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Gay Orthodox Jews See Growing Acceptance In Israel

Gay Orthodox Jews

First Posted: 06/13/2011 7:02 pm Updated: 08/13/2011 5:12 am

By Michele Chabin
c. 2011 Religion News Service

TEL AVIV, Israel (RNS) Though never short on spectacle, this year's annual gay pride festival was even more colorful with a parade float, sponsored by Google, representing the country's religious gay and lesbian communities.

Dressed in shorts and T-shirts bearing the words "Religious Pride Community," the 20- and 30-somethings who accompanied the float on Friday (June 10) smiled proudly if even a bit self-consciously when onlookers did a double take or shouted, "Good for you!"

While Israeli law forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation in most areas of life, and gay soldiers can serve openly in the military, the public at large is only beginning to accept the notion that observant Jews can be both openly religious and openly gay.

Religious Jews who are gay or lesbian have traditionally hidden their sexual orientation from their rabbis and others because traditional interpretations of the Torah consider same-gender sexuality an "abomination."

Within Orthodox communities, the Modern Orthodox are much more open-minded than the ultra-Orthodox, many of whom still view homosexuality as an unspeakable sin.

The irony, activists say, is that gay religious Jews don't just remain in the closet; many simply stop living a religious life altogether.

"Many religious people who realize they're gay feel rejected by the society they grew up in and decide to become secular," explained Talya Lev, a spokeswoman for Bat Kol, an Israeli-based Orthodox lesbian organization. "Yet there is a growing number of gay religious people for whom religion is an integral part of who they are, and they won't give it up."

Activists say there are thousands of religious gays and lesbians in Israel, the majority of them still in the closet. But in the past five or six years, she said, more have summoned the courage to "come out" as Orthodox and gay.

"They're no longer running away, and some communities are even embracing them," she said.

A few mainstream Jewish institutions are also reaching out. Last year, the U.S.-based ROI Community of Young Jewish Innovators gave Bat Kol a $10,000 grant to develop an English-language website that is now accessible to observant lesbians.

While conceding that "there's still a long way to go," Lev said Orthodox Jews are at least "beginning to acknowledge that (we) exist."

Part of the shift can be traced to "Trembling Before God," a groundbreaking 2001 documentary that followed American and Israeli Orthodox gays and lesbians as they struggled to reconcile their religion and sexuality.

Daniel Jonas, spokesman of Havruta, an Orthodox gay men's association that also belongs to the Religious Pride Community coalition, said the film "had a strong impact on religious society."

"Some of those interviewed were kicked out of their homes, their communities, committed suicide," he said, putting the religious community's exile of gays and lesbians on full display.

He also credited -- of all things -- Israel's 2005 withdrawal from the Gaza Strip for changing attitudes. He said many Orthodox Jews began to question their faith after the Israeli military forcibly uprooted religious settlers from Gaza, despite rabbis' assurances that God would not let this happen.

"Suddenly, perhaps for the first time, people realized they cannot put all their trust in the leadership of their rabbis," he said. "They had to think for themselves. It gave space for the individual in modern Orthodox society."

Even so, many Orthodox Jews and institutions stick with tradition, believing that homosexuality is a preference, not an orientation, that can be unlearned with the help of "conversion" therapy.

Gidi Grunberg's father told a family therapist that his son was ill.

"The therapist asked my father whether he could change his height or his eye color. When he said 'no,' the therapist said, 'That's how it is with being homosexual. Your son is who he is."'

As a teenager, Grunberg said he quit his religious youth group "because I knew they wouldn't accept me if I came out of the closet." Today, he coordinates three groups for Orthodox gay and lesbian teens and young adults that draw about 100 participants to "discreet" locations.

"It's a place where they can be themselves," Grunberg said, "both religious and homosexual."

Lev, the lesbian activist, remains convinced that familiarity will breed acceptance, however slowly. As religious Jews realize that gays "are not strangers, but are in fact their friends, students, neighbors, and children," people will be "more willing to accept the person, even if they have issues with the act of homosexuality itself."

