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'Obedient Wives' Club: Malaysia Group Says Good Sex Is A Duty

Obedient Wives Club

EILEEN NG   06/ 5/11 06:50 AM ET   AP

RAWANG, Malaysia — As a new bride, 22-year-old Ummu Atirah believes she knows the secret to a blissful marriage: obey her husband and ensure he is sexually satisfied.

Ummu and some 800 other Muslim women in Malaysia are members of the "Obedient Wives Club" that is generating controversy in one of the most modern and progressive Muslim-majority nations, where many Muslim Malaysian women hold high posts in the government and corporate world.

The new club, launched Saturday, says it can cure social ills such as prostitution and divorce by teaching women to be submissive and keep their men happy in the bedroom.

"Islam compels us to be obedient to our husband. Whatever he says, I must follow. It is a sin if I don't obey and make him happy," said Ummu, who wore a yellow headscarf.

The club, founded by a fringe Islamic group known as Global Ikhwan, has been dismissed by politicians and activists as a throwback to Medieval times and an insult to modern women of Malaysia. But the group's activities, which previously included the setting up of a Polygamy Club, show that pockets of conservative Islamic ideas still thrive in Malaysia.

Groups such as Global Ikhwan are unlikely to gain much popularity beyond generating shock value. Still, there is concern that radical groups could garner support among other Muslims, who make up 60 percent of the 28 million population, and upset decades of carefully nurtured racial and religious harmony.

"Unfortunately even today, there are still many Muslim women who are ignorant of their rights or culturally inhibited to exercise their rights in full," said Shahrizat Abdul Jalil, a female Muslim minister in charge of family policy.

Despite the group's conservative Islamic background, Rohayah Mohamad, one of the founders of the club, openly talks about the virtues of marital sex even though most of her colleagues are shy about the topic.

"Sex is a taboo in Asian society. We have ignored it in our marriages but it's all down to sex. A good wife is a good sex worker to her husband. What is wrong with being a whore ... to your husband?" she said.

"This way, the family institution is protected and we can curb social ills," said Rohayah, the club's vice president who is also a trained physician.

She said wives must go beyond the traditional roles as good cooks or good mothers and learn to "obey, serve and entertain" their husbands to prevent them from straying or misbehaving.

Indirectly, "disobedient wives are the cause for upheaval in this world" because men are not happy at home and their minds and souls are disturbed, she said.

Authorities recently said Malaysia's divorce rate has doubled from 2002 to 2009 with higher rates among Malay Muslims.

"When husbands come home, wives do not welcome their husbands with warm alluring smiles and sexy dressing ... That is the reality today," she said.

The Global Ikhwan group is an offshoot of former members of the Al-Arqam sect outlawed in 1994 after its teachings were found to have deviated from Islam. It is funded by the group's restaurants, grocery stores, poultry and other businesses abroad.

Most of the 800 women who are members of the new club, including Ummu the new bride, also belong to Al-Arqam.

Expectedly, the club has faced intense criticism.

Some Malaysians started a Facebook page called "We do not want sexist nonsense from Global Ikhwan."

One Muslim man, Amirul Aftar, wrote: "I do not want a wife to submit to my every beck and call. I want a wife who understands me ... we are not your masters, we are your equal."

Women's group, Sisters in Islam, said Islam advocates marriages based on mutual cooperation and respect. It said domestic violence happens regardless of women's behavior.

"Communication, not submission, is vital to sustain any healthy relationship," it said.

