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Foreclosure Fraud Price Tag: $20 Billion

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First Posted: 06/06/11 10:52 PM ET Updated: 08/06/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- The nation's largest mortgage companies are operating on the assumption that they will have to pay as much as $20 billion to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse, an amount four times what they had originally proposed, the top federal official overseeing the discussions told state officials Monday, according to people who participated in the conversation.

Associate U.S. Attorney General Tom Perrelli told a bipartisan group of state attorneys general during a conference call that he believes the banks have accepted the realization that a wide-ranging settlement to the months-long probes will cost them much more than the $5 billion offer they floated last month, according to officials with direct knowledge of the call. Perrelli said he's basing his belief on his recent conversations with representatives of the five targeted firms: Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial.

Three unresolved issues remain, these people said. State and federal officials have not agreed on the scope of banks' release from liability that would accompany such a deal; negotiators continue to hammer out how much of the money pot will be split between restructuring borrowers' mortgages and bank fines, and officials are not yet near an agreement on how the coalition of state and federal government agencies will monitor and enforce bank behavior in the wake of a settlement agreement.

The settlement talks are the result of state and federal investigations launched last autumn after widespread reports that the five largest mortgage handlers illegally seized the homes of an unknown number of homeowners and improperly accelerated foreclosure proceedings by failing to amass required paperwork, in some cases allegedly lying about it to local judges. Over the past couple months, government officials have been in discussions with the banks to resolve claims of past abuses and set new standards to govern bank dealings with distressed homeowners.

The banks seek a quick resolution, according to sources who have participated in settlement talks, as falling home prices, a continuing high rate of delinquent borrowers, stagnant home sales, rising unemployment and slower economic growth batters bank stocks. Shares of Bank of America, the largest mortgage servicer, hit a two-year low Monday. Citigroup fell more than four percent. The 24-company KBW Bank Index has fallen nearly 11 percent over the past three months.

Top officials in the Obama administration, like Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, have said they want a quick settlement, too. Bank regulator Sheila Bair, the chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, told a Senate panel last month that a settlement must be reached due to "significant" damages the banks face from "flawed mortgage banking processes [that] have potentially infected millions of foreclosures."

The industry could be reeling for years, Bair warned.

Many of the states, though, aren't in such a hurry.

New York’s top law enforcer, Eric Schneiderman, wants to conduct a complete investigation into all facets of mortgage banking, from fraudulent lending to defective securitization practices to faulty foreclosure documents and illegal home seizures. Delaware recently sent Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems Inc., which runs an electronic registry of mortgages, a subpoena demanding answers to 75 questions.

Other states are combing through court filings and pulling out files infected by so-called "robo-signing" and potentially-fraudulent claims made by banks, while some are probing the role played by a unit of Lender Processing Services, a firm used by the biggest mortgage companies in foreclosure proceedings.

Those angling for either a more thorough investigation or a more punishing set of penalties also have the results of a set of confidential federal audits in their back pocket.

The reports accuse Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial of defrauding taxpayers in their handling of foreclosures on homes purchased with government-backed loans, The Huffington Post first reported last month.

The five separate investigations, conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general, conclude that the firms violated the False Claims Act, a Civil War-era law crafted as a weapon against firms that swindle the government.

The federal watchdog office referred its findings to the Department of Justice, which is deciding whether to file charges. The False Claims Act allows the government to recover damages worth three times the actual harm.

Jessica Smith, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, declined to comment.

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Shahien Nasiripour is a senior business reporter for The Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail; bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed; follow him on Twitter; friend him on Facebook; become a fan; and/or get e-mail alerts when he reports the latest news. He can be reached at 917-267-2335.

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WASHINGTON -- The nation's largest mortgage companies are operating on the assumption that they will have to pay as much as $20 billion to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse, an amount fou...
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Miss Muffett 09:24 AM on 06/07/2011
Since day 1 of the housing crisis, I've been saying that mandatory principal reductions were the only way to correct the downward spiral in real estate. There are really only two ways to fix this problem - either the entire middle class receives mandatory, substantial wage increases, or we reassess everyone's mortgage as per the current fair market value. Here's why: young couples cannot afford to buy a  Read More...
05:13 PM on 06/13/2011
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99er2049er
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09:48 PM on 06/09/2011
I just got my second notice from Fannie Mae who took over my mortgage that I have 3 days to vacate if I want to avoid legal costs. I know I have more time than this. I live in California and am looking for a new place to rent, but everyone has been asking for a credit check, so I really have to jump through hoops with a bankruptcy and foreclosure on my record. I need more time to find someone who will rent to me and Fannie Mae is pressuring to throw me out. I asked them if I could rent and they said no.

I hate these dirt bags.
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Lolie Culley
04:02 PM on 06/10/2011
You're not alone, there were more than 149,000 bankruptcy filings last May alone just to stay a little longer in their homes. I think this is what the government and banks plans all along to Bankrupt American citizens.
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04:09 PM on 06/10/2011
Yeah, I worked long and hard hours all my life, and this is my reward. If the republicans have their way, I will lose social security and medicare when i retire too.
05:17 PM on 06/09/2011
We have come across multiple "ROBO SIGNERS" on mortgage documents with all types of banks. Homeowners are now being made more aware of what actually happened with their paperwork and now banks are backed into a corner! If you have a mortgage with one of the banks listed below it's possible your entitled for loan modification or money damages because banks don't want their dirty laundry on the street! The listed banks have signed consent orders in which they must produce original INK signed documents on all mortgages (which they don't have).