That's how it's been for Daniel Jonas, a spokesman for Havruta, the gay men's Orthodox group, who lives in a quiet Jerusalem neighborhood with his partner, Uri Erman.

"Our neighbors figured out that we're gay and they're cordial," said Jonas, who prays every day. "But I think the religious girls downstairs are still trying to come to grips with it."

Erman, who is no longer Orthodox, and Jonas keep a kosher home and they attend traditional Shabbat-eve dinners together at their Orthodox parents' homes. While they could find more acceptance in more secular Tel Aviv, they plan to stay in conservative Jerusalem.

"It would be very easy to leave," Jonas said, "but I love this city and feel committed to fight to make it a more tolerant place."

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By Michele Chabin c. 2011 Religion News Service TEL AVIV, Israel (RNS) Though never short on spectacle, this year's annual gay pride festival was even more colorful with a parade float, sponsored ...
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06:58 PM on 07/30/2011
The Torah lists homosexualiy as an abomination.

Why didn't the Muslims and Jews join ranks to protest the abomination in the King's own courtyard?
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ZENNEPHI
04:14 PM on 07/22/2011
Joyous to see the Orthodox Jew actualizing "Real" in [ISREAL].
09:30 PM on 06/23/2011
Most Jews do not read much of the Bible; if they would only read it, at least the first book regarding creation, they would probably be able to find themselves understanding God's intentions for men and women. While reading God's plan for humans, pray for understanding. God will not love you less if you displease Him. But you can not come to the Father except through God's Son. God wants everyone to come to Him. Can't you feel that empty longing in your heart? That is God calling you.
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Help me Rhonda......
03:42 PM on 07/15/2011
this is the best post i have read in a few days. Ecce Homo.
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yoyo1900
07:52 PM on 06/21/2011
G-d is love and that is that. The Torah was written by men who were inspired by G-d. I am converting to Judaism and have chosen the Reform movement due to their acceptance of gay people.
09:46 AM on 07/16/2011
If you do choose to convert to Judaism, please consider becoming a COMPLETED Jew, one who has discovered and received Jesus Christ.
05:32 PM on 06/19/2011
If anyone is still reading this...

I just read a very interesting article online in the NYT Magazine, written by a gay journalist, called "My Ex-Gay Friend":

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/magazine/my-ex-gay-friend.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

His friend was a gay youth activist, and became a christian and an anti-gay activist. Shows how a biblical fundamentalist (which is what OJs are also) justifies how he can't also continue to be gay, and how it's not necessarily an inborn thing. Might be a hard read for some of you who think it is. I didn't read the comments. Check it out.
09:32 PM on 06/23/2011
i pray God will keep him faithful. Bless his heart!!!!!
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Ralph Boyd
Look, . . right behind you!
10:57 PM on 06/17/2011
There is a reason for all things. If you are Gay it is because God wanted you to be Gay, even though that behavior is prohibited.

Why? I don't know, but apparently to God it's important or else it wouldn't have happened.
11:52 PM on 06/17/2011
God made gay men after prohibiting them to be that way. You're right that you don't know why - because it doesn't make any sense. Not for a good God, anyway. Neither does the idea of the biblical "good" God. What is your reason for holding onto to the need to believe in (I assume) that God?

(BTW, sorry to others that I haven't responded back to for a few days. Stuff happens...)
09:33 PM on 06/23/2011
Whether you feel gay or not, God still loves you. He can help you be chaste and find salvation if you ask.
11:32 AM on 06/16/2011
Gay Orthodox Jew sounds to my ears like an oxymoron. Like a bacon-eating Orthodox Jew. Perhaps I don't really understand what Orthodox means.
04:10 PM on 06/17/2011
Maybe not. Judaism prohibits certain behaviors, not beliefs. There is nothing in Jewish law that bars someone from having a given sexual orientation; there is a bar on acting on it. In other words, there may be many celibate individuals among the gay Orthodox, or at least refraining from anal sex, which is the one specific Toraitic prohibition. Or, to use your analogy, I love bacon - I just haven't had it since high school, which is when I started keeping kosher. You can be a bacon-loving observant Jew, but no, not a bacon-eating one.
12:17 AM on 06/18/2011
OJ does prohibit beliefs. You can't believe that there are other gods, you can't believe that there is no God, you can't believe that God is corporeal, etc. Actually, you can believe those things, but you will get punished for it.

