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Obama Won't Extend Bush Tax Cuts Again: Pledge To House Dems

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First Posted: 06/02/11 10:14 PM ET Updated: 08/02/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- In a meeting with House Democrats on Thursday, President Obama stressed that his administration would draw a firm line on taxes and revenues both in the deficit- and debt-reduction debates and in the buildup to the 2012 elections.

According to multiple meeting attendees, the president reiterated on several occasions that a deal to raise the country's debt ceiling would include revenue increases, even as Republican lawmakers insist that such a deal should be restricted to spending cuts and entitlement reforms.

"I've been very clear about revenues as a part of a balanced package, and I will continue to be," said Obama.

Underscoring his commitment, Obama noted taxes would be a defining area of contrast with Republicans on the campaign trail. He insisted that he would not compromise again on his position that the tax rates for the top earners be raised to pre-Bush levels.

"'Whatever we agree on, we are still going to have plenty to argue about in 2012,'" a senior administration official said, paraphrasing the president. "'I've said I'm not going to renew the tax cuts for the top two percent. We might agree on tax reform or simplification, but on the upper-income tax cuts we are just going to have to agree to disagree.'"

Two House Democrat attendees confirmed the substance of those remarks. One of those lawmakers, who agreed to speak about the event on condition of anonymity, said that members were "worried that the Obama Administration would cave [in debt ceiling negotiations] because Republicans were willing to default on our debt if they don’t get what they want."

The President responded by saying it was vital to have revenues as part of the mix, stressing that a budget can't be balanced on non-defense discretionary spending or the "backs of the most vulnerable." Obama added, according to the member, that, "he would not support extending the Bush tax cuts for the top two percent again no matter what hostages Republicans took."

That line in the sand was greeted warmly by attendees, many of whom were disillusioned with the administration's decision to cut a deal with congressional Republicans in December 2010 that allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to continue.

The politics now are notably different. As pressure has mounted for lawmakers to make major cuts, both to discretionary spending and entitlement programs, Democrats have turned to raising revenues as a partial budget substitute. As a Democratic source briefed on Thursday's meeting relayed, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was adamant that the party not cut Medicare benefits. A recent upset victory in New York's 26th district has seemingly provided the party with the type of template to win the tax-and-spend debate.

At the Thursday White House meeting, newly-minted member of Congress Kathy Hochul (D-N.Y.) received an enthusiastic welcome. Addressing both the caucus and the president, she explained how she won the office not just by defending Medicare, but by speaking out about tax equity.

"She talked about how she had been attacked on taxes but won anyway," said the senior administration official. "She said she would talk to small business owners about the fact that they pay a higher rate than General Electric."

The tone of the more than hour-long discussion, the official said, was positive, with the president ending the affair by referring to the party as a "family." Other attendees, however, said that the discussion was not without its points of friction.

As The Huffington Post's Michael McAuliff reported, Obama largely rebuffed requests from congressional Democrats to be more forceful in deficit and debt discussions with Republicans, noting that the office he holds requires a more delicate touch:

"He was a little testy with the [Rep. Henry] Waxman question. Essentially, Mr. Waxman was urging him to fight more," one legislator said. "The president reminded folks that he's the president sitting in that chair and he knows how to negotiate."

Obama also told the assembled Democrats not to count on more fiery rhetoric from the Oval Office.

"He said, 'There's a difference between me and a member of Congress,'" another lawmaker said, paraphrasing the president as saying: "When I say something the markets react, all of society reacts, other countries react. I've got to be careful with what I say. I can't just say it for brinkmanship. I've got to say it in a way so that I get what I want said, but I don't upset markets and so on."

"He said it like this," the Democrat elaborated: "'When Eric Cantor says something, Eric Cantor says something. When I say something, markets and countries and people react in a way where it could cause us more problems than we have now.'"

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WASHINGTON -- In a meeting with House Democrats on Thursday, President Obama stressed that his administration would draw a firm line on taxes and revenues both in the deficit- and debt-reduction debat...
WASHINGTON -- In a meeting with House Democrats on Thursday, President Obama stressed that his administration would draw a firm line on taxes and revenues both in the deficit- and debt-reduction debat...
 
 
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ReedYoung
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01:59 AM on 07/22/2011
I have a proposal to the "job creators."

