NYC Smoking Ban In Parks Is Now In Effect, Enforced

  Jill Colvin First Posted: 05/23/11 10:14 AM ET Updated: 07/23/11 06:12 AM ET

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MIDTOWN -- Butt out.

The city's controversial outdoor smoking ban starts Monday, with cigarettes now barred at city parks, beaches and pedestrian plazas, including Times Square. Violators will be met with $50 fines.

Critics say the law, which was passed earlier this year to minimize second-hand smoke exposure, takes Mayor Michael Bloomberg's war against cigarettes one step too far.

But others say they're looking forward to relaxing on Sheep Meadow or the beach this summer without inhaling others' fumes.

"It will be better for everybody," said long-time smoker Konstadinos Hijas, 48, a construction worker in Midtown, as he smoked one last cigarette Sunday night at a table in Greeley Square, near 34th Street.

Come morning, he said he'd be smoking outside the park's gates in the street -- a move he hoped might help him quit after 30 years of addiction.

"Cigarettes are no good," agreed long-time smoker and Midtown worker Tony Romeu, 53, as he exhaled a mouthful of smoke.

But others were less convinced the ban is necessary.

"I don't see the point," said non-smoker Sharon White, 41, visiting from England, who thinks the rule keeping smokers out of restaurants and bars is enough to protect those who want to steer clear of smoke.

"I think you've got to have some freedom," said White. "I think it's unfair."

Brooklyn smoker J. Leigh, 28, who declined to give her full name, said that smokers shouldn't be singled out, especially since taxes are so high.

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," she said, and warned the law would drive smokers into their homes, forcing them to light up in much more confined spaces than city parks.

"I think it's counter-productive," she said.

Smoking will still be allowed on sidewalks, including those outside of parks and around plazas, as well as on pedestrian routes running through parks.

But whether the new ban will actually be enforced is another matter.

At a public hearing earlier this month, officials from the Department of Transportation testified they would not be enforcing the ban on pedestrian plazas, which they control.

"We expect that the new law will be enforced mostly by New Yorkers themselves, who will ask people to follow the law and stop smoking," reads a notice posted on the Parks Department website.

Parks Enforcement Officers do have the authority to issue summonses to those who break the rule, but "when possible will educate and advise before taking further action when overseeing compliance," a department spokesman said.

If a smoker refuses to comply, he or she can then be summonsed, the spokesman said.

But Audrey Silk, the founder of the smokers' rights group Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment, is advising smokers to ignore the ban. The group is also planning a public 'smoke-in' at Brighton Beach next Saturday.

"When the law is something with no justifiable reason behind it -- scientific or otherwise -- they leave us no other choice but to affect change with civil disobedience," she said, reiterating previous warnings that the ban will result in hostile confrontations.

"That will be the only harm that will come down to smoking," she said.

City Councilwoman and co-sponsor Gale Brewer has repeatedly dismissed threats of violence, saying she heard similar talk when the city introduced the smoking ban in bars and restaurants years ago, and that they never materialized.

But smoker Dara Adayte, 24, from the Bronx, said he doubts anyone will bother butting out unless they're explicitly told.

"This is New York. I don't think nobody's going to listen," he said.


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02:11 PM on 05/29/2011
So?? 50,000 New Yorkers were arrested last year for smoking/possessing marijuana. Have you ever been arrested for smoking a cigarette?
08:37 AM on 05/27/2011
liberalism at its finest. just admit it, liberals are the true racists.
03:31 PM on 05/26/2011
It's so easy to target smokers. The logic being that you can see the smoke and you can smell it...... it's right there so it must be doing something really bad! Unlike the dangerous fibers in that new carpet you just installed, the invisible toxins that plastic bowl of food you just ate, the sweet smell of all those new chemically laden plug-in air fresheners, and let's not forget those dangerous plastic fumes that build up in your car when it's 90 degrees! You can do a search on almost ANYTHING and it will be linked to some type of cancer and inevitably there will be a study to back it up. That being said, smokers are now a minority and the majority has simply decided that they just don't like smokers anymore (they stink, they're messy, they must be uneducated about the dangers, they're rude and how dare they do something that I don't approve of, and most of all, they are now considered dangerous and toxic!!!). People have vices and you can't please everybody. I don't know what the answer is, but I am sure that people advocating for more government control in our private lives is much more dangerous than cigarette smoke.

Also, I don't live in NYC, but from some of the posts on here, I am assuming the parks must be wall to wall people since a lot of people are having smoke blown right into their faces ;)
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alteredstory
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05:18 PM on 05/26/2011
Actually, studies have shown that there is no minimum safe amount of cigarette smoke.