Loving bacon is a lot different than having an inborn desire for anal sex. Not eating bacon, as much as I want to, doesn't violate my inherent nature; not having anal sex would if I was born a gay male. Don't you think that it's rather cruel of God to make a gay that way - that they have to suppress and overcome their nature to find God's favor?

Now, you might say that we all are created with natures that we have to suppress and overcome - like the yetzer hara, the evil inclination, which being gay must be included in. OK - but you don't need God to create this inclination - it can be explained more parsimonially by evolution.

Tendencies that we would now call "evil" had or in some situations still have a survival benefit. Being gay would not necessarily be evil in that way, although being exclusively gay would necessarily be a trait that would naturally select that person out of the gene pool. Being bisexual wouldn't.

, nowadays, gay people could avoid being bi and still have kids - Elton John just did that with his partner David Furnish, proud parents of Zachary Jackson Levon Furnish-John. Not clear yet which one is the
12:19 AM on 06/18/2011
...actual father. (wow - just missed the limit!)
08:40 PM on 06/15/2011
How many people who have had it done have complained about it? There have been millions of the procedure done and you don't see the people who have had the procedure complaining, have you? This is not like female circumcision that has an effect on sexuality. This has no effect on sexuality unless the doctor botched the operation, which has occurred when the doctor has no clue as to what he is doing.
08:42 PM on 06/15/2011
Wrong article, my bad. As for this article, nature is one thing religion another. Sometimes nature and religion go their separate ways. We have no right to tell nature how to do her thing.
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03:39 PM on 06/15/2011
The Psalmist in Psalm 83:4 wrote that the enemies of Israel will indeed call for their total destructio­n and that the memory of the Jewish people might be blotted out. Zechariah 13:8, Revelation 12:13-17, and other prophetic passages foretell of a time during the Tribulatio­n, the Time of Jacob's Trouble, that there will be many Jews killed, up to two out of every three Jews on the Earth. The Lord will intercede to protect the Jewish people from total exterminat­ion however, until this heavenly interventi­on, the Jews will suffer persecutio­n and death as called for on Facebook. Bible prophecy will be fulfilled.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stealthblack6?feature=mhum
09:37 PM on 06/23/2011
and then all the Jews will become believers in Christ. Read Revelation.
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Help me Rhonda......
03:48 PM on 07/15/2011
indeed.... you spoke well.
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LMPE
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02:03 AM on 06/15/2011
Hmm, I've always wondered how the fundy Christians in the US can deal with this. They think that all gays will go to hell, but at the same time consider the gay-friendly Israel the best country in the world (in their words, "the only country ordained by God"). Meanwhile, they consider the brutally homophobic Iran the evilest country in the world.