Provide 4% or lower unemployment by next month, with nobody working less than full time who would like to work full time, then you can keep your tax cuts. If not, no exemptions for any gross annual income above $1 million, EVER AGAIN because you never created the jobs that Bush promised on your behalf when he gave you your tax cuts in the first place.
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ReedYoung
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01:55 AM on 07/22/2011
It's true, Eric Cantor can pretty much say any fool thing that flops into his head, because he's irrelevant.
02:53 PM on 07/20/2011
he is so bad for working fol;ks
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john whalen
07:57 PM on 07/06/2011
Wouldn't it be the Obama Tax cuts?
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louistruj
09:19 AM on 06/28/2011
Read about the increase of new billionaires in a downed economy (Forbes) and that doesn't include how many new millionaires and realize why we cannot compromise with Republicans
on tax cuts to the upper 2 % of the Super rich. We must let those tax cuts expire. The Rich got
richer off the labor's of the working person and the working consumer's and they now do very little to benefit the masses who made them rich. They took their profits and left us in shambles. The expiration of those tax cuts to the 2% Rich will help greatly to reduce the current deficet. They can afford to help cut the deficet more so than the unemployed masses struggling to survive.
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08:22 PM on 06/17/2011
If the tax write offs given to the ultra wealthy and investor class were tied to job growth in America they would all sing a different tune. The reason taxes were 90% back in the old days was because the write offs were directed at creating and maintaining jobs here. The Gatt revisions of 1994 threw the baby out with the bath water. You can sing the praise of either party, but the truth is they are both owned and managed by the same few.
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08:19 PM on 06/17/2011
The big Republicandemocrat lie. The people with money will move it out of the country. Until the Gatt revisions of 1994 it was very difficult for capital gleaned off the backs of American labor to be expatriated. The WTO and its owners have opened the door with the GATT revisions of 1994. In addition to the lax rules regarding actual money being expatriated, they opened the door for intellectual property and copy rights to be expatriated.This is how the jobs left and we have empty shells for our industrial areas. The two parties are managed and ruled by the same very few ultra wealthy international entities.
01:24 AM on 06/17/2011
rich people everywhere are packing up thier money and moving out of the usa , and taking our economy with them , sigh , thanks nobamma
01:22 AM on 06/17/2011
if i was wealthy i would fire everyone and retire , until I get government out of my pockets , heck I would gain more of the interest saved on payroll .
01:10 AM on 06/17/2011
the only thing that helped our country in the past was cutting spending , and taxes , stop stealing from the people , in the form of taxes and trust funds like s.s . Big brother deciding where our money is best spent is wrong. Stop supporting people that can work with our money . You will find a great economic turnaround like in our past history the only thing that ever worked.
08:23 AM on 06/15/2011
Its amusing watching the liberals turning into a frenzy when their messiah is cutting their jobs. Liberals command the lesser no value added fluff jobs that will be eliminated. Liberal arts, union members, and petty non essential work. While the conservatives command the essential jobs that have to be retained for survival. Obama + Michele are the token example of the liberal mindset. No credibility, educated via minority quotas , jobs from affirmitive action. Time to clean house and take out the garbage.
09:52 AM on 06/14/2011
I've seen Obama's "pledges" before. They are meaningless.
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08:10 PM on 06/10/2011
Obama doesn't need to continue Bushes tax cuts.The only ones who really benifited from it was the top 2% wealthies people in the country. My stands of living has decreased since President Bush was appointed to the presidency back in 2000.Obama needs to come up with his own repairing America tax policies that will renvent & repair the mistakes of billions of dollars going to millionairs/billionairs tax WELFARE QUEENS. That is all I have to say.
11:18 PM on 06/07/2011
I'm so happy that the president gave us his word that he won't give in to the Republicans on the tax extentions this time around. I was one of the disapointed ones last December when it seemed to me and many others that he gave in to them. The Republicans are very tricky devils you have to be on guard about everything they say or do, you have to respect your adversary never underestimate them but you certainly don't have to love them or trust them. I'm from the poor class not highly educated only a high school diploma but I understand somethings. Republicans are for the rich and wealthy and certainly not for people like me and my kind. I believe now in our president and the Democratic party that they will be the voice of the less fortunate people.Probably jobs should be the main focus of the President Obama at this time also help for small bussiness and fixing our infrastructur that would put many of our unemployed back to work.
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09:46 PM on 06/09/2011
You might take some solacce in this; a very under-reported fact about the Obama tax compromise: Just before the tax compromise was announced, Obama's original tax proposal, to allow the tax cuts to expire for high-income earners and to extend it for low income earners was defeated in the Senate on December 4, 2010, in a cloture vote (filibuster breaker), so it was doomed to never even come to the Senate floor for a vote. With time running out, the choices were pretty much to extend for everyone of allow everyone's taxes to go up, including working middle class; that would have been harmful to the economy (a reverse-stimulus in effect, taking $250 billion out of the economy, about $200 billion or more from the working middle class. Now, that is exactly what must happen at the end of 2012 unless (a) GOP are willing to accept compromise for the lower-income earners, or (b) Democrats are swept back in control of the House and the Senate. Obama did manage to reinstate an estate tax on the rich in that compromise, and a one-year payroll tax holiday for working Americans, so the compromise was not all that bad.
01:32 AM on 06/17/2011
Let me tell ya when nobamma first threatened to tax the rich the company I worked for froze wage increases then unfrozed it to .15 cents every 6 months , thats a direct result from Nobamma.I used to get a dollar every 6 months not only that they stopped hiring and cut hours . event though the sales where up! thanks a lot Nobamma!!!!
01:28 AM on 06/17/2011
lol small buisness is who he will be taxing , let the lay offs begin . wow you didn't think your comment through did ya ? lol
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11:18 PM on 06/07/2011
By the time wealthy tax cuts come for vote again Obama will likely be ending his final term if re-elected.... But lets also consider the other tax cuts the federal government and states pass out?

Its not just wealthy individual but also big business.... For instance in Oregon the State gives full tax cuts to Intel, Google and Facebook for simply having facilities here. The federal government subsidizes agriculture and also gives lots of cash to the aerospace and defense industry which cost tax payers.