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Midwestern Senators Introduce Alternative To Cutting Ethanol Subsidies

Amy Klobuchar

First Posted: 06/14/11 05:28 PM ET Updated: 08/14/11 06:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of Midwestern senators introduced a bill Tuesday as an alternative to Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-Okla.) proposal to end the current ethanol blender's tax credit and eliminate tariffs on foreign ethanol.

The bipartisan bill, S. 1185, would replace a 45-cent-per-gallon tax credit on ethanol-gasoline blend set to expire at the year's end with a new variable subsidy that fluctuates with the price of crude oil. Backers like Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), one of 15 farm-state senators to support the bill, argue the proposal would keep oil companies from lowering their prices to beat out the competition from ethanol distributors.

"The proposal acts as a safety net to prevent OPEC from manipulating oil prices to kill-off their ethanol rival," said Lugar in a statement. "When oil prices are high, as they are today, corn-based ethanol would not receive subsidy payments."

Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), who cosponsored the legislation with John Thune (R-S.D.), said it would help the country transition to a more sustainable incentives model for domestic renewable fuel production and reduce the nation's deficit by $1 billion.

"Our bipartisan legislation would provide businesses a clear glide-path to move forward and keep the biofuels industry competitive while reducing our debt by a billion dollars this year," said Klobuchar in a statement. "Homegrown energy has played an important part in reducing our dependence on foreign oil, combating rising gas prices and supporting thousands of jobs in Minnesota and throughout our nation."

Under the new proposal, ethanol blenders would receive a maximum of 30 cents per gallon if oil prices fall below $50 a barrel, and no subsidy at all if crude prices are at least $90 a barrel.

Proponents say the legislation, which preserves $6 billion in tax breaks for ethanol producers, will save $2.5 billion. In a nod to deficit hawks, $1 billion of those savings would go toward deficit reduction.

The bill was introduced just before Tuesday's cloture vote in the Senate that killed Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-Okla.) amendment to end ethanol subsides.

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WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of Midwestern senators introduced a bill Tuesday as an alternative to Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-Okla.) proposal to end the current ethanol blender's tax credit and eliminat...
WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of Midwestern senators introduced a bill Tuesday as an alternative to Sen. Tom Coburn's (R-Okla.) proposal to end the current ethanol blender's tax credit and eliminat...
 
 
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12:54 PM on 06/24/2011
While subsidizing ethanol made from corn may not be a good idea I feel that cellulosic ethanol should be subsidized! The cellulosic process can use yard waste, construction waste, non-food crops like switch grass or hemp, waste from crops like corn and rice, land fill items, etc…

Ethanol is important because we can use much of the infrastructure ( pipelines, storage structures, stations ) that already exist for gasoline.
03:43 PM on 06/16/2011
Did y'all not pick up the fact that the ethanol subsidy of 30 cents per gallon would go to the "ethanol blenders", not the ethanol producers. Do y'all not realize that the blenders are the oil companies?
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olerealist
retired trial attorney; former member of VA abd Wa
03:31 PM on 06/16/2011
I do not buy the argument of Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, that the repeal of the subsidies would create any significant unemployment. The workers whose jobs might terminate do not fit the profile of currently unemployed citizens.

But the repeal should not go in effect too abruptly. I would expect that a reasonable rather brief delay should be included so as to allow for adjustments to be made in the industry.

Congress members are prone to saying “reduce the fed deficit at all costs but NOT IN MY BACKYARD.”
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Matt Herren
"Human action is purposeful behavior."
09:35 PM on 06/15/2011
Yes... because keeping oil companies from lowering their prices is something we must do at all costs....
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Marlyn
If I'm wrong, let me know.
08:04 PM on 06/15/2011
Say NO to ethanol.
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pewty
Psych RN, & wisenheimer
07:09 PM on 06/16/2011
Say NO to your face.
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gtoya1331
I can't understand it FOR you
04:08 PM on 06/15/2011
can you say chickenshyt?
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
01:56 PM on 06/15/2011
How about subsidizing something other than Corn for use with ethanol?

I seem to remember some types of grass that can be used and they produce more than one crop in a growing season.
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HeartT
Author, OUTSIDE CHILD, New Orleans
03:15 PM on 06/15/2011
Yes, how about subsidizing switch grass and other waste for ethonol. These are great sources. We have to come up with energy alternatives. The oil companies don't want that, however, and are trying to cut off ethonol subsidies. Before getting down with this notion, investigate and you'll learn that there are sources other than corn that can produce ethonol. And you will find out that oil is a finite resource. Hopefully, as part of an informed public, voters will realize that it makes economic sense to subsidize ethonol and other biofuel research and implementation rather than drill baby drill. Seems the Republicans are counting on the public remaining un-informed.
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
03:53 PM on 06/15/2011
Yea, I got it.

And I put the switch grass forward off the top of my head, so I hope the tone that sounded like I didn't know what I was talking about was a misread on my part.

