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Wisconsin Teachers Outed After February Sick-Out To Support Labor Protest

First Posted: 05/25/11 03:25 PM ET Updated: 07/25/11 06:12 AM ET

Wisconsin Teachers Protest

A recent spate of Wisconsin public information requests forced school districts to determine whether citizens deserve to know if teachers who took sick days on Feb. 16 were really suffering from the flu, or instead were protesting Gov. Scott Walker's (R) policies.

The Wisconsin State Journal reported online Tuesday that conservative groups filed public records requests to uncover the names of the teachers who played hooky to protest legislation that drastically altered the laws governing their profession. The sick-out led to school closures, as teachers rallied en masse against Walker's proposal to end collective bargaining for civil employees, including teachers.

The Wisconsin law and subsequent protests contributed to igniting a national debate about the role of public employees -- and particularly work protections for teachers. While job security for teachers was traditionally pegged to senority, new laws are taking student test scores into consideration and limiting teachers' right to collectively bargain their salaries.

In Wisconsin, most districts complied with the information request, but not Madison, which cited concern for protecting both teacher morale and safety. And in response to arguments from local divisions of the state's largest teachers union, a judge blocked the release of names in the Holmen and La Crosse districts.

"The school districts should apply a balancing test appropriately," said Christopher Ahmuty, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Wisconsin chapter. "You don't release things willy-nilly, but there is a public interest -- even if it's from a Tea Party person -- in open government."

But Larry Gamble, a 48-year-old retired airline pilot and current Tea Party member of Franklin, Wis. who filed the public information requests, says he's not out to get anyone, and that it was never about the names, anyway.

Back in February, Gamble was disturbed by the number of teachers who skipped work on Feb. 16 to protest at the state Capitol. He told The Huffington Post he wondered whether Wisconsin's schools had enough substitute teachers to deal with such absenteeism.

So a few months ago, he filed about 50 public information requests, asking for the names of teachers who had ditched classes the day of the Madison protests. "I was looking to see at what point action by the teachers was causing the school district to break down," he said. He asked for a list of names of teachers absent that day who hadn't planned to take the day off. Without specific names, he said, any number of teachers the districts gave him would have been meaningless.

In late February, the responses started rolling in, often with more information than Gamble anticipated. A few districts claimed HIPAA privacy rules protected their attendance records, but Gamble said a lawyer told him HIPAA didn't extend that far.

Teacher's union spokeswoman Christine Brey told The Huffington Post the disclosure requests distract attention from the $800 million in state education cuts.

Gamble shot back, saying he has no plans to release the names for publication. They rest in his files while he moves on to newer projects.

"It's not me saying, let's find another way of messing with people," Gamble said. "Just the fact that I'm one of these rabble rousing conservative Tea Party guys, they assume the worst, that I had these nefarious reasons for doing this." He added, "I didn't think requesting something that's on the public record would cause so much turbulence on a big scale within the overarching teachers union in the state of Wisconsin."

Brey said the union, the Wisconsin Education Association Council, also opposed the requests because "there's no way to tell who was absent for which reason, whether they were at the capital or home sick."

But Gamble said his requests did help districts figure out who did what on February 16.

"The unintended consequence is that a lot of these districts that closed schools had to go back and look at the leave status that their employees were in and make them take appropriate leave for not being there," he said. "They couldn't claim sick leave if they took off and went to a protest. [The districts] required doctors' notes."

Madison teachers had already been told that if they could not provide a doctor's note, their pay would be docked for missing work Feb. 16, and the state is investigating doctors who allegedly wrote fake sick notes.

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bitsy79
Think Outside the FOX
01:11 PM on 05/28/2011
If it weren't for unions, there would BE no sick day benefits anywhere. Or 8 hour work days, Or 5 day work weeks. And give me a break. Seems that it's okay for others to use sick days when they're not sick, but to use one to fight for your rights is wrong. What a crock.

It disgusts me that they're pitting the middle class against itself. We ALL should be supporting each other. Whether you're in a union or not, you benefit from it. My sister works at WalMart , and to keep people from unionizing, they're throwing them some bones that you KNOW they wouldn't think of giving them otherwise. This is just one example. But once the GOP busts the unions, wait and see what everyone's work environments are like.

All this anti-union sentiment is mean spirited and hateful. Just like people who squak about giving medical services to children born to poor parents.

Any one who collects a regular paycheck instead of a dividend check who supports today's Republican agenda needs to have his head examined, if there's anything in there at all to examine.

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bitsy79
Think Outside the FOX
12:22 PM on 05/28/2011
Anyone who is a wage earner -- public or private sector -- who votes Republican is voting against his or her own interests. Period.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
07:15 AM on 05/30/2011
People in this country have confused themselves. Too many think they're capitalists. Unless you earn your money from money you're a worker, not a capitalist.
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Thanks4Watching
Daily dose of cynicism
05:13 PM on 05/27/2011
I find it amusing that the baggers in this thread are insisting that teachers be fired for using their sick days, guaranteed for them by their contracts, for exercising their first amendment rights to express grievances by the government.