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RAWANG, Malaysia — As a new bride, 22-year-old Ummu Atirah believes she knows the secret to a blissful marriage: obey her husband and ensure he is sexually satisfied. Ummu and some 800 other Mu...
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02:13 PM on 07/08/2011
I guess this can be justified if the quote continues as " A good husband is one who can earn more then his wife can spend. What is wrong with being an ATM with unlimited cash flow... to your wife?
02:15 AM on 06/10/2011
I'm Indonesian and in last days, a Obedient Wives Club branch will be developing in Indonesia. I hate this, like I hate a poligamy club. It's made a controversial issue. The National Commission on Violence against women said this is a violation of women because women have the right to be independent and to be respected as human beings and Indonesian Uelama Council (MUI) said it's forbiden or haram. And I see this as a new style of slavery, and sadly, they do this in the name of religion.If we read the Koran and the hadits, it must consider the socio-cultural conditions when it derived. We can not implemented it like in the 17th century, but must giving the new interpretation of basic values ​​such as justice, compassion and equality of men and women in context of the 21st century. And we never discuss what kind of husband that must be followed. Though Muhammad has always said is the best husband who treats his wife well.
06:30 PM on 06/08/2011
If you think the "Obedient Wives Club" as a philosophy only encompasses Islam, you're wrong. It's a deeply entrenched idea in many strongly identifying Christian women in America, too.

There's no such thing as "sexual repression" - there are really only different modes of expressed sexual identity. For many men, and a growing number of women, Islam and Christianity are already tools used to synthesize and obfuscate the "naughty/holy" "angel/temptress" "good girl/bad girl" dichotomies to increase their sexual experience.

So when someone says "I'm waiting until I'm married," that person is really just seeking a higher level of sexual gratification upon fulfillment of a giant role-playing game they have invented for themselves.
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06:16 PM on 06/08/2011
What is the common factor between a terrorist and a sex worker?
01:52 PM on 06/21/2011
yea? what?
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Howard53545
05:30 AM on 06/08/2011
Give him good booty and the marriage will last, not bad advice.
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
03:28 AM on 06/08/2011
This is all very said, but hardly limited to Islam. Christianity and Judaism have a very similar perspective regarding women's rights and value, as many here have stated. The difference is that Islam, as the new kid on the block, still needs to be beaten into secular submission, just as its cousins have been.

That said, Islam surely trumps the other two at least when it comes to marital sex, by allowing for great, basically unrestricted sex within a marriage. The duty to sexually please the partner goes for women AND men.
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Retrofuturistic
see things as they really are
04:27 PM on 06/07/2011
"Obey, serve, and entertain." Wow, these men have a pretty good setup, don't they? And they claim it's what "God" wants....

The problem is that this mindset is not peculiar to Islam; it permeates our culture also. This is what most men expect, to be obeyed and served and serviced; they conditioned to believe it's their due.
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Rus Viking
"The opposite of courage, is conformity."
06:34 PM on 06/07/2011
Really?

How and where does this 'Conditioning' take place? And by whom?
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carmenalex
!Mamá caliente humanista!
07:32 PM on 06/07/2011
Ever see Disney's The Little Mermaid...you know...the one where the chick gives up her VOICE to get a man?
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loOranks
I am the master of my fate; captain of my soul
04:23 AM on 06/08/2011
Maybe you should change the sort of men around you.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
03:40 PM on 06/07/2011
If you think Muslim customs are appalling, try reading the Old Testament.  Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all cut from the same cloth of barbaric customs supposedly promulgated by God.
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Rus Viking
"The opposite of courage, is conformity."
06:35 PM on 06/07/2011
That's why it's called the 'OLD' Testament.
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loOranks
I am the master of my fate; captain of my soul
04:24 AM on 06/08/2011
And your point being?
03:34 PM on 06/07/2011
Good sex will NOT keep these men faithful. Their egos, perversions, and lack of any kind of self control will be their undoing.
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07:32 AM on 06/08/2011
Sex in the religion of peace.