Bank of America / Aurora Bank / Everbank / One West Bank / Sovereign Bank / JP Morgan Chase / Wells Fargo / Citi Group / Ally Financial / HSBC / PNC Financial / US Bancorp / MET Life / Sun Trust /Deutsche Bank / IndyMac / Countrywide

To find out whether your eligible contact us visit our website "http://nationwide-propertysolutions.com" OR call direct at 855-692-2356 - LENNY
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kamact
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09:45 PM on 06/08/2011
And thousands of the TBTF banksters should be in jail and their assets seized
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BonnieDoon
Fool me once...
01:13 PM on 06/08/2011
Some excellent supplemental info from Yves Smith, today, at Naked Capitalism:

“Embarrassingly Lame Federal/”50″ State Attorneys General Mortgage Negotiations Continue”

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/06/embarrassingly-lame-federal50-state-attorneys-general-mortgage-negotiations-continue.html


“I’m having trouble understanding why anyone is still treating the Federal/state attorney general mortgage “settlement” negotiations as anything other that a fiasco. The more news reports come out, the more the parties aligned against the banks look like fools.”

“The latest confirmation comes in an article by Shahien Nasiripour in the Huffington Post that a member of the Department of Justice briefed state attorneys general and reported that the biggest banks in the servicing business had resigned themselves to paying $20 billion:


Sounds impressive, right? It’s not.”

“You don’t negotiate price without negotiating terms, and yet this exactly what is happening. The dollar figure utterly meaningless unless you know what is being traded off against it. A bigger dollar figure means the banks will demand a broader waiver against liability,…”
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04:00 PM on 06/08/2011
our republican attorney general is very top heavey in bank donations not sure how serious he is to help the homeowners
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
02:08 AM on 06/08/2011
not a bad deal. 20 billion in fines, and at least 1 trillion in profit. that includes tax payer hand outs and money fraudulently obtained from customers. Where can I sign up for a deal like that?
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Lolie Culley
08:12 PM on 06/07/2011
Banks and Trustees are working together to evict people out of their homes especially if the loan was guaranteed by the government (Freddie and Fannie). One Trustee (Trustee Corps/MTC) that has blood in their hands is Malcom and Cisneros. Cisneros used to be the Housing Secretary during the Clinton Administartion. They are the one evicting people as fast as they could especially in California, Nevada, and Arizona. They are making big money out of peoples misery. Bring down Malcomn and Cisneros down. The DOJ and AG's should investigate these scumbs.
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cadawa
04:13 PM on 06/07/2011
Peanuts. Those guys stole a couple of trillion.
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
02:09 AM on 06/08/2011
and they wont have to admit to any guilt, so they can keep on committing fraud and will make up that 20 billion in a couple months at the most.
04:00 PM on 06/07/2011
We can all do something positive here by sending this pdf of Register of Deeds John L. O'Brien's Press Release to your own local Recorder’s Office. Demand that they stop accepting fraudulent documents for recording or else be shown as complicit in the fraud scheme and in dereliction of their duties. http://www.salemdeeds.com/pdf/ROBOPress.pdf

Register O’Brien said, “Knowing what I now know, it would be a dereliction of my duties as the keeper of the records to record these documents and any other documents that contain questionable signatures. To do so, would make me a willing participant in a continuing scheme which has corrupted the chain of title of thousands of Essex County property owners. I have decided to put a stop to this reckless behavior and hold these lenders and their agents accountable for the authenticity of what they are attempting to record in my Registry. I do not believe this to be unreasonable.”
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WilliamTheV
I drank what? -Socrates
03:12 PM on 06/07/2011
Return to the regulations and standards of the mid nineties
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BonnieDoon
Fool me once...
03:08 PM on 06/07/2011
Excellent article at Credit Slips by Adam Levitin, Associate Professor at Georgetown Law citing an article by Abigail Field at Fortune:

“About Those Notes...Evidence of Securitization Fail”
http://www.creditslips.org/creditslips/2011/06/about-those-notesevidence-of-securitization-fail.html

“At Bank of America, more incomplete mortgage docs raise more questions”
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/03/at-bank-of-america-more-incomplete-mortgage-docs-and-more-questions/


“Since October, I've been talking until I turned blue in the face about robosigning being the tip of the iceberg with mortgage problems and that the real issue was chain of title. The real goal in the depositions that uncovered the robosigning was exposing the backdating of mortgage endorsement. That they did--the notaries' whose seals were on the documents didn't have their commissions when the assignments supposedly took place.”

“Lurking behind this is the mother of securitization fail issues - the potential failure to transfer the mortgage notes into the securitization trusts.”