In addition, just smelling the stuff is enough to give me a headache, and when I was singing in a choir, if I was unlucky enough to breathe in any smoke, it made concerts painful.

I have a problem with some of the other stuff you mention, but I have a choice about what kind of carpets I get, or whether I use air fresheners, and so on. I don't have a choice if I'm outside and I have to walk through clouds of smoke.
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Iatros78
Science is the consensus of expert opinion
07:40 PM on 05/26/2011
The logic behind the conclusion that tobacco smoke is harmful to human health is scientific and not based on the fact that you can see and smell it "so it must be doing something really bad." Tobacco smoke, including secondhand smoke, is recognized by the world's leading cancer research institutions, the International Agency for Research on Cancer and the US National Toxicology Program, as a "known" human carcinogen. There are only a little over a hundred substances, mixtures, and exposure circumstances that are scientifically known to cause cancer in humans. Asbestos, cadmium, and benzene are a few other examples. Carpets, plastic bowls, and air-fresheners are not. You seem to be suggesting that since some scientific studies suggest that certain other substances might be harmful or carcinogenic, that we must conclude that everything is harmful and therefore that science is of no value in helping us decide what we should allow in our environment. Is this the justification you use to continue smoking? It's not a very good one. Scientific studies give evidence for all sorts of possible conclusions. Only continued peer-reviewed research, meta-analyses, and the consensus of the scientific community can help establish the highest level of scientific certainty. Such a high level of certainty has been established with regard to tobacco smoke. Restricting tobacco smoke is no more of a threat to freedom than restricting asbestos, benzene, or any other known carcinogen.
09:06 PM on 05/26/2011
Calm down! All I meant was that because we can see and smell the smoke, it seems logical that it would draw more attention than other toxins that may or may not be as obvious to our eyes or nose. Site your studies all day long. For every study that finds cancer risks associated with secondhand smoke, there's another that doesn't. Smokers lost the battle when privately owned establishments were allowed to be controlled by government. There will be no stopping a ban on public property now.
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
11:43 AM on 05/26/2011
smoking is bad - granted - but car and diesel exhaust fumes are a much greater health risk.
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Iatros78
Science is the consensus of expert opinion
12:23 PM on 05/26/2011
And exactly how do you know that car and diesel exhaust fumes are a much greater health risk than tobacco smoke?
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
12:32 PM on 05/26/2011
numerous studies have been conducted - exhaust is much more pervasive than cigarette smoke. and i am referring to areas outside of buildings - to see people complaining about someone smoking on the sidewalk while they are breathing in air polluted by the exhaust of hundreds if not thousands of cars and truck is ludicrous at best

diesel dust is particularly toxic with its nano like particles
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alteredstory
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05:19 PM on 05/26/2011
Getting rid of the use of gasoline is my priority. I'm just glad that other people are working on cigarettes.
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
06:10 PM on 05/26/2011
same here
09:35 AM on 05/26/2011
I think this is GREAT and it should also be extended to include shared roof deck spaces.
01:59 PM on 05/25/2011
I'm not a smoker. Never have been. Never will be. In fact, I'm an asthmatic, so I detest smoke. And I find smokers to be among the most obnoxious people walking around. They don't seem to care where they blow their smoke, or flick their ashes, or throw their butts. In spite of these sentiments, I strongly object to these oppressive laws that are being enforced on smokers. If you want to criminalize smoking, then make it a crime. Stop pussyfooting around the idea, and get to it already. Otherwise leave the smokers alone. Put your energy, time, and money into getting drunk drivers off the road. Or getting homeless crazy people off the streets. Or getting the pedophiles out of the churches. Let's stop the nonsense, and get our priorities straight.
09:51 PM on 06/11/2011
very well said
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American In Chicago
10:16 AM on 05/25/2011
There has been a cigarette ban in Chicago's parks and beaches as well as restaurants and bars for several years. The ban in parks and on beaches is not as well enforced as the indoors ban. Anyway, one encounters less and less smokers all the time. Cigarettes are about $8.50 or $9.00 a pack now so that is also a factor.

It was the factor that led me to attempt to break the addiction. I am going on two years without a cigarette now. I partially credit my success to fact that I encounter so much less exposure to nicotine than I did during previous attempts.

If you consider that and consider that cigarette smoke is a toxin as well as a persistent acrid stench it makes sense to support and obey restrictions on public smoking. You should also consider that if you choose to continue to smoke it is only decent not to expose others who don't to the byproducts of your habit.