Of course, it's a well-known fact that the Tea Party only likes the constitution when it is convenient for them, and believe that anyone who doesn't think exactly like they do should even be a U.S. citizen, let alone be protected by its constitution.
01:21 PM on 05/27/2011
The penalty the district had in place for taking a sick day but not being sick was loss of pay. If the district follows their policy, the teachers were not paid. Some posters demand the teachers be fired. If every employee of a private company was fired for calling in sick in order to do something else, there would be tons of new job openings...... No mention if Gamble made the same request of police, firefighters, or other public or private employment. I fail to see how not having a list of teachers' names would be meaningless if he only wanted to know numbers. He says now it was never the about the names, yet in a radio interview ( I assume it was him unless someone else also requested names) he said he asked for names because "the people deserve to know", yet refused to explain how "the people" would learn of the names. I think the media attention prevented him carrying out his original intention, for now.
(Gotta give the anti-teacher posters here an A in scapegoating. You've really mastered the lesson.)
01:05 PM on 05/27/2011
Let the firing begin!
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
02:11 PM on 05/27/2011
Let's start with you
12:31 AM on 05/27/2011
Gosh. I wonder if that airline pilot was able to retire at 48 because of the pay guaranteed him by a union? Wish I could retire at 48 and amuse myself harassing people who are taking risks to participate in democracy. Too bad I'll be working til I'm dead as the greedy pigs born ahead of me gnaw this country to the bone. Hope that airline pilot enjoys his pension the he somehow deserves more than a teacher who worked for 35 years, and the social security and medicare I will work to fund for another 35 years. Jerk.
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
Occupy this!
02:23 PM on 05/27/2011
Waiter !.... I'll have what he's having ............
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
08:53 PM on 05/26/2011
liberals exposed using the freedom of info act! shocking... they work best under the bark
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
02:11 PM on 05/27/2011
Can't formulate a coherent sentence can you?
07:52 AM on 05/28/2011
Some of my best friends were Liberal Arts Majors.On has become a Shift Captain.
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
01:58 AM on 06/03/2011
can't formulate a coherent thought can you?... it's ok.. .you're in the right party for it
Impaler
Ride to the sound of gunfire
08:17 PM on 05/26/2011
The teachers should be exposed then fired.
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
Occupy this!
02:24 PM on 05/27/2011
Only the females...exposed that is.
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Flaming Moderate Wacko
Comfort the afflicted & afflict the comfortable
03:43 PM on 05/29/2011
There are five rights guaranteed in the 1st Amendment. Religion. Speech. Press. Assembly. AND, petition the government for redress of grievance. And your take on it is to fire anyone for exercising their 1st Amendment rights. You don't believe in the Constitution much, do you?
04:51 PM on 05/26/2011
Wow, dude, retired at the age of 48. Must be nice not to have to work any more for a living. Oh but you put in your years and deserve that pension? So do the teachers.
04:34 PM on 05/26/2011
"Just the fact that I'm one of these rabble rousing conservative Tea Party guys, they assume the worst, that I had these nefarious reasons for doing this."

Well, duh.
REDSTATEREFUGEE
Texan by birth ; Californian by choice
04:28 PM on 05/26/2011
I found it ironic that a "retired airline pilot," who probably earned four to five times a public school teacher's salary during his work life, took it upon himself to invade the privacy of employee records. This is the mentality of some Tea Party members. It all reverts to their overarching philosophy, similar to that of the GOP, that as long as "I've got mine, Jack," they need not worry about their fellow working men and women.

I always marvel at this narrow-minded, Darwinian attitude, instead of wanting to help all employees earn a decent wage and be provided with basic employment rights. When teachers recently demonstrated here in California, the neo-cons came out of the woodwork to protest those who were losing their jobs and who also cared about the swelling classroom sizes and the deteriorating quality of education for public school children.
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
Occupy this!
02:25 PM on 05/27/2011
Public workers...public records. You are all for open government ...right ?
REDSTATEREFUGEE
Texan by birth ; Californian by choice
08:12 PM on 05/27/2011
Unless court-ordered, personnel records should be kept confidential. No one should be allowed to examine an employee's sick leave record or other employment documents just to make a political point....
VA Jill
Retired RN, Army mom. Bring the troops home!
04:25 PM on 05/26/2011
Damn. Joe McCarthy is alive and well in Wisconsin after all.
11:10 AM on 05/26/2011
Great Idea. Punish the teachers for exerciseing their right to assemble.

I understand they have a job to do but their job is being jeoperdized.

I fully support the labor unions. They lost a lot of ground and are now going to be put on the chopping block.
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Blacksheep1
Deprogramming the left, one fact at a time..
01:10 AM on 05/27/2011
They can assemble on their own time, not on the taxpayers time, that's the point.
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Cyn63
Every day I wake up is a great one
12:51 PM on 05/27/2011
So they can only have a right to free speech when you say so??
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
02:14 PM on 05/27/2011
Sick days are a part of the teacher's compensation package. To my knowledge there is no requirement that the individual provide proof of illness. Do you have any facts to the contrary?
10:36 AM on 05/26/2011
These teachers need to be dealt with. They seem to think they are above the law.
11:11 AM on 05/26/2011
How is exercizing the right to assemble above the law.
11:39 AM on 05/26/2011
I have a right to free speech too but if I steal something in the process I can still be arrested.
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Blacksheep1
Deprogramming the left, one fact at a time..
01:12 AM on 05/27/2011
People aren't critizizing them for assembling, they're criticizing them for assembling on the taxpayer's time, and dime.
08:22 AM on 05/26/2011
Stalin leads the way.