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Paul Ryan Budget Proposal Voted Down By Senate [UPDATE]

Paul Ryan Budget Senate Vote

First Posted: 05/25/11 06:45 PM ET Updated: 07/25/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats wasted no time capitalizing on Tuesday's Medicare-fueled upset in a New York special election, holding a vote on the GOP budget plan Wednesday designed to put Republicans on record backing the controversial House budget plan.

The measure failed, 57 to 40, with five Republicans breaking ranks: Sens. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Rand Paul of Kentucky.

The spending plan, crafted by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), would turn Medicare into a private program and transform Medicaid into a state block-grant system.

The Ryan budget was used as a Democratic rallying cry in the New York race, which saw Kathy Hochul triumph in the heavily Republican district.

Just before the vote Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) took to the floor to portray the GOP budget in stark terms.

"The Republican plan to kill Medicare is a plan to make the rich richer and the sick sicker," Reid said. His speech repeatedly used the phrase, "Republican plan to kill Medicare."

The Senate also held three other budget votes demanded by the GOP -- on the the president's spending blueprint -- which the White House has already shifted away from -- and two offered by Republicans that cut even more deeply than Ryan's.

They all failed, with the White House's defunct plan going down 97 to 0.

Republicans lambasted the whole procedure as a political stunt.

"This isn't a serious attempt to try to fix the problem," said Sen. Mike Johanns. "This is all about messaging."

"Sadly, passage was never the intention here," the Nevada Republican added. "These votes, I guarantee, are all about political fodder for next year's election."

The Republican budget leader, Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, blamed New York's Chuck Schumer, the past head of the Democratic Senate campaign team, of orchestrating the evening's show.

"He's going to claim the Ryan budget as, 'an example of why we need to keep the Senate Democratic -- in order to counter House Republicans. We will point to this week and say, the Republicans tried to end Medicare but a Democratic majority stopped it,'" Sessions said.

"It's that simple," the Alabama Republican added. "A pure, political, open statement of raw politics. Where is the national interest?"

In fact, Democrats argued earlier that the national interest was in stopping Republicans -- and the vote in upstate New York proved it.

"Last night the people of America resoundingly spoke in rejecting the Republican plan to end Medicare as we know it," said Reid. "The No. 1, 2 and 3 issue in that congressional district, as it is all over the country, is destroying Medicare as we know it, putting insurance companies between patients and their physician."

Democrats suggested their argument would crush the GOP in 2012.

"American families understand what's going on here," said Washington Sen. Patty Murray. "So I'm confident that Senate Democrats will be able to play offense in races across the country by remaining focused on Republican effort to end Medicare."

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), one of Rep.-elect Hochul's earliest backers, said of the New York race: "It's a bellwether for elections to come."

Republicans blamed the stinging loss on the presence of an erratic third candidate and a poor performance by GOP nominee Jane Corwin. Privately, they acknowledged the Medicare issue hurt, an opinion born out by polls.

But they -- and some Democrats involved in the New York special election -- warned that Democrats shouldn't count their 2012 ballots before they're cast.

For one, Hochul turned out to be an excellent campaigner -- a factor that's hard to replicate.

"As much as Medicare was an issue... she has that certain likeability that, as a candidate, you either have or you don't have," said one Hochul campaigner. "You walk away from her feeling like this is a good person who is in it for the right reasons."

"Like Sarah Palin has a phony folksy moose-killing thing she does -- Hochul has that in a genuine, Buffalo sort of way," the Democrat told The Huffington Post.

Another to not read too much into Hochul's victory: Democrats had won two special elections in New York prior to being blown out by the GOP in the 2010 midterms.

But Reid predicted that this time is different.

"I think the American people are very certain that this Medicare radical change is not something they want," Reid said. "And I think that's why you have Republicans stumbling all over themselves. They were doing it [Tuesday]. But after this [New York] vote, it's a mad rush to stumble over themselves."

"Of course they're concerned," he added. "They should be."

UPDATED -- 7:45 p.m. Comments from Republicans, Democrats in New York, and the prediction from Reid were added to this report.

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WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats wasted no time capitalizing on Tuesday's Medicare-fueled upset in a New York special election, holding a vote on the GOP budget plan Wednesday designed to put Republican...
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05:01 AM on 05/29/2011
Paul Ryan answers voters 2010 concerns with a solution, a budget, specific proposals to get medicare solvent, the Demo-rat answer: hysteria.

Why? Demo-rats, like government, are the problem, not the solution.
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06:11 PM on 05/28/2011
Gutless and clueless Democrats have either not yet understood or are quite complacent with the GOP's "Starve the Beast" strategy developed under Reagan and named by Grover Norhquist.

The GOP tried for decades to away with SS and Medicare, along with all other social investments - by crafty use of an idyllic 1950's Norman Rockwell America, coupled by exploitation of fear and plenty of pseudo patriotic chest thumping they succeeded in getting a large number of voters to vote against their own self interest.

The Starve the Beast strategy which consists of breaking the treasury by military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy in order to eliminate social investment, has been a complete success - we are now deeply in debt.

