panel%20Birth%20&%20Attachments%201st%20in%20Series%202-14-2011.pdf
Twenty years ago, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, ObamaCare’s ethics engineer, published that he had invented a scheme that induced 70% of patients to reject treatment and life support in a 15 minute end of life counseling session. He would deny Rep. Giffords’ care, because she may not be able to “meaningfully participate” in the American "polity."
POLITICIANS, BUREAUCRATS, AND DR. STRANGELOVE PHYSICIANS ARE “BENDING THE COST CURVE,” BUT BREAKING THE PATIENTS AND DESTROYING THE DOCTOR- PATIENT RELATIONSHIP.
Robert Finney, Ph.D.
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Daly
11:37 PM on 05/24/2011
if this were fact I am sure the party of no would have been parading it across their SaudiFinanceNetwork for all their viewers to fear.
12:14 PM on 05/25/2011
Neither Kaiser Permanente nor any other organization or individual has ever disputed any of the facts in this documented investigation.
Robert Finne PhD
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Bella Lee
10:53 AM on 05/24/2011
Lol The GOP failed to make the "we have a mandate" lie stick. Love the title: cut Medicare, lose election. GOP should have listened to the American people, Obama did, which is why he'll be re-elected.
08:55 AM on 05/24/2011
What are we doing? Are we insane?

The US has 716 bases around the world not including those in areas of war. The Military budget approaches one trillion dollars including lies and misrepresentation. Almost all intelligence and military operations are controlled by fraudulent private for profit entities clouded in national security and not accountable to any anyone. Yet, as we contemplate dismantling the social network that supports those left out of a failed system, slashing the safety net, there is not one word said about this preposterous irrationality.

The Military Industrial Complex is ludicrous; it comprises 1/3 of the economy and probably 50% of the brainpower; the minds of participants and individual citizens so skewed that the absurd is commonplace.

Corporate entities dominate America. America exists for them; they control it completely. The best and brightest, well paid Americans, inflict pain and convoluted arguments on their dimwitted neighbors.

We don’t live in a Democracy; we live in a fascist, economic - political, militaristic dictatorship of the few supported by a psychological adept propaganda system in control of all mediums of information.

The average American is confused and full of bile towards his neighbor; they support the system without question. They send their sons to die for it. They pray for it. It is the creed of their religions. And, apparently, are willing to sacrifice their souls, welfare and future to it.
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commentsareus
08:48 AM on 05/24/2011
mitchell m ,you are joking right? The richest rich can pay lobbyists to threaten and bribe congress people and senators into fixing the rules in there favor, very unfairly I might add. wake up!
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truly moderate
Paleo-conservative and Anti-tea party
05:36 AM on 05/24/2011
So far, only 2 GOP moderates in the Senate have come out against Paul Ryan's plan, although considering Mccain's previous support towards Medicare and Lisa Murkowski's defense of planned parenthood, thats atleast 4 GOP votes against Paul Ryan's plan. Add to that statements from atleast some of the blue dog conservatives that they will NOT side with the GOP on this issue and support Paul Ryan's plan.

Folks, while this may pass in the more CONservative house, I am fairly confident that through a handful of moderate GOpers in the senate coupled with blue dogs not voting with the GOP on this issue that the Senate will have enough votes to keep this horrible bill from passing.

What can we do? If you have a moderate GOP Senator or a blue dog Dem in your district, write them, and tell them that as an American you feel this plan is WRONG for America. If they really care about our Seniors, they will hear our appeals and vote for what's best for America......and not with the TP side of the GOP just cause their blue dogs or have an R next to their name!
01:00 AM on 05/24/2011
Americans are so ignorant and people who support cutting Medicare
12:22 AM on 05/24/2011
I'm afraid the only way the American people will get politicians to listen to them...is to hire a lobbyist.
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rebelriser
artist, published author, activist
11:25 PM on 05/23/2011
The state of our electorate is sad, the worst I've ever seen it, and it seems that the dumber voters are, the more irresponsible Republicans become. People had better educate themselves concerning the issues of each candidate and I'm not speaking of FOX as a reputable means of sound information. MOST IMPORTANT is the need that people STOP voting for politicians who don't want to protect the poor, the elderly and our environment. These are the tests of caring, loving human beings.
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Trublulu
11:09 PM on 05/23/2011
I remember when Ryan first came on the scene with his so-called Medicare "improvement" plan. Right-wing media hailed Ryan as an up and coming Republican star. There was talk of running him for the Wisconsin senate or as v.p. on the presidential ticket.

Now the Republicans are trying to distance themselves from his plan while not abandoning one of their younger more "promising" pols.

In reality,Ryan never had a credible opponent in his runs for Congress. He has a bachelors' degree in poli sci and knows little about the budget. He never worked at a "real" job, spending most of his time after college graduation as a Republican staffer. He probably does not have the savvy to become a community organizer.

Like the fast rising tea party movement, Ryan shot up from the pack quickly, but appears to be a falling star. People are starting to feel more comfortable with some of the older,more experienced politicians, who at least try to work with the opposition instead of throwing wrenches at every attempt at bi-partisianship. Most of all, both young and old, need Medicare and Social Security to be there for them in these uncertain times.
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Abraham1771
Polymath Rationalist
04:16 AM on 05/24/2011
Ryan is "courageous" because he blames his staffers for all the algebraic errors he made in his proposal. Really! Courageous, innovative, strong, brave, smart!

Imagine, you bring your most important bill to Congress, and then a high school student finds you made a $480 Billion error by not (a) counting interest incurred, and (b) not accounting $300 Billion taken from the Hospital Insurance Trust fund (via Treasury Bills, just like the Social Security Trust Fund which is being used to pay for tax Cuts for the rich)! You want this Ryan guy as your accountant? How long will it be until you go to jail for tax fraud!

Don’t even mention that Ryan sees unemployment falling, by 2018, to 2.8%, the lowest level since the roaring 20s -- and then going lower! His source: the Heritage Foundation.
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WakeUp2021
57% Approval and Growing!
11:04 PM on 05/23/2011
Only the lame stream media would refer to the republican plan to give $3 trillion in additional tax cuts to the rich and pay for it by k.illing our parents as "courage".
FederalFrmr1
And should an oppressive government be the....
10:59 PM on 05/23/2011
"Corporations have begun to send a majority of donations from their political action committees to Republican candidates, a reversal from the trend of the past three years.....According to data from the Center for Responsive Politics, business PACs gave 52% of their $72.2 million in total donations to Republican candidates from January through July.
In the same period of 2009, corporate PACs had sent 59% of their $64 million in campaign contributions to Democratic candidates, according to the data. AT&T Corp. and GlaxoSmithKline PLC are among the companies whose PAC donations shifted this year toward GOP candidates." My my my, those nasty Republicans got the short end of the stick for three years with those greedy nasty corporations giving more money to the dems...but after Obama took office the PAC scene is changing. Funny, I don't recall all the liberals complaining when the dems were getting the bucks!
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Tenderlies1
Im Old Enough to know better, are you
11:10 PM on 05/23/2011
If you check yu will find that Big Corps and Oil knew Obama was the man and no way was McCain and Palin gonna win President or V, President. They tried the money thing to Democrats saw that wasn't going to work so bck to the old faithfuls they fold every time for them
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jondekonkeroo
Spells and remedies..
11:11 PM on 05/23/2011
I did. they went to blue dogs.

We have plenty of corporatists in the democratic party, maybe as much as 33% but they saturate the republicans. they're all corporatists.

However, the grass roots is a different story, one you probably deny. that won't be possible forever.