KUWAIT: Female activist calls for legalizing sex slavery

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=NzQ3NzY0MzE%3D

A female political activist and former parliamentary candidate has recommended the introduction of legislation to legalize the provision of enslaved female concubines for Muslim men in Kuwait in a bid, she says, to protect those men from committing adultery or corruption.
04:59 AM on 07/07/2011
not all people are faithful...
11:13 AM on 06/07/2011
I know there are a lot of you racist privileged western women aghast at the whole idea that those "inferior" third worlders are happier in their marriages than you are. I also know you won't ever come out and admit it either. So instead to project your anger in a number of other ways, and I can't help but laugh. Flail in exasperation all you want. Nice career you have there...whoop-dee-do. Your Malaysian counterpart (and her culture) is having more kids than you. Her children will come to know and reject your culture, because no matter what you bleat in its defense, that culture will still be seen as part and parcel with militaristic imperialism. Malaysians are not stupid, and they'll see right through it. In 50 years, your "liberated, strong, intelligent, independent" kind will be a historical footnote, like the Neanderthals.
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Chester Erickson
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12:57 PM on 06/07/2011
How can you state this as a fact after reading the article? This is no different than the clubs that have been springing up in the U.S. for decades, and those groups didn't make Malaysian women with careers turn into historical footnotes.

Do you have a crystal ball? Can I borrow it?
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Retrofuturistic
see things as they really are
04:35 PM on 06/07/2011
On the other hand, maybe your unliberated, unread, and bigoted misogyny will be an historical footnote....
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05:13 AM on 06/07/2011
There are several hadith in which Muhammad is asked for his opinion on how women should be raped following their capture. This pertains to an episode in which his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant. Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.%u201D (Bukhari 34:432)

As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.
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jdl51
01:14 PM on 06/07/2011
I'm sure God would agree. If you're going to rape a woman, do it right. It's all God's will.
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04:43 AM on 06/07/2011
Some people think that this is specific to a certain group. The problem is within the religion of peace itself.

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty."

Ishaq 969 - "Men were to lay injunctions on women lightly, for they were prisoners of men and had no control over their persons." - This same text also justifies beating women for flirting.

Tabari Vol 9, Number 1754 - "Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves." From Muhammad's 'Farewell Sermon'.
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Chester Erickson
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01:07 PM on 06/07/2011
I'm hoping you aren't a Christian, because the treatment of captured women was just as bad in the Bible. I have to get to work now, but I can pull the bible quotes later if you don't believe me.

Men were allowed to beat their slaves (male and female) but not to the point of killing them.

This is all in the Bible, you can go read it in the OT. I've heard Christians argue that stuff in the NT makes all of the OT stuff invalid, but Christians were the ones who decided to keep it in their religious text, so they must have thought it had some value.

Heck, even in the NT, Paul wrote that women were to submit to their husbands and basically sit down and shut up.
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07:30 AM on 06/08/2011
They are all bad and that is the point. We shouldn't give the religion of peace a break just because another religion allows it. I write to expose religion not protect it.
moldndecay
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06:19 PM on 06/07/2011
"If however the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death..." Deuteronomy 22:13-21

Yeah, religion is great.
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07:29 AM on 06/08/2011
It is about time to expose all religious stupidity.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
12:15 AM on 06/07/2011
Adulterers: The most maligned of all groups... They should form a rights group... They need love too...
10:09 PM on 06/06/2011
This article just makes me sad for some of the women. Others don't seem to mind being a doormat or blamed for their husband's infidelity.
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08:22 PM on 06/06/2011
"Islam compels us to be obedient to our husband. Whatever he says, I must follow. It is a sin if I don't obey and make him happy," said Ummu, who wore a yellow headscarf.

So a book written by man, says women should obey him no matter what, that the earth is the center of the universe and that man was created in Gods image. Yet no one finds this troubling.
01:50 AM on 06/07/2011
I think you're jumbling up several different religious views into one post. Basically, you are confusing Biblical scripture with Qur'nic scripture, as Islam does not say that man was created in God's image, nor that the earth is the center of the universe. And I don't think you should take your troubled sex life out on the Malaysian women.
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loOranks
I am the master of my fate; captain of my soul
04:27 AM on 06/08/2011
A lot of words to try and lower Puzzlr post, but yet not a single one about the statement made by Ummu?
You're not troubled by a 21st century woman claiming that her sole purpose in life is to "be obedient to our husband. Whatever he says, I must follow. It is a sin if I don't obey and make him happy"?