Instead of the obvious, raise revenue for Governmental spending - Bush and crew simply spent all the surpluses left by Clinton and then spent money like drunken sailors, all of it borrowed from Social Security and Medicare funds.

Funny how the right always said that the poor pay no taxes - they consider Social Security and Medicare payments savings, not taxes - yet those moneys have been used to fund tax cuts for the wealthy; the middle class who put up the $$ id being told that there is none left.

With the Ryan plan which consists of giving more to those who don't need it and taking from the elderly, children and the poor, the GOP has shown its true objective: to destroy the middle class.
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steama
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03:08 PM on 05/28/2011
Sweet! The 26th Congressional District of New York special election results should act as the GOP's canary in a coal mine. Progressives are hoping the GOP is stupid enough to continue on the Ryan path. It is quite possible the row over deleting medicaid as we know it may have already handed the 2012 election to the Democrats.
Harpo1129
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08:48 AM on 05/28/2011
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Unfan .16 hours ago (4:09 PM) Oh, look, it's Mr. Dictionary­, come to explain to us what the noun "entitleme­nt" means: en·ti·tle·­ment    [en-tahy-­tl-muhnt] 3. the right to guaranteed benefits under a government program, as Social Security or unemployme­nt compensati­on.
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Oh look. It's Mr Prove My Point.

[en-tahy-­tl-muhnt] 3. the right to guaranteed benefits under a government program, as Social Security or unemployme­nt compensati­on.

A GUARANTEED BENIFIT. Keep ypur damn hands OFF my GUARANTEED BENIFIT !
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03:59 PM on 05/27/2011
http://socyberty.com/politics/paul-ryans-america/

great article with an insight at how the republican GOP is only interested in enriching corporate american at the expense of teh middle class. indepth look at paul ryans plan.

also reveals the truth about medicare and how it is infact, not going bankrupt.
03:17 PM on 05/27/2011
I would like to keep medicare also but how do we pay for it? More premium? Income ratio? Somebody needs a plan. Cut the waste in Washington. Many things in the budget not necessary.
Keep the essentials but get rid of the pork.
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
08:48 PM on 05/27/2011
Get rid of insurance companies. What is their purpose? They collect premiums, raised when bottom line requires it, denies coverage when it hurts profits. Why not use the Universal Health Care Act that is Non profit, has lower overhead, and CEO BONUSES can go back into the Medicare system to benefit the peoples bottom line. Drug cost should be reduced to the point that asprin does not cost $60. Give us more and honest info on systems that work in Canada, Germany, England
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
08:22 AM on 05/28/2011
All of the plans the Dems have suggested are "off the table" because they involve a very real revenue problem we have with regards to taxes. Even David Stockman - Reagan's budget guy - said supply side economics was a con job.
Harpo1129
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11:12 AM on 05/27/2011
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8 minutes ago (10:57 AM) My point: Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chafee were both chastised by the GOP for not towing the line, so they left the party. Where in this and my previous posts have I indicated "that every single member thought that this monstrosit­­y is actually GOOD for the American people" ?
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I never said that YOU said "that every single member thought that this monstrosit­­y is actually GOOD for the American people" ?

I was asking if you THOUGHT that "that every single member thought that this monstrosit­­y is actually GOOD for the American people" ?

My point being that there had to be at least SOME republican House members who didn't like this bill yet, they ALL voted for it. See? All republican house members walking in lockstep like lemmings into the sea and the American people be damned. That's what I meant.
10:36 AM on 05/27/2011
Sorry to disagree Alabama Jeff...but there definitely is national interest...and you will see come next election!
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tacevad
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09:10 AM on 05/27/2011
Paul Ryan's KILL Medicare AND give that money to the top 2% plan. If you have a republican senator who is not one of the 5 who voted against that despicable plan please tell all your friends and neighbors that their senator has taken a stand with this Ryan KILL Medicare plan.
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
08:52 PM on 05/27/2011
Becareful about thoses 5 Senators.....RPaul stated he did not vote for it because IT DIDNT CUT DEEP ENOUGH. Explanation Please Mr Paul.
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JimWind
Be still like a Mt, yet flow like a river. Lao Tzu
02:39 PM on 05/28/2011
Him and his osama bin laden loving father want to close nursing homes and have grandma and grandpa work till they die. Maybe we can have them pick crops and work the fields till they die. Sorry grandpa, grandma no more free ride for you!.
05:29 PM on 05/28/2011
Roadmap Ryan plan was to block grant an gut medicaid that alone would take many of our neediest seniors out of the system .

There dance on medicare is to make our grams an pa-paps get a secondary ins to cover all gaps . Most seniors bring in about 12,000 a yr. not enough to eat let alone a second ins. ?
07:54 AM on 05/27/2011
No surprise here. From the above article on the NY26 election:

"Republicans blamed the stinging loss on the presence of an erratic third candidate and a poor performance by GOP nominee Jane Corwin. Privately, they acknowledged the Medicare issue hurt, an opinion born out by polls."