Take a break from aggrandizing your personal indulgence into a civil right or minimizing the harm you are unduly causing others and consider the effect you are having. After failing the first couple of times I tried to quit, my experience and empathy led me to becoming highly circumspect and discreet with my habit. I am grateful that this time around fewer other people still smoke and those that do are much more considerate about it.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
05:20 PM on 05/26/2011
Thanks for being considerate!
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Peter007
09:00 AM on 05/25/2011
This law was not created to protect non smokers from breathing in smoke.
It was made into law because elitists want everyone to behave and believe in the way they do.
It's similar to racism.
Racism is when you want the other race to adhere to your races culture.
How many people, sitting in an area with no one within 50 feet of them, will be issued a ticket for smoking? This will give cops something to do.
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American In Chicago
09:38 AM on 05/25/2011
Smoking is gross and it is bad for you. Second hand smoke is unhealthy and unpleasant as well. You have no innate need to be a smoker. If the majority support a law that bans you from smoking in certain public areas and you are unable to organize an opposing movement against it you must live with and obey the law.

Your victim status has been officially revoked. Put it out.
09:26 PM on 05/25/2011
Meat eating is gross and it is bad for you. Let's ban it. Peoples health will improve - not to mention a lot of animals health.

But I agree with the initial comment - it's not about improving health or safety..just like the TSA and other thugs, it's about getting americans to give up more and more rights. Anybody notice how many we've lost over the past few years?
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mariusvinchi
Saint Lucia is looking better and better every day
01:55 AM on 05/25/2011
I don't smoke, but this makes me want to go buy a pack and chain smoke the whole pack in the middle of Central Park!
11:59 PM on 05/24/2011
It would be a better idea to stop producing the cigarettes so they weren't available. You know that won't happen though - the government wants their tax money but then wants to put limitations on it too? That's like saying "I want my cake and eat it too" :( It's sad - cigarettes are more addictive than most drugs because of the toxins they "placed" in them.
11:16 PM on 05/24/2011
Are you crybabies serious? You're walking by someone in a park who is smoking........you have maybe 5 seconds of time near them and you think their smoking (OUTDOORS) is going to affect you? Get real. I'm so tired of this. Give em an inch and they take the whole football field. You act like these people are standing over you blowing smoke in your precious faces.
11:09 PM on 05/24/2011
So, they want to ban smoking essentially everywhere, but also put heavy restrictions on the sale of the new E-Cigs (which do not smell, and are light years less harmful than tobacco)... Oh yeah, and we are having serious talks about legalizing marijuana! -ps: annual deaths caused by alcohol?
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learninglife
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11:01 PM on 05/24/2011
This is ridiculous. Unless you make a point of sticking your face into a smoke cloud, you're not going to inhale cigarette smoke outdoors to any significant extent - even if you're sitting next to a smoker. As an ex-smoker, I'm fine with banning smoking indoors, where confined spaces trap the smoke - but outdoors? Please.
11:11 PM on 05/24/2011
Exactly! Sorry, cigarette smoke smells like crap, but so does granny perfume. You can't just outlaw everything that you find to be unpleasant to your own senses.
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seajewel
01:32 PM on 05/26/2011
Wow, are you ever clueless.
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learninglife
Be the change you want to see in the world
03:58 PM on 05/26/2011
You've certainly found an easy way to feel self-righteous.
10:00 PM on 05/24/2011
People keep yelling 'civil rights' , 'loss of freedoms', and the like but we're talking about SMOKING here, NOT seating assignments on a bus, voting or speech!! Jeeze! Smoking is not a civil right. It's an elective to something toxic to your breathing habits, something many others have not elected to do. Why should a smoker's accoutrement to normal breathing over ride the non smoker's un-assisted breathing? Smoker's are the ones adding something....its not like non smokers can take something away. On a lighter note: Im reminded of the guy who asks 'Mind if I smoke?', to which the other guy replies 'Mind if I fart?'
NancyY
carpe diem!
10:50 PM on 05/24/2011
Agreed!
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seajewel
01:34 PM on 05/26/2011
Love it! Only you would have to fart each time the person took a drag to equate the stink from smoke they are spewin.
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Iatros78
Science is the consensus of expert opinion
09:18 PM on 05/24/2011
Smoke-free parks, beaches, and other outdoor areas are already spreading to the heartland. Just this month the Cleveland City Council overwhelmingly voted to prohibit smoking in city parks and recreational areas. This was done at the urging of the Cleveland Clinic, one of the world's premier medical facitlities (http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2011/04/city_council_passes_healthy_cl.html)