I am fully ready to head to alternatives, but the carrot on a string game the Big Oil companies play keep real alternative just out of reach. As soon as we get serious, they drop the price just long enough to break viable programs and then gig us again.
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French Toast
MAPLE SYRUP
09:23 PM on 06/15/2011
Know what's weird? Corn growers could still get ethanol subsidies. They could harvest the ears for food and the stalk is totally the right stuff for cellulosic ethanol.
poppie0144
use our natural gas
01:40 PM on 06/15/2011
they need to cut it completely off.all it does is cost us in every way use food for food.and les drill more oil and gas in this country.
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pewty
Psych RN, & wisenheimer
07:13 PM on 06/16/2011
You are SO right!!! Oil and coal are the only answers. There is plenty for all and it will get cheaper in the future!!!! The Arabs are our friends!! And removing the tops off of those ugly mountains is good for the ecology......................................Youve got a mind like a beartrap.....rusted shut.
01:27 PM on 06/15/2011
Follow the money people. Ethanol is 50% as efficient as oil therefore you have by twice the amount for the same bang. Thats not really saving us anything. You can see those corn states were all sharpening their knives at Coburns proposal. It never had a chance of passing, as corn prices are tripple what they were just 4 short years ago.
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journalisk
01:00 PM on 06/15/2011
Oil poses an incredible state of affairs to our nation, and the world. We're talking about thousands of years of history and human evolution down the drain: environmentalists predict that we have less than fifty years before we're facing a definite hell on earth, and far less time to turn the situation around. Do you really expect us to allow a few greedy rich men to let all of our collective hard work go down the drain? BLACK GOLD is another form of corruption, and politicians who want to remove greener energy are clearly corrupt. It became a state of affairs during the age of industrialization; corruption was a state of affairs when it brought down Rome's agrarian state: as we move into the global informational age, it is imperative that we solve these riddles from the past immediately, and learn about right government and our symbiotic relationship with the earth, before we've destroyed our chances to enjoy both and move into the next age.
12:24 PM on 06/15/2011
To grow corn we need time. Price for oil is changing everyday.

Why we need subsidize ethanol-disaster as for economy, as for environment, if even Al Gore admit it was his mistake for political reason?
01:13 PM on 06/15/2011
Corn is food not fuel. Time to move beyound corn to cellulosic ethanol from the cellulose in wood fibers. The technology exists now and some pioneers say the best source is available in the effluent stream from wastewater treatment plants ( as in your local sewage outfall filter ) . This method would help lower the cost of waste water treatment because the cellulose gathered from the filtration would become quite valuable as the feedstock for a cellulosic ethanol fuel plant - where is Obama on this one - oh that's right he's getting relected and needs Oil/Gas money to run for president of the rich class in America - vote the slug out along with all the incumbent congress if you want real change.
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pewty
Psych RN, & wisenheimer
07:14 PM on 06/16/2011
Check out this company......Joules Unlimited.........
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doubleB
12:19 PM on 06/15/2011
As much as I hate corn-based ethanol and the environmental destruction it causes, this is an interesting idea. Price uncertainty is a huge problem, is is probably one of the reasons we've gone 3 decades since our first oil crisis without transitioning. The thing is, they need to apply this concept to batteries though... i.e. something that can eventually do some good and help the environment. Unlike corn-based ethanol, which is a complete and total friggin boondoggle.
01:16 PM on 06/15/2011
Corn is food - people are starving around the world. Producing fuel for any purpose from corn is immoral. Time to move to cellulosic ethanol. Alcohol fuel from wood fiber. Look up Q-teros and see what they are working on - no wasted resources with their process.
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doubleB
04:02 PM on 06/15/2011
Brilliant... let's get rid of person's "pet" technology, and subsidize someone else's. We shouldn't be subsidizing anything at all... we should be focusing on (i.e. taxing) the problem, not creating more. If anything should be subsidized... and that's a big IF, it should be batteries, which enable people to chose where they get their energy. That way we don't lock ourselves into something that may or may not be green.
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mdlawyer2
06:54 PM on 06/15/2011
Corn as food pays less than corn as fuel. As with just about all problems, it's all about the money.
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CCverve
And where are those Iraqi Oil Revenues again?
12:02 PM on 06/15/2011
Foodstock Subsidies? That sounds like a Socialism don't it!! This is a tough one for you (R) boys to spin
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11:55 AM on 06/15/2011
A VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT IS A VOTE FOR $10 GAS and $10 CORN PRICES...
09:59 PM on 06/15/2011
yea your right REX we need more Rep. so they can vote thereself more raises more health care for them and take away S.S. Medcare and put us more in debt. It was Bush and his pals that put in is mess with credit /default swaps sendin moneyto Iraq( so much that they didnot count it but weight it{put a 100 bill in your hand they sent 360 TONS of it and now say they don't know where it went}) yea we need 8 more yrs of that
01:05 PM on 06/16/2011
A VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS IS A VOTE FOR MEDICARE VOUCHERS ($15,000 LAST I HEARD), SOCIAL SECURITY IS AT STAKE, PLANNED PARENTHOOD DENIED FUNDS, ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES DOWN THE DRAIN, UNIONS BUSTED WHILE CORPORATIONS "personhood" PROMOTED, WARS THRU LIES AND DECEPTIONS, STIMULUS CHECKS WRITTEN WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, CHEATING WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS WITH THEIR 'other wives", AND GAS FOR $10 AND $10 CORN PRICES! Just in case you're hard of hearing.
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11:54 AM on 06/15/2011
AMY KLOBUCHAR and all the MIDWEST SENATORS want AMERICANS TO STARVE and to PAY FOR HIGHER FOOD COSTS...VOTE THOSE BUMS OUT OF OFFICE....