“When the securitization fail issue was getting attention last fall, one thing that was sorely lacking from the discussion was empirical evidence. “

“Abigail Field at Fortune has actually gone and done this. Incidentally, this is what federal bank regulators were supposed to do--go and look at the actual notes for foreclosure filings. Amazing how one intrepid journalist was able to accomplish much more than a beavy of bank examiners. And Field finds that there are real problems with the mortgage files.”
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04:36 PM on 06/07/2011
agreed- i just noticed that in 2007 when the fbi reported sec fraud investigation with countrywide they were approved to switch from the OCC to the office of thrift at the same time! to have lower regulations. i dont understand how the government allowed this? i have some ideas......
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
02:11 AM on 06/08/2011
and whatever happened to that Boehner type tanned feller who ran Countrywide? How many years did he get in jail?
02:38 PM on 06/07/2011
How about investigations into financial relationships between banks and the foreclosure lawyers? Minutes after the 30 day deadline with wells, notice of default and refusal of payment would happen. Thousands later we would be back in good standing, just a little poorer. I wonder how much one party was kicking back to the other? Someone had to be getting "rewarded" for such prompt actions of default.

Are the appraisers going to be investigated? When a house was overpriced by thousands based on quality, location, and market, and yet the loan was issued for full amount, who is ending up with that liability? A lot of first time buyers that raised no questions because they knew they could not afford the house in the first place, or the banks and builders profiting off of a corrupt industry? The housing market reminded me of the tulip bulb craze.

Even though the housing industry was the mainstay of the economy for years of the previous administration, who gets left holding the bag for irresponsible and fraudulent extension of credit to parties that could not begin to qualify for the loans? Do the taxpayers have to pay the bill or do the bankers have to stand behind their greed? Or to put it a bit clearer. Who would have given a loan to a couple of newlyweds with low incomes for $400,000? No one if they were going to be on the hook for the loan.
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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
04:42 PM on 06/07/2011
If they knew they couldn't afford the house when they got the mortgage then they're just as responsible as the bank or broker that offered it to them. The entire housing market was overpriced and the estimates weren't based on the market as a whole. I gather that they were based on a comparison with comparable houses within that or a comparable area.

The bankers should have to stand behind any loan that they made under fraudulent terms or in which they broke the law (including the laws on documentation and fact checking). The homeowner has to be responsible for all the ones that are legally sound, including the ones where the homeowner was unaware that the market was overpriced since the onus is on them to do proper research before entering into any contract and apparently most didn't.
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BonnieDoon
Fool me once...
02:23 PM on 06/07/2011
MERS - the 800 pound elephant in the mix.

“At the center of the securitization process is a company which has largely flown under the radar until recently, called Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc. MERS was created and is owned by some of the largest lenders in the country including Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Wells Fargo, Citi Mortgage, Chase, HSBC and Countrywide (now Bank America). The company was created to simplify the securitization of mortgages by acting as the mortgagee of record for lenders. This capability facilitated securitization by allowing mortgages to change hands without the necessity of recording each transfer.”

“Another feature that MERS provided was total anonymity for the players while mortgages were securitized, sliced, and diced into complex pools which were then resold to insurance companies and the like. This anonymity enabled the several under-handed activities including cheating local governments out of their recording fees, mortgage fraud, and predatory lending because lenders could not be identified.”

“As one bankruptcy attorney after another has discovered, this anonymity provided by MERS is now working against the lenders in court. In order for these lenders to foreclose, the chain of title must be established. The position of MERS in the chain of title, acting as a nominee for the actual owner, breaks that chain and prevents the lender from foreclosing.”


From an article by Attorney Ron Chini, California:
http://www.foreclosurelawfirms.com/resources/foreclosure/foreclosure-defense/avoid-foreclosure-mers-title.htm
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04:38 PM on 06/07/2011
i dont understand why all the county clerks across the country are not investigating this. ? this was fraud in filing and avoided millions in revenue to their counties. they seem to have an elected duty to investigate this?
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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
04:57 PM on 06/07/2011
You say it's working against them in court, however per Wikipedia (which may very well be out of date on listing the cases), there's only been one case that went against MERS, In re Agard (U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of New York), and in every other case MERS was allowed to proceed as the mortgagee of record. If anything the biggest thing working against MERS is the fact that state and federal laws are so out of date when it comes to electronic recording and transfer of mortgages.

What really needs to happen is that all states need to keep an electronic record of all mortgages and to be legally valid all transfers of the mortgage would have to be recorded in it.

Of course there's two problems with that. One, the hardliners wouldn't like it because banks would still be able to bundle mortgages and sell them, they'd just have to have a holding company hold the actual mortgage for the records, similar to what they should have done with the physical records. Second, it would costs states money, which right now they are loathe to agree to.
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zetacplus
Conservatism has failed America
02:08 PM on 06/07/2011
$20 billion's nothing compared to the fraud Wall St has played upon the American taxpayer.
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04:39 PM on 06/07/2011
its probalbly 20 billion that was given to them in one of the bailout packages and set aside until now.
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AlsoSarah
Medicare for all
02:04 PM on 06/07/2011
And they sure don't want Warren in the Consumer Protection Agency!