1. Republicans blamed the loss-instead of conceeding defeat to the better candidate.
1.1 Dang Tea Party!
2. Republicans threw their candidate under the bus after the loss
2.1 Was she acting in that she gave a poor performance?
3. "They" acknowledge the Medicare issue in private though the public speaks out through the polls, well-in public.
3.1 Not a big fan of those who use "They" I want names-a GOP guy on the street? Or someone higher on the ladder.

Is anyone really surprised at the outcome?
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07:27 AM on 05/27/2011
Voters need to know how indivdual Senators or Representative vote. That is the only way to see who really helps you or hurts you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GeY7sQseg
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herrahsdad
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11:41 AM on 05/28/2011
And it's so easy to find out how each voted. But many don't get passed the Bumper Sticker. It really is a shame, isn't it?
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tigereon
07:12 AM on 05/27/2011
There is a simple reason that the Dems are winning this debate that has nothing to do with what is actually in the bill, and everything to do with effective marketing. The Dems have taken a page from the GOP playbook and have reversed the tables on them for the first time in a long time. Read my blog where I have broken it down and explained why and HOW the Dems are having the GOP's lunch on this issue.

http://thetop10.squarespace.com/the-politics-of-it-all/
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04:48 AM on 05/27/2011
Rand Paul voted against it???? I thought he was an extremist!
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
09:12 AM on 05/27/2011
it doesn't go far enough for Rand
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
08:55 PM on 05/27/2011
Exactly, he wants deeper cuts. Know your candidate....Is Social Security his idea of deeper cuts?
12:04 PM on 05/27/2011
"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a hero of the tea party movement, voted in opposition because the spending cuts did not go far enough in his opinion."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55721.html

Apparently it's not enough for Paul to hang some seniors out to dry (those of us currently under 55) it seems he would want ALL to feel the pain. Well, at least that's more fair... See how many repub seniors would be willing to vote repub if they know THEIR benefits are on the chopping block too!
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06:01 PM on 05/27/2011
It's everyone's ss, too-it's everyone that will lose as the poor pay more taxes to cover the huge tax cuts for the rich.
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whirlybird
Time's a-wastin'!
03:41 AM on 05/27/2011
So where in hell was the vote on The People's Budget put forth by the Progressive Caucus?? It was the only sane set of ideas in the vicinity, yet the administration didn't give it the time of day.
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cbwHouston
"Courage is the power to let go of the familiar!"
10:57 PM on 05/26/2011
In May 2009, Secretary Sebelius and Attorney General Holder [DOJ and HHS] announced the creation of the Health Care Fraud Prevention and Enforcement Action Team (HEAT). With the creation of the new HEAT team, fighting Medicare Fraud has become a Cabinet-level priority for both DOJ and HHS.

Democrats “gutting” $500-billion dollars out of Medicare and Medicaid… well, yes:

{{{{{Healthcare Fraud: $4 Billion Recovered}}}}}

{{{{{Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP Recoveries Highest Ever}}}}}

-January 25, 2011 - Howard Anderson, Executive Editor, HealthcareInfoSecurity.com

“…The federal government recovered $4 billion in fraudulent healthcare payments through civil and criminal penalties in fiscal 2010, the highest ever recovered in a single year, says Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Federal prosecutors opened [1,116 criminal healthcare fraud investigations] in 2010 and filed criminal charges in 488 cases involving 931 defendants. Some 726 defendants were convicted for healthcare fraud-related crimes during the year.

In addition to the criminal cases, more than $2.5 billion was recovered in civil cases under the False Claims Act….”
Secretary Sebelius and Attorney General Holder
Great Webb Links:

http://www.healthcareinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=3294
http://www.stopmedicarefraud.gov/heatsuccess/index.html
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JimWind
Be still like a Mt, yet flow like a river. Lao Tzu
02:45 PM on 05/28/2011
We have crook a governor in Floriddduuuhhh who got caught , and these "mugwumps" voted for him. PATHETIC. I m in the "business and I see fraud so often. It makes me sick.
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cbwHouston
"Courage is the power to let go of the familiar!"
06:56 PM on 05/28/2011
JimWind:

Well, here's a little factoid which may ease some of your "sickness" regarding Florida's reigning Governor Rick Scott: Your sentiments of Mr. Scott is reflected in his most recent polling numbers [a less-than one year in office gubernatorial record]. He's presently polling a continuously spiraling "29%!" While he wasn't charged with any malfeasance officially, the idea that so many Floridians would elect a man with so many felonies being attributed to his business dealings...well, yet remains shocking. You're spot-on. One should not be surprised by either his actions or those of the Republican-controlled Florida state congress. Enjoy the Memorial Day Hiatus. And if you pass an American Troop or know any Veterans, just give him a smile, handshake, or thank you... irrespective of one's military politics. Peace!
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cbwHouston
"Courage is the power to let go of the familiar!"
06:57 PM on 05/28/2011
JimWind:

And if you pass an American Troop or know any Veterans, just give "him or her" a smile, handshake, or thank you... irrespecti­ve of one's military politics. Peace!