Then again, religious fundamentalism has nothing to do with being consistent.
09:39 PM on 06/23/2011
i disagree. the only people who will go to hell are those who do not repent of their sins and receive Jesus Christ as savior. lots of gays have already done that. don't be deceived.
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03:56 PM on 07/15/2011
it is irrevelant what people think will happen. no one can say that gays will go to hell they can believe that, but, it is up to the Judger to determine who is worthy of His Kingdom. If not for the Christ, no one would be worthy. and, even at that, it is my opinion none are worthy.... to include myself. most seem to know what God has said about homosexuality but.... again. it is for God to decide. we shall all have to give an accounting. i would say.... Israel has favor with God. i do not doubt that.
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Nana610
Tikkun Olam תיקון עולם
10:50 PM on 06/14/2011
Okay, liberal Israel haters, start hating on this now.
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Religion poisons everything
06:19 PM on 06/15/2011
We don't hate Israel, but occupational policies aren't good and shouldn't be justified.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050801521.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
05:57 PM on 06/14/2011
This shows Israel’s tolerance as we all know in most Muslim countries homosexuality is considered a mental disorder of a crime punishable by death.
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Nana610
Tikkun Olam תיקון עולם
10:45 PM on 06/14/2011
Are you trying to be ironic?
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
06:40 AM on 06/15/2011
No.
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iLdoRight
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05:55 PM on 06/14/2011
If there were real rules from Our Creator as to what a Jew could and could not do, and some people claiming to be Jews changed these rules, what would that say about Jewry or about these who were changing the rules?
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04:01 PM on 07/15/2011
if there were real rules from our Creator as to what a jew could and could not do? there is real rules....read the Book of Leviticus. those rules and laws.... in my opinion, apply to us all. but were given to the jews.
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07:58 PM on 07/15/2011
majority of all the original Christians were jews
05:06 PM on 06/14/2011
This is not about Israel, Orthodox Jews, or Gay people, but bear with me, it's tangentially related.

What is with all of the people on this forum who don't believe in cognitive dissonance? Seriously, I've seen a few posts saying "Orthodox gays is an oxymoron." Like they are Mentos and diet cola or something. Have these people never heard of the human minds amazing ability to hold 2 completely different (sometimes even mutually exclusive) ideas in the head at the same time? Have they never met or heard of a hypocrite? They've never heard of that mega church pastor who would rail against drug users, gays, and "fornicators" all the while doing meth with male prostitutes whenever he could get away? And the fact that this man still believes drugs, gays, and prostitutes are wrong?
Seriously guys there is a wiki article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Just as a note I don't believe that the Gay Orthodox are as bad as (or in any way comparable to) Ted Haggard, it's just that hypocrisy is the easiest example of CD.
11:30 PM on 06/14/2011
If you are a gay person with self respect, you can't belong to a fundamentalist religion which condemns gays, opposes gay marriage and gay rights. However, the effect of childhood religious indoctrination is strong, so some gay people have difficulty renouncing the fundamentalist religion that they were indoctrinated with as children.

No one is arguing that cognitive dissonance doesn't exist, or that you can't find hypocritical religious people. The point is that gay people should renounce fundamentalist religion because it attacks them and inhibits social progress toward equal rights. The point is not that you can't call yourself a gay orthodox jew, but that this is like being a black kl-@n member - it is patently absurd.
04:09 PM on 06/15/2011
"If you are a gay person with self respect..." that's some thing like a TRUE Scotsman, isn't it?

Seriously though, I never said it wasn't absurd, in fact I think it's kind of implied by the fact that all cognitive dissonance is a kind of trick on the mind so that people can not believe what they know to be true.

After re reading both of our posts you may have proven me wrong on one thing: the last part of my post. You see, these Gay Orthodox Jews are probably (by any real standard) acting in a hypocritical fashion and CAN be compared directly to Mr. Haggard.

That said, I do agree that it is sad that minority self hatred is so easily indoctrinated into people. This situation reminds me of the Muslim women that believe they should be veiled, or the little girls who picked the white doll over the black one because it was "better" even when the little girl herself was black.
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04:20 PM on 06/14/2011
* gay soldiers can serve openly in the military, *

America! learn from Israel!
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mlrose529
The world is watching in stupefied horror.
07:55 PM on 06/14/2011
Hell, learn from virtually every other military force in the entire world.
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12:23 PM on 06/15/2011
Not exactly "virtually every other military force." There are about 40 countries that have gays serving openly.
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Help me Rhonda......
04:05 PM on 07/15/2011
i was in the u.s. army. i don't care if someone is gay but.... why the hell do you have to tell me you gay?
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07:34 PM on 07/15/2011
I feel the same way about Christians.